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Crystal Palace Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

worcestersauce

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Just watched motd and on Kane's goal Delaney stood on the six yard line looked back over his shoulder three times making sure Kane was safe, he was, he was covered by another defender who was safely goal side of Kane so as the ball came in to Delaney he set himself to head it away safety and bang Harry Kane is in front of him nodding it in, his reaction was a picture.
Anyone wants to know what makes Harry a great striker just watch that.
 

Indisguise

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Have to be honest here people, there are very few regulars on here that haven't spouted bollocks at some point. Some of the holier than though comments I'm seeing here are just as ridiculous as some of the match day comments that get spluttered out week after week. I'm seeing at least two people posting righteous comments who really haven't got any business doing so because they're just as likely to post bollocks as the match thread regulars. No reasonable person wants to read unreasonable, unrealistic, ill thought out shit, but it does happen - it's a football supporters forum - so let's not get too indignant, eh.
 

degoose

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i was so close with my score yesterday and i even put a bet on for 2-1 and then Chadli goes and fucks me over by scoring a goal (lovely goal though)

Bastard :(
 

Mr Pink

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To be fair though, his comments were complimentary, praising the players, talking about their heart and not in any way trying to take credit for any of it. I think he's learnt something about how to do media, might even make him a better manager.

The comment he made there was he did something like that as a kid against people who didn't know how to play but never in the premier league - he was genuinely full of respect and praise.

He made mistakes with us and Villa but when someone learns and moves on, I'd give the benefit of the doubt every time.

Best media performance I've seen from him in a while. Seemed to have genuinely changed in himself.

Fair play if that was the case. To be honest I wasn't exactly sober and wasn't listening intently just heard him starting to speak and thought here we go!

My mistake.
 

Mr Pink

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His whole point was self-mocking and was that he scored it as a a schoolboy against "people who can't play football", therefore Alli's was brilliant and his meant nothing.

You weren't even listening because of your prejudice. You usually talk sense, but this is just silly.

No prejudice whatsoever. Just a mistake because I wasn't exactly sober.

Saw it again this morning and I agree it was self mocking. I never really got involved in the whole Sherwood debate if I'm honest, it got boring very quickly IMO.
 

KILLA_SIN

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To be fair though, his comments were complimentary, praising the players, talking about their heart and not in any way trying to take credit for any of it. I think he's learnt something about how to do media, might even make him a better manager.

The comment he made there was he did something like that as a kid against people who didn't know how to play but never in the premier league - he was genuinely full of respect and praise.

He made mistakes with us and Villa but when someone learns and moves on, I'd give the benefit of the doubt every time.

Best media performance I've seen from him in a while. Seemed to have genuinely changed in himself.

He seemed genuinely quite happy about us wining maybe he wants his job back.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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We witness GREAT team spirit.

We witness GREAT tactical changes by Poch.

We witness a GREAT comeback.

We witness a GREAT (and vital) result.

We witness 3 GREAT goals.

We witness 1 truly world class goal.

We witness our team going as close to top position, as it is to 5th position.

Yet still, somehow, we witness fallings out on Spurs Community. I know it's impossible for everyone to get along, but can't people just enjoy the things that were witnessed yesterday? :(
 
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Woodyy

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Sherwood was actually quite good on MOTD.

Agreed, I know he wasn't the best manager but I'm still surprised by how much stick he gets..

He played for the club for 4 years and had a non player role at the club for 8 years, you'd think he'd deserve a bit of respect..
 

Bus-Conductor

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Apart from a very small, but repetitive minority of our fans, most have felt that Alli's been playing well these last few weeks. Yes the occasional game where he's drifted, or failed to to properly impose himself, but also the occasional game where he's done something special, or been the difference, and between them a whole bunch of decent performances. I look to see some hint of your criticism amongst fellow fans, from the media, in his statistics, anywhere, and can't find it, only thing is he's not Jenas I guess, or Bentaleb, or Lamela... poor boy!

I guess if we were living in the 3rd century BC and were posting on Earth Community you'd be giving Pythagorus one of your "repetitive minority" lectures for telling you the earth's round. "But Pythagorus the Athens Herald did a poll, and everyone says it's flat".

Alli is clearly a talented boy. Even more impressive than the individual moments of quality he has provided is that at his age he has the personality and character to try them - and I am not damning him with faint praise here, I think that personality and character is what is separating him from many other talented young footballers and a quality I always look for in young players because without that they rarely make it to the top - the personality and character to impose himself on a game even when not playing well. But just because he has produced goals and occasional other "moments" that doesn't mean when he has performed badly in other areas we look away or call it something different.

This is just a related branch of the same "problem" tree we had with Chadli most of last year. Chadli continually produces end product but he doesn't press well, he's mentally and physically lazy without the ball. There's a compromise. I think our best two performances (and Pochettino agreed with me on one of them) were without Chadli in the side, yet despite citing Arsenal as our best performance under him - a game without Chadli - Pochettino kept picking him and not playing that same side or tactical application.

I think there is a similar but slightly different compromise at the moment - Alli isn't mentally or physically as lazy as Chadli but he's not - yet anyway - developed the qualities to play as a CM in a CM2 system (unless you want to ignore all the evidence and just look at score lines) that requires both to be dynamic, metronomic, quick pressing and transitioning. All I (and maybe a few others) are saying is if we want to manage the compromise maybe a different tactical application could be applied. A CM3 allows Alli more freedom to "bomb on" and provide those moments without compromising midfield control.

Mourinho had to pair Lampard and Fabregas with world class footballing busy ****s to accommodate their compromise (and they were both more talented, dynamic, metronomic and experienced than Alli is right now)

If you don't tactically manage compromise, I think there is a danger of Real Madrid syndrome. You end up with a bunch of talented individuals who as a group don't reach full potential.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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I can pretty much guarantee that a thread without the bollocks would be much more popular and enjoyable. Generally speaking, most people post in the match thread using a sensible and measured manner, even in the heat of the moment but there seems to be a hardcore element who use the kind of thing your saying as an excuse to perpetrate idiocy and agenda on a grand scale, this is obvious because when the 'heat of the moment' is over, they still defend a position, such as todays winning gem…."Loris is a liability".

Another example today is the DellyAlly affair, to sub or not to sub………whichever way you leaned (and many wanted him subbed but i'd bet just as many didn't but couldn't be arsed to get involved), having that opinion is fine, but when you then call into question the manager as if you know better or in a way that makes it seem your opinion is correct and final, then some people will get the itch. The cockyness of certainty being blown out of the water, its too tempting to pass……..I'll say it again, posting bollocks and then hiding behind the claim that the people knocking you are using 'hindsight' is poor. Its poor for many reasons including because its the same people posting said bollocks week in week out. Its poor because sometimes, not always but sometimes, its brought up in a jesty, jokey way and its poor because effectively you're saying you can say what you like with no comebacks. And thats definitely bullshit right there.

For me its not just the offering up of onions, its the way they are offered that can create friction. In a big way. Especially when the same perps make the same stupid comments week in, week out. There's one guy who shall remain unnamed, who pretty much weekly tells everyone we're not good enough to come back from a goal down (we've done it more times than any other team this season IIRC) or he can't see us scoring one, let alone two (we scored four). Weekly. Every fucking week. So when is this guy going to learn? Is he not going to think to himself, hang on a minute……..I keep on getting this wrong, maybe I should just slightly not be so certain, maybe I don't know it all……..Maybe I should stop making myself look like a complete mug………..Seriously, why is it some people can't show a little humility now and again. Being right on a football forum isn't important and it doesn't mean people reading it will nod and go yeah, hes right, must have a big knob…….Yet it must do.

I have no idea where i'm going with all this its just a random collection of thoughts and i'm sure in several places i've talked like a fluffyminge……..someone with some hindsight will shoot me down. I have no problem with that, i'll still retain my masculinity, I wont see it as a slight on my manhood and i'll still have a twelve inch tallywhacker…………A real life one not a philosophical one :p

EDIT: Oh and nervous tension? Sorry but I can't see that. Perhaps i'm being harsh or i'm very very wrong but i'm not having that. From having the initial reaction "ooooh fucks sake Spurs" to formulating the thought, to posting it in here must take a certain amount of time. Time enough (at the very least) to have the opportunity to stop and think about what you're saying. Its a (relatively) long time between thinking Rose is a **** to posting it.

Perhaps do the next PL match thread in braille?
 

Sweech

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Weren't there people saying CP would overtake us this year?

Absolute hilarious mugs then and even more so now.
 

Sweech

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Deloufeu for lamela anyone?
Can't think of a player that least fits what we do here.

Deulofeu doesn't defend or press at all. It's no surprise why Everton's defensive record is so horrendous.

It's also one of Lamelas best traits.
 
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TheChosenOne

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Chadli's goal on Saturday reminded me once again of Martín Chivers who scored quite a few like that over 40 years ago.
 
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