Danny Welbeck

[Barry Mead]

I really don't see a major problem with that 4-3-3 set up providing our full backs are good at both attacking and in defence. We can address left back in the transfer window.

We're Spurs and we need to be attacking. Sandro, Dembele and Eriksen behind the forwards would be an excellent combination. You could even swap Holtby for Dembele when we're going to be allowed more space.

Not only would we be capable in possession, but we'd have a real goal threat upfront. Soldado/Ade, Welbeck & Lamela would all be capable of replicating what Liverpool have done this year with Suarez, Sturridge and Sterling.

The only issue is that we'll need good full backs and it's up to us to strengthen that area.

We'd still be suffering from the same problems we have now, not being creative enough in the central and deeper midfield areas. We would still lack that deeper lying playmaker, the passing through midfield would still lack fluency, quality and speed of movement.

Dembele holds the ball too long delaying attacks is a poor decision maker and is hardly a great creative passer, Sandro has the energy but lacks the passing range, Eriksen has the vision and has a nice passing repertoire but is best placed in advanced areas as an am, thus great to receive the ball from deeper lying areas as long as there is someone there deeper who has the vision and passing range to find him

Aside from that why add someone like Welbeck in attack when he just doesn't have the goals to warrant being the main goal threat or enough real attacking skills to be part of an attacking three? There's better goalscorers and better creative attackers who can still offer a decent enough goal tally. Welbeck for me offers too few goals as a striker and too few assists/creativity as an extra attacker.

He just seems such an at best average sort of player, OK, a tryer but no cigar, if we want success we really need to be looking for better

 

[Snarfalicious]

Unless he's already spoken for, going for Welbeck instead of a player like Michy Batshuayi would be incredibly frustrating.

Actually, in my opinion, any scenario where we go for Welbeck would be incredibly frustrating.

 

[chinaman]

Have we decided to go with the trend and go diving?

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

 

[Klinsmannesque]

I like him. In the right system as a striker he could be very effective stretching defences creating space for the likes of Lamela / Eriksen something we lack. I would go as far to say a trio of Bony, Welbeck and Kane could offer us different yet compatable options - it doesnt sound the most exotic strikeforce but in terms of compatability (look at the likes of Everton with Lukaku Miralles Naismith etc) maybe its a route we need to go down in order to become a team unit in other areas of the pitch as well.

 

[DaSpurs]

I like him. In the right system as a striker he could be very effective stretching defences creating space for the likes of Lamela / Eriksen something we lack. I would go as far to say a trio of Bony, Welbeck and Kane could offer us different yet compatable options - it doesnt sound the most exotic strikeforce but in terms of compatability (look at the likes of Everton with Lukaku Miralles Naismith etc) maybe its a route we need to go down in order to become a team unit in other areas of the pitch as well.

While you make a decent enough point for an idealistic world, Bony and Welbeck together would cost nothing short of 40 mil.

 

[TheAmerican]

He is very much a hot and cold player.

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Spoiler: Bad

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

He is very much a hot and cold player.

Spoiler: Good

Spoiler: Bad

Could that be largely down to sporadic appearances and varying positions, though? One thing I do like about him, besides his excellent work-rate and team ethic, is the fact that, despite the 'cold' things you've kindly shared with us in the above clips, the lad doesn't go into hiding after such events.

I think it's a good sign, a demonstration of a strong mentality, something that is becoming as rare as rocking-horse shit. Honestly, as much as it's going to go down like a bag of shit, I'd have him instead of Adebayor. I've got my own reasons for that, Adebayor has not played badly, far from it. However, I don't think we'll see the Ade from this season, IF we can get a manager who puts the team before any individual.

Adebayor performed under Redknapp and Sherwood because, by their own admission, they never told him what to do, they just said "go out there and be Ade", though Sherwood took it to a whole new level by saying "I will not tell you anything, you've been around the block". No proper manager is going to allow such luxuries, in my opinion.

That is why I'd take Welbeck instead of Adebayor.

 

[TheAmerican]

Could that be largely down to sporadic appearances and varying positions, though? One thing I do like about him, besides his excellent work-rate and team ethic, is the fact that, despite the 'cold' things you've kindly shared with us in the above clips, the lad doesn't go into hiding after such events.

I think it's a good sign, a demonstration of a strong mentality, something that is becoming as rare as rocking-horse shit. Honestly, as much as it's going to go down like a bag of shit, I'd have him instead of Adebayor. I've got my own reasons for that, Adebayor has not played badly, far from it. However, I don't think we'll see the Ade from this season, IF we can get a manager who puts the team before any individual.

Adebayor performed under Redknapp and Sherwood because, by their own admission, they never told him what to do, they just said "go out there and be Ade", though Sherwood took it to a whole new level by saying "I will not tell you anything, you've been around the block". No proper manager is going to allow such luxuries, in my opinion.

That is why I'd take Welbeck instead of Adebayor.

He's also still very young. He should get more consistent with time.

 

[dirtyh]

Never ever seen what the fuss is about. Has a good game every 5 or 6, just enough to keep getting him on the team sheet. Massive no from me, amazed he's at united to start with.

 

[DaSpurs]

While you make a decent enough point for an idealistic world, Bony and Welbeck together would cost nothing short of 40 mil.

@Pwick0701 why does this merit a "dislike?" Is difficult to disagree with a fact, but I'm intrigued to hear your logic if you do disagree.

 

[Joeyboey]

Unless he's already spoken for, going for Welbeck instead of a player like Michy Batshuayi would be incredibly frustrating.

Actually, in my opinion, any scenario where we go for Welbeck would be incredibly frustrating.

I agree in part but I said the same thing about Daniel Sturridge 18 months ago, a lot of us on SC did and we were wrong. Welbeck is also pretty much the same age as when Sturridge made his move to Liverpool so the situation is relatively similar.

Every time I've seen him play as a central striker he's looked dangerous and has something like 6 goals in 8 starts when playing through the middle this season. He has 8 goals in 21 games for England which is actually very impressive.

I just get the sneaky feeling that there's a huge amount of potential in Welbeck that is yet to be realised. He has all the attributes, he just needs the right guidance, a run of games and to not be in some else's shadow.

 

[Snarfalicious]

I agree in part but I said the same thing about Daniel Sturridge 18 months ago, a lot of us on SC did and we were wrong. Welbeck is also pretty much the same age as when Sturridge made his move to Liverpool so the situation is relatively similar.

Every time I've seen him play as a central striker he's looked dangerous and has something like 6 goals in 8 starts when playing through the middle this season. He has 8 goals in 21 games for England which is actually very impressive.

I just get the sneaky feeling that there's a huge amount of potential in Welbeck that is yet to be realised. He has all the attributes, he just needs the right guidance, a run of games and to not be in some else's shadow.

That's actually a very fair point. The main difference for me would be that Sturridge often, almost exclusively, played out wide for Chelsea. He moved to Liverpool and had a chance to play as a striker in a side that now is creating chances for fun. Welbeck has obviously played out wide but has also had a good amount of starts as a striker.

Welbeck and Soldado could form a pretty solid duo, though. One offering the pace for over the top, the other with the quality of play in buildup.

 

[Pwick0701]

@Pwick0701 why does this merit a "dislike?" Is difficult to disagree with a fact, but I'm intrigued to hear your logic if you do disagree.

Oops! Didn't realise I'd even rated it - must have been when I was scrolling down the page. Have just removed it!

 

[TheAmerican]

That's actually a very fair point. The main difference for me would be that Sturridge often, almost exclusively, played out wide for Chelsea. He moved to Liverpool and had a chance to play as a striker in a side that now is creating chances for fun. Welbeck has obviously played out wide but has also had a good amount of starts as a striker.

Welbeck and Soldado could form a pretty solid duo, though. One offering the pace for over the top, the other with the quality of play in buildup.

I actually think Welbeck would be a very good linkup man. I think his ability to bring others into the play is one of his best attributes.

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[Gbspurs]

Surely the chances of him leaving now Moyes is sacked are slim anyway? For the record I would be happy with the signing, he needs a bit of polishing but he will be an excellent player.

 

[$hoguN]

Welbeck is a terrible player. Would be very disappointed in signing him.

 

[Gbspurs]

Welbeck is a terrible player. Would be very disappointed in signing him.

Terrible? Bit extreme.

On this note it's amazing how harshly players are judged nowadays. I wonder if it's the way FIFA and Football Manager games are so popular now and because they rate players by overall stats and scores this makes people believe that players can all be judged by "attributes".

 

[$hoguN]

Terrible? Bit extreme.

On this note it's amazing how harshly players are judged nowadays. I wonder if it's the way FIFA and Football Manager games are so popular now and because they rate players by overall stats and scores this makes people believe that players can all be judged by "attributes".

I don't think it is a harsh judgement at all. He blows hot and cold, is very wasteful in front of goal and over relies on his pace. He is basically the Aaron Lennon of forwards.

 

[Gbspurs]

I don't think it is a harsh judgement at all. He blows hot and cold, is very wasteful in front of goal and over relies on his pace. He is basically the Aaron Lennon of forwards.

Personally I think its really harsh to judge any 23 year old player in such a way. Blowing hot and cold and being wasteful could be labeled at any young player apart from maybe the very rare "wonderkids" that are out there.

Is it still the case that players peak in their late 20's? I'm not saying he is a world beater but he is better than many other 23 year olds and shows that he could improve. It just opinion but I don't think any player of that age can be judged as the finished article.