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[Gaz_Gammon]

None of those managers were good enough. What do you want to do? Give them more time to screw up? Sorry but if they can't do the job then it's no good keeping them. Once we get someone who's actually up to it then obviously we won't sack them lol.

Eventually even the most unluckiest of unlucky and unfortunate Chairman make one good appointment. Levy will eventually make one. It's the law of averages i guess.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

You are probably right but you could have said the same about Liverpool twelve months ago.

Aside from Redknapp and Jol which other Manager appointed by Levy has had more than two seasons? Rogers has been given time, and last season a seventh place finish for Rogers would have meant the end for him had he been at Spurs. History tells everyone that fact. I mean fourth place and a quarter final CL spot gets you fired at this club.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Redknapp got 4 didn't he? Jol hot what, 3?
It was only AVB and R###s that were very short and fully bloody justified.

Jol was appointed in an almost similar situation to Sherwood after thirteen games of the 2004 season (November 8th) and fired on October 25th 2007 but it appears that he was given more time than Sherwood may now get. Perhaps Levy's patience is growing ever thinner with the fact that whoever he anoints cannot seem to get us to finish above Arsenal.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Eventually even the most unluckiest of unlucky and unfortunate Chairman make one good appointment. Levy will eventually make one. It's the law of averages i guess.

He won't if he sticks by the numpties you seem to think should have been given time.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Jol was appointed in an almost similar situation to Sherwood after thirteen games of the 2004 season (November 8th) and fired on October 25th 2007 but it appears that he was given more time than Sherwood may now get. Perhaps Levy's patience is growing ever thinner with the fact that whoever he anoints cannot seem to get us to finish above Arsenal.

Gaz, you're not an idiot ffs.
Sherwood has been given exactly the time he was ever going to get.
He's a caretaker manager. He was only ever intended to be in charge until the end of the season.
Daniel Levy is many things, but naive enough to put an unqualified nobody in charge of one of the bigger clubs in England permanently he is not.

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Gaz, you're not an idiot ffs.
Sherwood has been given exactly the time he was ever going to get.
He's a caretaker manager. He was only ever intended to be in charge until the end of the season.
Daniel Levy is many things, but naive enough to put an unqualified nobody in charge of one of the bigger clubs in England permanently he is not.

I am not lobbying for Sherwood, just stating facts. It will go against anything that Levy has done in his entire tenure if the next manager lasts more than two and a half seasons. That is a fact ever since Levy became Chairman. His business acumen is possibly as good as it get's in football, but his football management leaves a lot to be desired.

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

I am not lobbying for Sherwood, just stating facts. It will go against anything that Levy has done in his entire tenure if the next manager lasts more than two and a half seasons. That is a fact ever since Levy became Chairman. His business acumen is possibly as good as it get's in football, but his football management leaves a lot to be desired.

You act as if levy just sacks people for the sake of it. You know that's not true right?

 

[idontgetit]

You are probably right but you could have said the same about Liverpool twelve months ago.

I'm pretty sure they played extremely well from January onwards last year

 

[idontgetit]

I am not lobbying for Sherwood, just stating facts. It will go against anything that Levy has done in his entire tenure if the next manager lasts more than two and a half seasons. That is a fact ever since Levy became Chairman. His business acumen is possibly as good as it get's in football, but his football management leaves a lot to be desired.

Redknapp was here nearly four years! And he only got sacked because he actually was a very naughty boy. I think in fact Levy was looking at it as setting the club up for the long term by sacking him. New, successful but young, tactically astute and technical manager with great international connections to come in and take the club forward from the ground up through the next 6 years. Someone who would actually take advantage of the brand spanking new training facilities and hopefully new stadium. Sadly though AVB was just an illusion, one that fooled a lot of people and evidently reading these forums still does

 

[slartibartfast]

Redknapp was here nearly four years! And he only got sacked because he actually was a very naughty boy. I think in fact Levy was looking at it as setting the club up for the long term by sacking him. New, successful but young, tactically astute and technical manager with great international connections to come in and take the club forward from the ground up through the next 6 years. Someone who would actually take advantage of the brand spanking new training facilities and hopefully new stadium. Sadly though AVB was just an illusion, one that fooled a lot of people and evidently reading these forums still does

Thinking that sacking Redknapp was going to take the club in any direction other than backwards was f-in nuts imo.
Not because we appointed AVB(which was even more nuts imo) but because Redknapp achieved what no one else had managed to do, not once but twice. So in what realm of fantasy la la land did Levy think whoever he appointed would either a) do as well or b) take us forward?
The odds were not in favour of that happening and now we're floundering around with no direction at all.
Imo this position we find ourselves in was inevitable.

 

[idontgetit]

Thinking that sacking Redknapp was going to take the club in any direction other than backwards was f-in nuts imo.
Not because we appointed AVB(which was even more nuts imo) but because Redknapp achieved what no one else had managed to do, not once but twice. So in what realm of fantasy la la land did Levy think whoever he appointed would either a) do as well or b) take us forward?
The odds were not in favour of that happening and now we're floundering around with no direction at all.
Imo this position we find ourselves in was inevitable.

Redknapp had an unbelievably good side. King, Modric, Sandro, Bale, VDV, Adebayor, it's not like he was a genius. I loved the bloke and he certainly got us playing well but he pissed us around too much, took his foot off the gas and didn't seem like a long term option. If he'd rotated his side better and been more pro-active in scouting new players he wouldn't have been sacked

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Redknapp did brilliantly. But he also Shat on his own doorstep massively when it came to the England job. We stuck by him with the tax scandal then when every one else said he should be England manager, all he did was swan around like he was a sure fire certainty for it.
He also alienated half the squad by always playing his favourites every single week and ignoring anyone else. Never ever forget he did that with bale to and only played him because Benny got injured.

 

[slartibartfast]

Redknapp had an unbelievably good side. King, Modric, Sandro, Bale, VDV, Adebayor, it's not like he was a genius. I loved the bloke and he certainly got us playing well but he pissed us around too much, took his foot off the gas and didn't seem like a long term option. If he'd rotated his side better and been more pro-active in scouting new players he wouldn't have been sacked

Redknapp had the side he built and got playing for the shirt, it didnt just fking materialise and he was along for the ride. Players wanted to come to the club, stay at the club and play for him.
That arguement is so bloody stupid it begs belief.
So what your basically saying is despite doing better than anyone before him he should have done even better so was sacked????
You can see why we're standing around with our dicks out with that kind of thinking.
The whole world was in a state of shock that we'd been so bloody stupid when it was announced he'd been sacked and yet some still believe it was the right thing to do. Liverpool and Arsenal fans were grinning from ear to ear (and still are).
Well it doesnt look like it was the right idea from where Im sitting and it didnt then either.
I think those that were calling for Redknapp to go (not the 36000 real fans at the Newcastle game begging him to stay) are the ones that cant admit they were wrong.
History now anyway. I'll say no more on the subject as going over old ground (again lol, but pisses me off).
Onwards and .... we'll see.

 

[idontgetit]

Redknapp had the side he built and got playing for the shirt, it didnt just fking materialise and he was along for the ride. Players wanted to come to the club and play for him.
That arguement is so bloody stupid it begs belief.
So what your basically saying is despite doing better than anyone before him he should have done even better so was sacked????
You can see why we're floundering around with our dicks out with that kind of thinking.
The whole world was in a state of shock that we'd been so bloody stupid and yet some still believe it was the right thing to do.
Well it doesnt look like it from where Im sitting and it didnt then either.

I'm saying in hindsight it was the wrong decision but I completely understand why Daniel Levy chose to do it

 

[slartibartfast]

I'm saying in hindsight it was the wrong decision but I completely understand why Daniel Levy chose to do it

Oh I know why he did it.
Its called cutting your nose off to spite your face.
And its not hindsight when it was highly unlikely anything was going to happen other than it all going tits up....
Arse, I said I wasnt gonna say anymore on the subject lol

 

[Sarsipius]

It will be the way it goes until we find the right man I'm afraid . Redknapp had his chance then went and signed Saha and Nielsen . AVB was just not the right man for the club ( personally liked him ). Hopefully frank is given time I believe he could be the man to take us to the next step .

gOOD psot!

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

Redknapp was here nearly four years! And he only got sacked because he actually was a very naughty boy. I think in fact Levy was looking at it as setting the club up for the long term by sacking him. New, successful but young, tactically astute and technical manager with great international connections to come in and take the club forward from the ground up through the next 6 years. Someone who would actually take advantage of the brand spanking new training facilities and hopefully new stadium. Sadly though AVB was just an illusion, one that fooled a lot of people and evidently reading these forums still does

Sacking Redknapp really moved the club forward in leaps and bounds.

 

[1882andallthat]

Eventually even the most unluckiest of unlucky and unfortunate Chairman make one good appointment. Levy will eventually make one. It's the law of averages i guess.

I truly do wish the law of averages applied to the law of football because if it did we would eventually see :
1. Arsenal choke at the wrong time for them in the race for a Champions League place and miss out on the last game of the season ; and
2. Arsenal get relegated ; and
3. England eventually win a penalty shoot out especially against Germany in a semi final or final.
4. Spurs win the league and do the double over Arsenal and the Chavs.

As patiently as I have been waiting and as much as I have been wanting all or even one of the above happening I've clung to the law of averages in desperation as a last ditch strategy and unfortunately it has not served me well.

 

[chinaman]

I truly do wish the law of averages applied to the law of football because if it did we would eventually see :
1. Arsenal choke at the wrong time for them in the race for a Champions League place and miss out on the last game of the season ; and
2. Arsenal get relegated ; and
3. England eventually win a penalty shoot out especially against Germany in a semi final or final.
4. Spurs win the league and do the double over Arsenal and the Chavs.

As patiently as I have been waiting and as much as I have been wanting all or even one of the above happening I've clung to the law of averages in desperation as a last ditch strategy and unfortunately it has not served me well.

You may have to live through another century to see all these happen.