i really don't understand this myth that Pav is a 'technical' player he is a brilliant finisher but his touch often lets him down. He's more of a striker who comes alive in the penalty area rather than defoe who also has the ability to run at defenders and off the shoulder of the last man in his locker

Why were there men in his locker?

So basically from the 10 people who actually voted on the "Just Football", the hub of Spurs related news, these were the results ?

Peter Crouch 3%, what a joke.

His movement is cleverer than Defoe's, isn't it?

What a well balanced and carefully thought out article.............do people actually get paid to write this crap!?!?!

and what did these 10 guys think at the end of March?

let me guess...

1, Roman Pavlyuchenko 25%)
2, Eidur Gudjohnsen (25%)
3, Jermain Defoe (25%)
4, Peter Crouch (25%)
5, Robbie Keane (0%)

Yawn.

Funny how if it doesn't conform to somebody's views then it has to be dismissed as a "10-man survey crap". While the percentages are contentious, as the article writer said himself, the overall picture is not far from the true reflection of most supporters' views that Defoe and Pavlyuchenko is the best partnership at the moment, with Gudjonssen and Crouch as valuable options too. I would argue that in some games Gudjonssen may prove more effective than Defoe. Crouch is indeed a very good option to have in certain games and as a 2nd half impact sub.

We best send this to Redknapp, so he knows what to do.

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i really don't understand this myth that Pav is a 'technical' player he is a brilliant finisher but his touch often lets him down. He's more of a striker who comes alive in the penalty area rather than defoe who also has the ability to run at defenders and off the shoulder of the last man in his locker
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His movement is cleverer than Defoe's, isn't it?

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I suppose it depends on your definition of technical, i took it to mean his technique and ability on the ball but i see your point.

I find this poll interesting, its results unsurprising and the comments reasonable.

After all it's only a snapshot poll and if Defoe and Crouch were to get hatricks and Pav. get a run of games when he didn't score views would change.

The heading is misleading as the top two scorers don't neccesarily make the best pairing.

Pavlyuchenko is very much the flavour of the month as any striker would be who scores 8 in ten games (I goal every72 minutes played) Especially after being ignored by Harry and becoming something of a fans' favourite without ever playing.

Defoe is out top scorer (23) but his strike rate is inferior to Pavlyuchenko's. 1/116 mins. played. I don't think that there is much evidence that he plays particularly well with any other striker but I don't have the statistics to hand on this.

Crouch does raise questions about the way the other players respond to him. After all the 'offering an alternative ' only works if it is not overused. This is not solely his fault . His strike rate is 1/238(11)

.This is not far ahead of Kranjcar, our best midfielder in terms of goals (strike rate 1/255(8))

Other rates for comparison are.
Keane 1/160 (9)
Gudjohnsen 1/175 (2)
Bentley 1/325 (4)
Lennon 1/584 (3)

There is probably some relief that the 'problem' of Robbie Keane has been shunted into the sidings and that Gudjohnsen seems capable of filling his role.

On the technical argument it depends what you mean.
Pavlyuchenko's movement, eye for goal, awareness are all good. His shooting varies from exceptional to wayward and his control has been poor at times.

Have you ever heard of Just football?
Have u actually looked at the site?
Did u see the servey come out?

So basically, who answered these "supposed" questions?

"The article writer said himself, the overall picture is not far from the true reflection of the market" ... how does he know this ? Who has he spoken too, who the site hasnt ?

I hate these random sites who make up information to boost their ratings... I guess "The people" own it....

Jokers

The problem with Defoe and Pav is that they both prefer to be in the box scoring goals. Neither creates much of his team mates. This is what Crouch and EG do very well, so I would rather a partnership of one of Defoe/Pav and another of EG and Crouch. I am not massively fussed which combination.

The other problem with JD and Pav is that once they played well against a shit Stoke side, scoring one nice goal and maybe looked good in a summer kickabout against a raw Greek side and people thought it was the new Keane/Berba.

Keane/Berba

This just points to how important the partnership is, and team play in general.

Harry really has us playing as a team, and we've gone through a lot of changes and kept winning, which has really surprised me, actually. At first I thought we had a good first XI, but now I see we have a really strong, versatile squad. Kranjar came in for Modric and gave us something else. Bentley came in for Lennon and did a good job. bale has come in for BAE and really been a star, and more recently Pav and Eidur have shown we have four dangerous strikers, and many possible partnerships, not just one or two. Definitely not just Defoe+Pav= 88%

That's harsh. I actually think the guy has made one or two fair points.

I am please to see the result of this poll. I have long held out that Crouch is our weakest striker and I still believe that an off form Keane is better than him. If I had my way we'd bring Keane back next year and sell Crouch in favour of keeping Eidur on at the club. I feel a Eidur/Keane bench is much closer to a Berbs/Keane pairing than Crouch/Eidur or Crouch/Keane would be.

I really don't go along with your assertion 'Azrael' that "an off form Keane is better then him"...(meaning Crouch.) And bringing Keane back in his place?? You must surely be joking?
Although I tend to agree that Crouch may be our "weakest striker"purely looking at goals scored, I believe he offers our team more than that. Would Keane be able to have the same impact coming on as a late substitution? I don't think so. And what about his team attitude and fighting qualities? I thnk Crouch rates higher if one were to include those other qualities he brings to the team.

People will always associate a striker with how many goals he scores and the votes will always swing towards that. But our manager see a lot more to a striker than the amount of goals he scores. Winning football matches is about creating chances, defending well, chasing down, knowing when to change style/tactics (experience), and adhering to the bosses wishes, blah blah blah. Redknapp has his own ideas and we all have to admit that Crouch is a great guy to have on when we're defending set pieces. Only last year we couldn't defend a set piece to save our lives (a lot of people forgot this very quickly).

I like Crouch but for me he's not a starter. He's great when he is fresh in the last half hour of games and I would play him that way if we are defending a lead OR chasing a goal....

Ditto 'jenko'.