Dani Ceballos

[George94]

looks a prospect but does any young spaniard ever want to leave Real Madrid for the prem?

VDV ?

 

[daryl hannah]

You do realise him and De Bruyne play in different positions yeah? Ceballos isn't an Eriksen or a player you'd be grading on how many assists he got, he's a CM.
Not sure if you googled wrong video, he's got the right amount of pace for a CM to carry the ball past players and fantastic technical ability, comparing him to one of the best players in the world at 21 is a bit harsh.

I'd counter that by saying you do realise de bruyne played 28 games at CM last season....

Edit: Scoring 6 and assisting 10

 

[fortworthspur]

VDV ?

he's dutch and he wasnt young when he came to us.

 

[0-Tibsy-0]

VDV ?

He was neither Spanish, or particularly young...

 

[T-Love92]

VDV ?

VdV was 27 and is dutch

 

[St José Dominguez]

I'd counter that by saying you do realise de bruyne played 28 games at CM last season....

Edit: Scoring 6 and assisting 10

It's a completely different role though.
There's more to creating than whipping a cross in and stats, (not comparing him to either of these geniuses) but like Xavi used to and Modric does. Assist the assist, we have no one in our team who has that ability.
Wouldn't worry cos can't see any chance Madrid sell him fully, it'll be a loan or sold with a buy back option.

 

[yankspurs]

Toby, Dembele, Sissoko, Nkoudou, Janssen & Llorente should all be up for sale IMO and the club should make a CM (Ceballos I'd snap your hand off for), WF (Zaha or Martial), another understudy CM (ideally Grealish, possibly Cook) and a central defender (Pavard or De Ligt) to replace them.

I do think replacing Dembele is a bigger urgency than replacing Alderweireld, I make Toby's replacement 4th on our list of priorities should we make any moves at all over the next week or so.

I still can't get my head around no deals being struck for any of our out players. They play for a top 3 team in the Prem surely there's clubs out there they'd be huge for this season

Grealish is not a CM

 

[George94]

looks a prospect but does any young spaniard ever want to leave Real Madrid for the prem?

he's dutch and he wasnt young when he came to us.

He was neither Spanish, or particularly young...

VdV was 27 and is dutch

Ah, somehow completely missed this part

As you were...

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Grealish is not a CM

Dier wasn't a DM until he worked with Pochettino. With Grealishes passing and ability to skip past a man I think he'd be better suited either playing understudy to Eriksen or starting off as a CM to take less burden off of him needing to create.

Just like Eriksen I'm sure he has the tools to play there and give Pochettino the option of using him in both CM or AM whenever the need is there. Just my opinion after watching him a few times towards the back end of last season

 

[St José Dominguez]

He could easily play in a 4-3-3. In a double pivot I would totally agree.

Think the only reason there was an assumption we'd move to that formation was because we weren't linked to any CMs. If we signed Ceballos for example I think we'd stick to 4-2-3-1 or 3-4-2-1.

 

[tiger666]

Dier wasn't a DM until he worked with Pochettino.

Dier had played central mid for Sporting plenty of times.

 

[Clamour_Kid]

Being totally naive and ignorant about this guy, please can someone compare Dani Ceballos' playing style to someone established so I can understand what we are dealing with here?

 

[Rosco1984]

Dier had played central mid for Sporting plenty of times.

Grealish was playing there last year with Onomah further up the pitch.

 

[St José Dominguez]

We've been using 4-3-3 in pre-season and Poch has deployed it in all 3 games. The question is whether he has done it because of the options available but I don't think he has.

I just think it's dependent on who we sign, maybe we have changed it or as you say maybe it's due to lack of players available.
It could still be a 4-3-3 but with DM and one of the three slightly deeper than the other. To be honest I quite like the idea of a fluid 4-3-3, think it would be exciting to watch.

 

[Long Lost]

We’d all probably take one of the 3 Madrid midfielders being linked with moves away but that’s what makes this unlikely IMO. As soon as one of the 3 leaves they probably won’t let another go, not sure we’ll secure one ahead of other European clubs

 

[St José Dominguez]

Being totally naive and ignorant about this guy, please can someone compare Dani Ceballos' playing style to someone established so I can understand what we are dealing with here?

This is how he likes to play football.

 

[ToDarrenIsToDo]

Dier had played central mid for Sporting plenty of times.

You're kind of missing the point. Dier was signed and played his whole first season as a CB for Tottenham and from what I can tell only played as a DM twice in Portugal with 5 further appearances in CM. the majority of his early career had been spent as a CB but if you asked anyone now what his position is they'd say DM.

The same goes for Max Meyer. Started off as an AM, found it difficult and as his career has developed he's dropped deeper back as the need to be as pivotal creatively is less the further back you are.

I personally think Grealish would sit as an option for potential both in CM or AM. He could end up a nice neat tidy player like Winks but with a bit more flair and forward movement or he could end up a more limited version of Eriksen.

The point being made is that just because you play a certain position when you're young doesn't mean that's where your attributes are best utilised when you step up a League or class as your career develops.

I believe Foyth started off his career further forward, as did Sanchez and dare I say it our old 23 was an attacker when he first hit the scene at Spurs. There's loads of examples of managers shifting a players position based on what gets the best out of his skills as a professional and I think Grealish would have been one I could see that happening with whilst he learns and was understudy to Eriksen

 

[whitelanefever]

Funnily enough when I suggested we should go for Ceballos I got spammed out of it.. I really like him doubt it will happen he don't want to give up on his Madrid career.. already turned down Liverpool.. only way I could see this happening would be a loan with option imo,.but ye never know suppose it depends if Madrid bring in more cm if they went & signed Pjanic or Milinkovic-Savic or someone of that ilk then would he get a look in at Real.. he'd have to reconsider.. I'd love him at Spurs

 

[fatpiranha]

If we go for him, I hope you're right. You can't understand everything from watching a 10 minute you tube reel - although 10 minutes gives you more of an idea than you had before.

We have form for signing players who aren't quite up to the job - as well as signing players who are.

A year or two ago, all I was reading about him was that he couldn't get in the RM side. If they let him go, he's not up to their standards. I feel Andre Gomes is similarly overrated. Another decent team's unwanted player.

I was expecting to see someone with a similar skillset of a De Bruyne - someone who has paintbrushes for football boots, an artist. What I saw is someone with low end product who can't cross very well and has no pace or strength, but can dribble fairly well.

The danger is that some people would clap a chair if it was photographed on deadline day in a spurs shirt, and Spurs have form for signing players dressed up as more than their actual skills warrant.

Would love to be wrong .

Well I haven't watched the YouTube vid but I did post twice about how much I liked this kid over a year ago. He is no Andre Gomes. I can't stand Gomes who is an appalling waste of space as a footballer. Ceballos isn't a De Bruyne but he would be fantastic against the bus parkers. He's more an Eden Hazard type player, although obviously not on that level yet.

 

[LexingtonSpurs]

You're kind of missing the point. Dier was signed and played his whole first season as a CB for Tottenham

He actually played RB quite a bit in his first season...