Danny Rose

[CosmicHotspur]

I would so love to see more of our younger, talented players in the first team squad and certainly playing in our European games next season.

We train them, bring them through the ranks, send them out on loan and then so often lose them (I still think we should have persevered with Taraabt) before they have a chance to prove themselves with their home team. Some are at international level, for example Kyle Walker who I hope will be back at the Lane and getting his opportunity next season.

Well done Danny for being one of the rare exceptions. Proving to be a real asset and one of those who always gives 100%.

 

[StartingPrice]

I would so love to see more of our younger, talented players in the first team squad and certainly playing in our European games next season.

We train them, bring them through the ranks, send them out on loan and then so often lose them (I still think we should have persevered with Taraabt) before they have a chance to prove themselves with their home team. Some are at international level, for example Kyle Walker who I hope will be back at the Lane and getting his opportunity next season.

Well done Danny for being one of the rare exceptions. Proving to be a real asset and one of those who always gives 100%.

It was that Taraabt wouldn't perservere with us...not the other way around.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Are you ignoring the first 60 minutes when we completely dominated them in favour of the final 8 minutes when they were pushing for the goal to save them from relegation?

No, we dominated them throughout but the quality of football certainly improved when Kranjcar was in the midfield instead of the unfit Huddlestone. That one ball to Lennon (not to mention a few dribbles) is more than Hudd did all game. And I like Huddlestone.

For what it's worth, Modric wasn't bad on the left, he actally played pretty well, but still not as effective as he has been all season.

If you're argument is against my comment regarding Modric on the left, that wasn't my point anyway so your wasting your time.

If you're argument is against my damnation of the lack of inclusion of Kranjcar when VDV, Bale and even Pienaar were all out, then I can only assume he raped your dog, pissed on your cornflaked and punched you nan all in one movement at some point because it is pretty obvious that he is one player who has not been given deserved chances this season and probably to the detriment of the team by virtue of the fact that inferior players have been used in his place.

 

[$hoguN]

My problem is with your statement that we played better with him on then without which is not true, we played well throughout, Modric on the left still had a good game, Sandro was still everywhere and we looked lively in general. Yes I would have liked to see Krancjar play as I rate him highly however its completely false to try and make out it was shifting Modric to the middle and bringing him on which led to us playing better football, as more than anything it was to do with them committing bodies forward in search of a goal which improved our football as our players were given more space and time.

 

[Mr Pink]

It wasn't a great performance against Birmingham overall IMO, no matter what way you try and look at the game in segments.

Dominated them with plenty of possession but created very little goal scoring opportunities and again lacked cutting edge in the final third. We look so short of ideas its unreal. Clear cut chances being created isn't commensurate with the amount of possession we are seeing.

When was the last time we had a ball pull backed and a striker slotted it in? or a one on one with the keeper? Or somebody driving into the box and scoring? - Modric against Stoke?

Its about movement and our foward players havnt been opening up the space enough for others to exploit.

I think its dissappointing given the amount of possession we are seeing.

 

[Bobbins]

But Redknapp signed Krankjar at Pompey, and then signed him here (and played him). He has said he likes Krankjar as a person. But the fact is that Krankjar is not good enough to play in our first team. And, as a squad player he is somehwat limited. He lacks pace, and he doesn't get back and defend with any vigour. And time I have seen him in the right he has been poor. So, he isn't versatile, meaning he takes up bench place to cover one position, only (substitute places are limited, y'know). If he comes on to cover an injury at left midfield and we are desperately defending, he offers little. If we have used two subs and there is an injury to right midfield, he is poor. His game, while being exciting and skillful, is suited to games where the pace is slowed. And he has been complaining about not being in the first team, even though we all know, in our hearts, he isn't quite good enough and/or suited to the game 'Arry wants to lay (moving the ball fast, etc.).

Pienaar, on the other hand, always gets back and covers the full-back with utmost vigour - something those who want to see bad in this move continually turn a blind eye to. He presses the ball with more vigour, urgency and consistency than Krankjar. He moves the ball quicker than Krankjar. He can cover all positions across midfield - and can be 'trusted' (to use an 'Arry-ism) to put a real shiftm in in any of them. So, he is a 'safer' bet to have on the bench, as he doesn't use up one bench place for one position and is as much likely to be of use when defending resolutely as when chasing a game. And, to top it all, he has indicated from the outset that he is prepared to be a squad player and fight for his place.

In short, Krankjar is a better option to have as a 1st team player, playing a certain style, as long as you aren't relying on him to get back in defend - but we already have better options for the first team, I know it, you know it, and Krankjar knows it, and that is why he has pretty much went straight into wanting to leavae (despite his excellent relationship with Redknapp). Pienaar, on the other hand is a much, much better option to have in the squad, as he is mroe versatile, harder working and suits our style of play more, even if being less spectacular than Krankjar, and scoring less, and he is happy with that.

That is the motivation behind letting Krankjar go, and buying Pienaar. It is nothing to do with not giving Krankjar a chance. It is not about who makes the best short video of skills and goals - where Krankjar would win hands down.

So when Krancjar scores 2 in 2 and can't get a game for the rest of the season, that's giving him a chance? Even when Pienaar's injured?

And I don't bvase my opinions on videos of skills and goals, otherwise I'd be a Dos Santos fan :lol:

Anyway, this isn't an anti-Pienaar post, I like him - it's a 'Harry, why don't you use the squad before buying players' post. And the point still stands.

 

[StartingPrice]

So when Krancjar scores 2 in 2 and can't get a game for the rest of the season, that's giving him a chance? Even when Pienaar's injured?

And I don't bvase my opinions on videos of skills and goals, otherwise I'd be a Dos Santos fan :lol:

Anyway, this isn't an anti-Pienaar post, I like him - it's a 'Harry, why don't you use the squad before buying players' post. And the point still stands.

And as I said in my follow-up post, I'm not by any means anti-Kranky, and have been as frustrated as you when games have been crying out for him...just showing what I belive to be the rationale behind the Pienaar deal.

Like I said, I think the combination of wieght problem and moaning about leaving, pluys, maybe sulking in training may have done for Kranks every bit as much as the alternatives to him.

 

[mpickard2087]

Kranjcar wins hands down as a creative attack minded player from the left or through the middle, one who offers a goal threat at that, in competition with Pienaar. So when creative attack minded Bale and VDV get injured, sometimes both at once, Kranjcar not coming into the team, but Pienaar instead, is madness. Then, when Pienaar himself is injured, Kranjcar still doesn't get put in. Instead, Modric is shafted out to the left (just a few days after saying he prefers the middle quite funnily) and Huddlestone, clearly not fit or ready, is put into the middle. Did anybody notice who much better we were in the final 8 minutes of the match v Brum with Kranjcar and Lennon either side of Modric and Sandro?

Pienaar has won me over a little, he was great away to Milan and the other day v Liverpool too, but when a creative goal thread is injured then Kranjcar should always have been the man called upon. Unfortunately, Huddlestone, Pienaar, Palacios and Jenas, each one requiring the style and formation to be slightly changed from our usual, have always got the nod ahead of Niko when Bale, Lennon or VDV (all players who are vital components going forward) despiet the fact that Niko is by far the most likely to be able to create or score a goal.

I dont think I have ever agreed with a post more. Well said BBLG :clap:

 

[Legend10]

has defintely stopped us getting the cheque book out to get in another LB.

Done really well in those few games!

 

[werty]

Not worth a new thread, so I thought I'd post it here. Scored a very good goal for the England U21's today against Norway. Skipped forward to 56 seconds.

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[Kyras]

It was a very good goal, but he didn't get involved as much as I would have wanted. To be fair to him though, Bertrant from left back was getting forward a lot forcing him out wide and too high up where he looks less comfortable.

 

[degoose]

Saw the match and Rose once again played pretty well but for this game he was on the left wing / left striker position . He did get forced into the middle a fair bit but he took his goal well and also got wide and swung in a few good crosses .

 

[Adam456]

Read about this 'solo goal' last night and wondered whether it was a bit exaggerated. Indeed it was. Mis-controlled it twice but somehow managed to keep hold and then get the shot off while slipping. He didn't celebrate much (unlike against the scum) so I'm guessing either it means little to score for the U-21s or he felt a little lucky

Good luck to him and this can only help but hopefully he'll accept being a left-back because from what I've seen, apart from a powerful shot, he just doesn't have the technical ability to match his pace

 

[C0YS]

Read about this 'solo goal' last night and wondered whether it was a bit exaggerated. Indeed it was. Mis-controlled it twice but somehow managed to keep hold and then get the shot off while slipping. He didn't celebrate much (unlike against the scum) so I'm guessing either it means little to score for the U-21s or he felt a little lucky

Good luck to him and this can only help but hopefully he'll accept being a left-back because from what I've seen, apart from a powerful shot, he just doesn't have the technical ability to match his pace

It being a friendly might have something to do with it. Amazing goal. Even if you take out the dribble the finish was brilliant

 

[Adam456]

It being a friendly might have something to do with it. Amazing goal. Even if you take out the dribble the finish was brilliant

I didn't realise it was only a friendly. They seemed to celebrate the first goal - a tap in - quite enthusiastically whereas he hardly acknowledged his

No way to prove either way but couldn't help the feeling that he was going to sky it but the slip somehow helped him to wrap foot around and get purchase

Anyway, can only be good for his confidence. Hopefully he'll prove me wrong on the technical ability

 

[nidge]

It being a friendly might have something to do with it. Amazing goal. Even if you take out the dribble the finish was brilliant

I thought it was a double hit but I would need to see the slow-mo again to be sure.

 

[thfc1989]

I like the idea of Rose being converted to a left back as I don't think he would make it at left mid for us, but he looked great going forward from a bit deeper

 

[ravo]

Great goal

 

[We'llWinThePrem]

Fantastic goal!

would love him in the team next season

 

[DEFchenkOE]

It wasn't a double hit despite his slip as he hit it. He had a decent game as others mentioned put a few good crosses in. I was hoping he'd get to play this tournament at left back though to help his development in that position as I don't think he has what it takes to make it as an attacking player with us.

it seems like Bertrand will play there though and he seems quite good to be fair, there's also Gibbs. Not sure if he's still involved in the u21s though, i'd expect him to be first choice lb if he was.