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Crystal Palace vs Tottenham Hotspur - Match Thread

Shadydan

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First off i'm pleased we got the win and 3 points that were deserved.

BUT!!

The tempo from some our players was shocking. I see Dier getting some praise, but Sanchez and Dier are to blame a lot for this, the amount of times they had the ball at their feet and just slowed the game to a standstill was so frustrating. Countless times I quick pass or one two was on with a CM and they just chose to go backwards or play it to themselves, it was bizarre, with no drive to actually push forward themselves..... Maybe i'm making this all up, but it was really starting to frustrate me.

I'm not quite sure if Wanyama is broken since his injury, but please get up to speed soon. Woeful few games for us now.

Why Lamela was taken off when Eriksen and Ali were worse than him was disappointing from Poch. Lamela wasn't having the best game, but Eriksen was woeful by his standards, and Dele didn't really do anything all game. Yet the two favourites stay on, they should have both been replaced around the 65 mark for Son and Lucas.

All in all these away games at teams near the bottom, with the season coming to an end will always be tough. We do need to become more lethal in front of goal though as we seem to enjoy putting so much pressure on ourselves.

Big call..... I truly believe Foyth will be the better CB out of him and Sanchez. I know Sanchez gets a lot of praise on here and i think he has done well, but the superlatives he receives are way over the top.

Eriksen took the corner that resulted in the goal so not such a bad decision.
 

Vincent30

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Eriksen took the corner that resulted in the goal so not such a bad decision.

Come on, that's really not a valid argument against Eriksen being terrible today. Most people also comment on how they would rather he wouldn't take corners as he isn't particularly great at them.

Obviously we won't know the result if Lamela stayed on with Lucas and Son. But it was extremely harsh him being subbed, when Eriksen and Dele offered little and were wasteful all game. Prior to the goal.
 

class of 62

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He put Dembele on his arse which you don't see too often. and never from a bean pole.
Fair play.. Your right..dembele on his backside is something of an anomaly. .but we won which seems to piss off of this forum somehow?.. Ugly win is still a win and something that tells you this Tottenham side has some bollocks...... And I've seen plenty without believe me.
 

Shadydan

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Come on, that's really not a valid argument against Eriksen being terrible today. Most people also comment on how they would rather he wouldn't take corners as he isn't particularly great at them.

Obviously we won't know the result if Lamela stayed on with Lucas and Son. But it was extremely harsh him being subbed, when Eriksen and Dele offered little and were wasteful all game. Prior to the goal.

Yeah but look, when Eriksen doesn't play we play shit regardless, him coming off wouldn't have improved our performance in fact we would have probably been worse and we most probably wouldn't have won. It doesn't make much sense to me saying that someone should have been subbed when they were directly involved in the winner, just screams of unnecessary moaning to me.
 

Diarmuid

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Could be a huge three points.. I can't recall ever seeing kane as poor as he was in the first half.. some man though ... Aurier needs some serious work..
 

Japhet

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Could be a huge three points.. I can't recall ever seeing kane as poor as he was in the first half.. some man though ... Aurier needs some serious work..

Aurier was poor and has had dogs abuse. His only redemption was a goal saving tackle.
Kane was poor but is still the hero. His redemption was to nod in a sitter.
Funny old game as Greavsie would say.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Aurier was poor and has had dogs abuse. His only redemption was a goal saving tackle.
Kane was poor but is still the hero. His redemption was to nod in a sitter.
Funny old game as Greavsie would say.

I'd suggest HK has a lot more goodwill in the bank that Serge. Who, to be honest, hasn't really done anything of positive significance. Occasional glimpses and I'm sure there' a player in there. But its not surprising he is getting stick. Patience at this stage if the season is in low supply.
 

Monkey boy

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Aurier was poor and has had dogs abuse. His only redemption was a goal saving tackle.
Kane was poor but is still the hero. His redemption was to nod in a sitter.
Funny old game as Greavsie would say.

Come on, surely you can see the problem with this post??
 

Sweetsman

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It pleases me thinking how crap Liverpool fans will feel at the end of our game. Probably were adding (trying) up how far ahead of us the we’re going to be
They are still moaning across forums about Spurs players diving. They're like a herd of idiotic bovines moving from pasture to pasture, filling each one with bullshit.
 

Diarmuid

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Aurier was poor and has had dogs abuse. His only redemption was a goal saving tackle.
Kane was poor but is still the hero. His redemption was to nod in a sitter.
Funny old game as Greavsie would say.
Ah it was a good header tbf.
 

Ionman34

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Again we are FC Barcelona when it comes to creating chances but then FC Banterlona in front of goal.

Some lessons need to be learned from this or it will cost us down the line.
The most profligate in front of goal today was Kane. Finish just one of those early sitters and the game dynamic changes completely. They have to break their lines, they have to find a way back into the game.

The longer it went on, the more resolute they became in their defending. Christ, at times their farthest forward player was 15 yards inside their own half!

There was nothing wrong with our attacking guile, nothing wrong with our movement of the ball or our probing from different quarters. They defended with 10 and we still carved out clear chances throughout the match. The absolute Golden chances fell to the guy you’d put your house on to bury them.

But he didn’t until the death.

The only lesson to be learnt from today is that Kane is human and can have an off day from 6 yards, same as everyone else.
 

smallsnc

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My problem with the fullbacks today and in many other games is that almost every time they are receiving the ball in the final third to feet, and stationary at that, when for me they should be running onto/ahead of the ball and attacking all that space. Too many footballers in general though who just cant do that and need it to feet. Attack the space and so with momentum and it would make such a difference.

To be fair Aurier made some run in behind and the passes were not hit with enough pace or accurate enough to get in behind the defense.
 

Janice

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Aurier not good enough, not much signs of improving

He's an athlete alright, but no brains and all brawn final ball not great, but I'm sure he can improve that aspect

Friend, didn't rate him called bluff on 3 or 4 penalty shouts? Strong ones too

If we'd got the early penalty against Davies the match might have been comfy

Ok we missed some sitters but that was a champions elect type finish to the game from us
 

Yakflange

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... But its not surprising he is getting stick. Patience at this stage if the season is in low supply.

Patience is perennially in low supply, or non-existent, not only now.

Unfortunately it isn't surprising that he's getting stick, given we love having someone to hate, but it is rather sad.

He's in a new country, a new league and arrived a few games in to the season with no pre-season. Since then he's had only 10 or so games in the league. He's still young enough to be learning.

How often do you see a player have an average first season then go on to be much better in their second or third seasons?

Give the guy a break.
 

TheHoddleWaddle

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Patience is perennially in low supply, or non-existent, not only now.

Unfortunately it isn't surprising that he's getting stick, given we love having someone to hate, but it is rather sad.

He's in a new country, a new league and arrived a few games in to the season with no pre-season. Since then he's had only 10 or so games in the league. He's still young enough to be learning.

How often do you see a player have an average first season then go on to be much better in their second or third seasons?

Give the guy a break.

I agree for the most part. But I also get the frustration. Because he's doing stupid things (throw ins / crazy challenges) that a pre season or a run of games wouldn't make too much difference.

Perhaps he'll be a different player next season but right now, he's a sub at best. Ive seen nothing he offers more positively than trippier, or KWP for that matter. The latter looks quicker to me anyway, which is what a lot of fans think serge is picked for. He looks clumsy and lacks composure. Given that under pochetino's system, the wing backs are of huge tactical importance for width in both attack and defence, we need a serge at full capacity, especially at this stage of the season where marginal gains could mean the difference between champs league or not.
 

Archibald&Crooks

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Just seen a stat saying we're the only team in the country, (or is that the Premier League) that's yet to lose a game this year.

From some of the reactions during (and after) the game you'd have thought it was the other way around :D

Some teams fans don't react to a defeat very well. We take offence when we win :woot:

We're like the monk in The Da Vinci Code :nailbiting:
 

Dougal

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Just seen a stat saying we're the only team in the country, (or is that the Premier League) that's yet to lose a game this year.

From some of the reactions during (and after) the game you'd have thought it was the other way around :D

Some teams fans don't react to a defeat very well. We take offence when we win :woot:

We're like the monk in The Da Vinci Code :nailbiting:
You can’t beat a good self flagellation.
 

Yakflange

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I agree for the most part. But I also get the frustration. Because he's doing stupid things (throw ins / crazy challenges) that a pre season or a run of games wouldn't make too much difference.

Perhaps he'll be a different player next season but right now, he's a sub at best. Ive seen nothing he offers more positively than trippier, or KWP for that matter. The latter looks quicker to me anyway, which is what a lot of fans think serge is picked for. He looks clumsy and lacks composure. Given that under pochetino's system, the wing backs are of huge tactical importance for width in both attack and defence, we need a serge at full capacity, especially at this stage of the season where marginal gains could mean the difference between champs league or not.

Fair enough points there - he could definitely do better, especially with respect to occasional crazy decisions, but he doesn't deserve the level of criticism he has been getting.

Trippier is certainly ahead of him, but I don't think we can judge KWP yet with no game time.

Not sure how his pace compares to KWP, but it's certainly an asset Aurier has that Trippier doesn't.
 
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