Daniel Levy makes attempt to get sporting director for Tottenham

[Lilbaz]

How do you know every major football club in the world has a transfer committee?

Because it is how things are done these days.
You have to have someone who knows what the budget is and what wages we can afford.
You have to have the coaches involved.
You usually scout the player.
You will have to have someone to negotiate.
These can't all be done by one person. Even fergie didn't do it all. If you have more than one person involved it is a committee.

 

[Chris_D]

I've never wanted a director of football, I just want a boss who picks the team and chooses who comes in and who goes out. Let's back Poch and Mitchell. We've had too many directors involved and I struggle to remember any of them doing any good. Would we really want Commolli back? Power to the Poch!!

 

[UbeAstard]

I think the less contact Levy has with other clubs on transfers can only be a good thing for Spurs bearing in mind the 'relationships' he tends to build!

I'm totally fine with what he has done and does. Levy is better for Spurs than some of our short sighted 'want it now!' fans.

 

[Mullers]

I don't know what you think the committee is?

Sherwood might have wanted eriksen years earlier because he was involved in signing youth players.

The rumour was that the recommendation was Eriksen for the first team and that Sherwood was on the transfer committee. It's well known that Levy valued his opinion.

If the manager, commoli, the scouts and levy discussed who we should go for was that not a committee?

Is that what happened or are you just assuming that is what happened?

Both Jol and Ramos were none to pleased with commoli, I find it hard to believe they were on a transfer committee.

 

[Dave-F]

It would be nice if they explained a bit more exactly what the process was. At least we'd then know who to blame or congratulate when things go wrong/right.

My understanding is that there are probably three processes, depending on the level of player we're going for. This being for the first team, future/current squad players and then all the under 18's.

I've always assumed Poch and his little coaching team decide what type of players they want for the first team. The first team scouts come up a list of possiblilities. These are then looked into in more detail by 'the comittee'. A short list of 3-5 players is then put together. Enquiries are then made by the DOF. If positive noises come back, then firm offers get put in by DOF/Levy at the appropriate time. Then the negotiation gets going by the financial team, both with the relevant club and the players representatives.

For future/squad players, it's basically the same, except it's a case of looking out for upcoming talent in general and probably different scouts. As such, doubt that Poch and his coaches have much to do with it.

Then for the Under 18's it's a different ball game altogether, with talent being looked for locally in the area and more widely in youth team competeitions etc.

 

[Donki]

The rumour was that the recommendation was Eriksen for the first team and that Sherwood was on the transfer committee. It's well known that Levy valued his opinion.

Is that what happened or are you just assuming that is what happened?

Both Jol and Ramos were none to pleased with commoli, I find it hard to believe they were on a transfer committee.

And you would never "assume" anything?

 

[Mullers]

And you would never "assume" anything?

Of course, all the time Donki, but I'll look to back it up if possible.

 

[Lilbaz]

The rumour was that the recommendation was Eriksen for the first team and that Sherwood was on the transfer committee. It's well known that Levy valued his opinion.

Is that what happened or are you just assuming that is what happened?

Both Jol and Ramos were none to pleased with commoli, I find it hard to believe they were on a transfer committee.

No i am not assuming. I posted a link to when david pleat explained the dof structure at spurs ages ago yet you ignore it every time and come up with the same questions.

Sherwood was not on the committee. He was a scout under harry though. And he was on the committee for players under21/academy which i believe has a separate budget.

 

[Mullers]

No i am not assuming. I posted a link to when david pleat explained the dof structure at spurs ages ago yet you ignore it every time and come up with the same questions.

I don't remember it, you said yourself it was ages ago.

Sherwood was not on the committee. He was a scout under harry though. And he was on the committee for players under21/academy which i believe has a separate budget.

I say he was.

Bit old but...catching up....

Date: 12th December 2012ITK: The JournalistPlayer: MoutinhoSource: Probability: 7/10Status:

As it stands it is transfers by committee. In one corner you have Daniel Levy, another corner AVB, another corner Tim Sherwood and the voice being ignored, Steffen Freund. Besides that what is Les Ferdinand’s role at the club as AVB doesn’t know?

There is no big secret and the media don’t always get it wrong. Daniel Levy wants Christian Eriksen and has Tim Sherwood in his ear about this one but AVB is not convinced that the player is as good as others make out.

http://www.thefightingcock.co.uk/forum/threads/january-2013-itk.3995/

Eales, who joined Tottenham in 2010 – then under the title of director of football administration – was part of the club’s infamous transfer committee alongside Daniel Levy, Franco Baldini, Andre Villas-Boas and Tim Sherwood that oversaw Spurs’ mass recruitment drive in the lead up to Gareth Bale’s world record sale to Real Madrid.

http://www.standard.co.uk/sport/foo...-new-atlanta-based-mls-franchise-9724368.html

 

[Mullers]

Because it is how things are done these days.
You have to have someone who knows what the budget is and what wages we can afford.
You have to have the coaches involved.
You usually scout the player.
You will have to have someone to negotiate.
These can't all be done by one person. Even fergie didn't do it all. If you have more than one person involved it is a committee.

So you're trying to tell me that Arsenal do their transfers by committee? That once wenger decides he wants a player he has to sit in a room and discuss it with scouts, head scout, coaches and directors? Because that isn't the impression I get.

 

[Lilbaz]

So you're trying to tell me that Arsenal do their transfers by committee? That once wenger decides he wants a player he has to sit in a room and discuss it with scouts, head scout, coaches and directors? Because that isn't the impression I get.

Wenger will send scouts to look at a player that he's interested they will then discuss it with whoever is charge of the transfer budget and whoever is responsible for the negotiations.
I didn't see wenger flying off to madrid to discuss terms with ozil.
You do remember commoli and dein were at arsenal. You think they had no input in signings?

 

[Donki]

So you're trying to tell me that Arsenal do their transfers by committee? That once wenger decides he wants a player he has to sit in a room and discuss it with scouts, head scout, coaches and directors? Because that isn't the impression I get.

A "commitee" of scouts it would seem.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-network-and-how-arsene-wenger-locates-talent

Anyway I dont see why your getting so hung up on this commitee thing, I would say that at ANY club the decision to buy a player has imput from a few people. If you think Wenger finds the players and signs them himself you are very wrong. He will become aware of most players by scouting reports, if some intrest him he will send a head scout to keep a track of him, then in discussions with the CE a bid will go forward.

How do you think it works?

 

[WhenTheYearEndsInOne]

If the club do choose someone for this role then I would like the club to appoint along the lines of Ajax or Bayern and use someone with a heritage to our club. My choice would be hoddle or Freund. A outside choice for me would be to promote McDermott who has been in and around the club for years doing a fine job as head of youth development.

 

[Mullers]

Wenger will send scouts to look at a player that he's interested they will then discuss it with whoever is charge of the transfer budget and whoever is responsible for the negotiations.
I didn't see wenger flying off to madrid to discuss terms with ozil.
You do remember commoli and dein were at arsenal. You think they had no input in signings?

You're talking about people helping him to get a player. Wenger would not accept Commoli and scouts in the directors ear about his choice of players. Which is what I am talking about. There is no doubt that Wenger has the final say on transfers.

 

[Mullers]

A "commitee" of scouts it would seem.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...-network-and-how-arsene-wenger-locates-talent

That is a scouting network Donki not a transfer committee.

Anyway I dont see why your getting so hung up on this commitee thing, I would say that at ANY club the decision to buy a player has imput from a few people. If you think Wenger finds the players and signs them himself you are very wrong. He will become aware of most players by scouting reports, if some intrest him he will send a head scout to keep a track of him, then in discussions with the CE a bid will go forward.

How do you think it works?

I've been an advocate of having an extensive scouting network for sometime. I didn't say anything about people not having input. Obviously most coaches have an assistant coach, backroom staff, scouts but they aren't on a committee in a board room deciding what players we should get with the chairman.

 

[Mullers]

If the club do choose someone for this role then I would like the club to appoint along the lines of Ajax or Bayern and use someone with a heritage to our club. My choice would be hoddle or Freund. A outside choice for me would be to promote McDermott who has been in and around the club for years doing a fine job as head of youth development.

Would they want to spend their time being mostly a negotiator? I doubt it. Also Hoddle and Pleat do not not get on.

 

[eViL]

I'll be very surprised if Cortese doesn't come in.

 

[Donki]

That is a scouting network Donki not a transfer committee.

I've been an advocate of having an extensive scouting network for sometime. I didn't say anything about people not having input. Obviously most coaches have an assistant coach, backroom staff, scouts but they aren't on a committee in a board room deciding what players we should get with the chairman.

I know its a scouting network, but Its still a group of people having imput. How come having a group of scouts doesn't muddy the waters but having a transfer committee does? Its still a group of people employed to identify players and ultimately make a signing. I dont get what your point is.

 

[Donki]

You're talking about people helping him to get a player. Wenger would not accept Commoli and scouts in the directors ear about his choice of players. Which is what I am talking about. There is no doubt that Wenger has the final say on transfers.

You are now talking about how different managers want to work, Poch clearly was happy to work in a similar system to ours at Southapton so why would he not be happy now?

 

[Mullers]

I know its a scouting network, but Its still a group of people having imput. How come having a group of scouts doesn't muddy the waters but having a transfer committee does? Its still a group of people employed to identify players and ultimately make a signing. I dont get what your point is.

Donki I get it, you are passionate about defending all things Levy and ENIC but surely you can see the difference between someone like Sherwood recommending a player to the chairman when the head coach/manager doesn't want that player and a head coach/manager sending out a scout to watch a player for him.