Cometh the Moment, Cometh the Man...

Discussion in 'Columns' started by Chimbo!, Feb 11, 2007.

  • by Chimbo!, Feb 11, 2007 at 4:42 PM
  • Chimbo!

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    Whilst many of us are distracted by the dreary and abject displays, the pathetic excuses and persistent false hope we forget that our club has come to a crucial moment in its attempt to revive the glory, glory era.

    The path to success is never a smooth one, just ask Alex Ferguson. Before Manchester United's complete dominance in English football during the 1990s Ferguson was one game away from the sack in 1989 when had he lost in the FA Cup 3rd Round the future of Manchester United would have been very different. They were in the relegation zone at the time but they surged up the table to 11th that season and won the FA Cup. You might be wondering what the point of the story is but even the best do not achieve what they set out to do straight away, it takes years of dedication and vision and there are invaraibly hiccups along the way.

    I can not understand our bombardment of criticism at Martin Jol when he has transformed our club from mediocrity to an ambitious and demanding football club. Two years ago we would have been happy wiht a mid-table position and a couple of good cup runs. Now we boo the team if that is all we achieve. We finished 14th almost 3 seasons ago and had an ageing squad of average foreigners. Our squad now boasts 6 England internationals and some of the brightest English talent in the country. When was the last time we had players of the calibre of Lennon, King, Dawson and Defoe in the same team. The transformation undertaken by Jol is a miracle and we should support him through thick and thin.

    No one criticises Keith Burkinshaw for some disappointing league positions when he had the likes of Hoddle, Ardiles, Roberts and Villa in his side. Even the great Bill Nicholson did not consistenly succeed in the league. I feel a sense of perspective is needed; we have to wait and see. The mark of a great man is when he can face adversity and defeat it. Martin Jol is the man to do that; he will achieve success with us. Great managers build their success on the foundations of past failures; we are a young side that will learn from its mistakes and become a force in English football.

    A bit of optimism is all us fans need to have.
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Discussion in 'Columns' started by Chimbo!, Feb 11, 2007.

  1. devonte01

    Maybe when you realise that we live in a democratic society and not under dictatorship, you will understand my views a little better
  2. ridouche
    Ahh, you wasting your time, mate, he is Narcissistic! bit like
    miss Piggy from the muppets. I better dive now...
  3. davidmatzdorf
    You have completely ignored - or perhaps completely missed - my point, which has nothing to do with dictatorship/democracy (and I would disagree with your suggestion that we "live in a democratic society", but then I'm an old anarchist at heart...).

    If anything, my point is quite far down the extreme-democratic line.

    Of course everyone is entitled to their opinion. No one ever argues otherwise. So why do people keep using "everyone has a right to an opinion" as a counter-argument, whenever someone says that someone else's argument is ill-thought-out or nonsensical. It isn't an argument against this - it's a completely irrelevant comment in the context.

    The only other explanation I can think of for this is that what people are really trying to say is "everyone's opinion is as good as everyone else's". Which is self-evidently ridiculous. Some opinions are consistent, logical and well-thought-out and some are just aberrations and make no sense at all.

    All opinions are not created equal. But that is completely different than saying that people do not have a right to have their crazy opinions. Which I never say. Ever. Because it's wrong.

    "Everyone has a right to their opinion" is a comment about free speech, which is not being challenged.

    "Everyone's opinion is as good as everyone else's" is just a way to kill discussion, because if it were true, there would be no point in having a debate at all.

    And that is my point.
  4. 2bearis2do
    All seems a long time ago this..
    5 wins on the trot and no one is complaining.
    Despite the articles belieef that there was a Jol Out brigade, I cant recollect reading anyone on this site that said get Jol out. Maybe the odd idiot but a small tiny minority. what people were doing was questioning his tactics and team selection. That my frirnd is evry Spurs fans perrogative. But I think if you took a poll at the time of our dip in form (because that is all it was) Then you would haave had a 90+% poll in support of BMJ and what he is trying to do for the great THFC.

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