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Daily Mirror- Joe Lewis will sell the club....if he gets £1BILLION.

whitesocks

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If we were worth £1bil then, and have added a £1bil stadium/training complex and have a squad worth a £1bil now...
Given our squad was hardly worthless in 2014 and we had bought land for the stadium/got planning permission/archway burnt down... current worth £2.5bil? Is that reasonable?

Or is worth calculated on the profit generated and then multiply by 20? 5% interest. Is that considered a reasonable return?
 

Shadydan

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If we were worth £1bil then, and have added a £1bil stadium/training complex and have a squad worth a £1bil now...
Given our squad was hardly worthless in 2014 and we had bought land for the stadium/got planning permission/archway burnt down... current worth £2.5bil? Is that reasonable?

Or is worth calculated on the profit generated and then multiply by 20? 5% interest. Is that considered a reasonable return?

We weren't worth £1B then, that's, what JL wanted.
 

absolute bobbins

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Feb 12, 2013
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KPMG thinks that as of January the club has an enterprise value (based on profitability, social media popularity, sporting potential, broadcasting rights, stadium ownership) of between €1.61 billion and and €1.74 billion (around 3 times as much as West Ham) and there has been a 110% increase over the last three years.

Obviously, that is still a very different to what it would cost for ENIC to want out. Which I suspect would be over €2 billion now.

https://www.footballbenchmark.com/d..._Football Clubs Valuation report_2019_WEB.pdf if you're interested
 

hellava_tough

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There was a point over the last 18 months where I thought Joe and Danny-boy could have potentially sold up, but I doubt they'd do so now.

For the first time ever, we have the chance to knuckle down and establish ourselves as an 'elite-level' club. The infrastructure is now in place and the revenue streams are incredibly healthy, and increasing every season. In that regard, we're richer than Juventus just to put it in perspective.

With the right management on the pitch and off, Levy and Lewis could quite easily add another £500m to the value of the club over the next 5 years.

So unless a crazy bid comes in and I would imagine they'll just hold tight and continue to grow.
 

coys200

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I don’t see that much upside for a potential buyer unless it’s as a play thing. It’s not like Chelsea city or even Newcastle now where there’s massive room for growth. At £1.5-2bn it’s a massive risk imo we aren’t a global brand like United or Liverpool. If the TV deal were to go tits up who knows what we’d be worth. On the other side I guess there’s still room to make us into serial winners and grow a global brand. Also there’s the possible NFL franchise. At least we know if it ever happens it will be serious player not someone that just had to cobble together £50m.
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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The more we're worth the less likely anyone is to buy us.

There's not much in it for an investor, buying a club for £2 billion quid. There's not much room for growth or a return on the investment.
As for a mega rich business person looking for a new toy, why spend £2b on a club then another half a billion on the squad when they can just buy a Newcastle or west ham for £300m and start there.
 

ComfortablyNumb

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I don’t see that much upside for a potential buyer unless it’s as a play thing. It’s not like Chelsea city or even Newcastle now where there’s massive room for growth. At £1.5-2bn it’s a massive risk imo we aren’t a global brand like United or Liverpool. If the TV deal were to go tits up who knows what we’d be worth. On the other side I guess there’s still room to make us into serial winners and grow a global brand. Also there’s the possible NFL franchise. At least we know if it ever happens it will be serious player not someone that just had to cobble together £50m.
We probably wouldn’t attract someone looking to buy at x and sell at 10x in seven years time. It’ll be a genuine investor, looking for a fairly safe way of investing a couple of billions and getting a better return than government bonds, or someone looking to rehabilitate a reputation (certain sovereign funds) or someone looking to ‘launder’ their money (oligarchs and suchlike).
 

coys200

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If you a want a play thing and a club that can seriously challenge for titles and CL we are the best bet. We probably only need £200m net to be serious contenders. What other serious options does a buyer have. Newcastle looks done Villa owners are very wealthy. West Ham don’t even own a stadium. Then you have a sleeping giant like Leeds. Actually always thought Palace had huge potential with all of south London as a catchment. But aren’t that many options that don’t involve a new stadium and £750k on a squad.
 

buckley

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So you have an expert business man who has invested over £1billion on the training ground and stadium and other properties and he is going to tell all and sundry that he will accept less than what he has already invested all I can say is "I don't think so " .
I know that there is a bank loan outstanding but as a complete know nothing it still makes me feel this figure is way below real value and where does Levy figure in this as he owns a sizeable piece of the action and it seems like Lewis and Levy are not the sort of people to make their dealings public knowledge.
 

RichieS

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So you have an expert business man who has invested over £1billion on the training ground and stadium and other properties and he is going to tell all and sundry that he will accept less than what he has already invested all I can say is "I don't think so " .
I know that there is a bank loan outstanding but as a complete know nothing it still makes me feel this figure is way below real value and where does Levy figure in this as he owns a sizeable piece of the action and it seems like Lewis and Levy are not the sort of people to make their dealings public knowledge.
This thread was started four-and-a-half years ago...
 

Lilbaz

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So you have an expert business man who has invested over £1billion on the training ground and stadium and other properties and he is going to tell all and sundry that he will accept less than what he has already invested all I can say is "I don't think so " .
I know that there is a bank loan outstanding but as a complete know nothing it still makes me feel this figure is way below real value and where does Levy figure in this as he owns a sizeable piece of the action and it seems like Lewis and Levy are not the sort of people to make their dealings public knowledge.

Did you see when this thread was started?
 

Dillspur

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So you have an expert business man who has invested over £1billion on the training ground and stadium and other properties and he is going to tell all and sundry that he will accept less than what he has already invested all I can say is "I don't think so " .
I know that there is a bank loan outstanding but as a complete know nothing it still makes me feel this figure is way below real value and where does Levy figure in this as he owns a sizeable piece of the action and it seems like Lewis and Levy are not the sort of people to make their dealings public knowledge.

Just to correct you, he hasn't invested anything into the training ground or stadium, everything is paid for by the clubs revenue. The only real investment he made was for the initial purchase of the club.
 

Lighty64

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Just to correct you, he hasn't invested anything into the training ground or stadium, everything is paid for by the clubs revenue. The only real investment he made was for the initial purchase of the club.

and as owners they have re-invested it. yes it would of brilliant if they had invested in more wages and better players (funny we are in a CL Final). the only other money JL has thrown our way was 50m towards the stadium build.
 

Dillspur

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May 18, 2004
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and as owners they have re-invested it. yes it would of brilliant if they had invested in more wages and better players (funny we are in a CL Final). the only other money JL has thrown our way was 50m towards the stadium build.

Not sure what you mean in bold? What did they re-invest?

I'm sure that 50m was actually just a low intrest loan
 
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