Demarai Gray

[HildoSpur]

I really struggle to be excited about this. He may have potential and may Poch may be able to do something with him, but if he can't get game time at Leicester I can't see how he will get it here for a while. As @spursfan77 says if we should buy someone, then it should be someone that can make a difference now. I would actually rather give GKN a chance instead of buying Gray.

We are hopefully buying a player who can make the difference now - Barkley. Gray would be a squad filler which we do need.

 

[ajspurs]

Haven't watched this guy properly so really can't judge him. He has annoyed me from the little I have seen of him though, has looked like a greedy little bastard but I know a lot on here rate him so I'm guessing he shows promise.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

We are hopefully buying a player who can make the difference now - Barkley. Gray would be a squad filler which we do need.

Not just that, but if we get him for a Levy price, the potential improvement, if realised, generates additional value and resale profit potential which is a game Levy loves to play. Which, come to think of it, might just as easily be applied to Barkley

 

[absolute bobbins]

Not just that, but if we get him for a Levy price, the potential improvement, if realised, generates additional value and resale profit potential which is a game Levy loves to play. Which, come to think of it, might just as easily be applied to Barkley

Which is part of the reason why Everton want to play hard ball, the fear of losing out

 

[arunspurs]

Not just that, but if we get him for a Levy price, the potential improvement, if realised, generates additional value and resale profit potential which is a game Levy loves to play. Which, come to think of it, might just as easily be applied to Barkley

Gray makes any sense only if we get for less than 15m. Anything over that , is a huge risk given he has done as little as Nkoudou or Njie.
If we really need a squad filler, I would rather get Chadli- with him at war with Pulis, would be cheaper

 

[SwedishSpurs]

We are hopefully buying a player who can make the difference now - Barkley. Gray would be a squad filler which we do need.

Absolutely, I don't really think he would signed insted of Barkley or someone of that calibre. But I don't see the real need for him when we have someone like Nkoudou in the team. Maybe Poch doesn't rate GKN, but he has looked interesting enough in preseason to be given a chance imo. And if we sign Gray and Barkley I can't see Nkoudou stay either.

 

[DannyNZ]

Hard to get excited by Gray.

 

[spursfan77]

Not just that, but if we get him for a Levy price, the potential improvement, if realised, generates additional value and resale profit potential which is a game Levy loves to play. Which, come to think of it, might just as easily be applied to Barkley

But why buy another player that might possibly make it? We've already wasted £20 million on 2 players from France doing that. Why make it £40 million signing this guy?

All he seems to do is moan that he's not getting a chance at Leicester, then doesn't grab the chance when he gets one according to Leicester fans. Just like Sissoko with us. We don't need another player with that losers mentality.

 

[yido_number1]

Gray makes any sense only if we get for less than 15m. Anything over that , is a huge risk given he has done as little as Nkoudou or Njie.
If we really need a squad filler, I would rather get Chadli- with him at war with Pulis, would be cheaper

We've seen Chadli in the Poch system and he doesn't work hard enough. I'd rather move forward with other players than revisit the past.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

But why buy another player that might possibly make it? We've already wasted £20 million on 2 players from France doing that. Why make it £40 million signing this guy?

All he seems to do is moan that he's not getting a chance at Leicester, then doesn't grab the chance when he gets one according to Leicester fans. Just like Sissoko with us. We don't need another player with that losers mentality.

Really good point- we've underwhelmed with N'Jie and GNK; another punt on potential that doesn't develop becomes almost laughable if it wasn't so tragically frustrating. I'd rather see us splash out a bit more for someone who is already on the path to achieving their potential; a Son type signing

 

[spursfan77]

Really good point- we've underwhelmed with N'Jie and GNK; another punt on potential that doesn't develop becomes almost laughable if it wasn't so tragically frustrating. I'd rather see us splash out a bit more for someone who is already on the path to achieving their potential; a Son type signing

I'm not asking to spend loads of money. I was thinking along the same lines as Son. There must be a player playing in the top 5 leagues that's similar quality to him or about his level (when he was at Leverkusen as last season he surpassed what we expected) that we could get for a sensible price that wouldn't cost the earth in wages.

That's what I thought our new scouts were meant to be doing. Finding players to improve the squad. Not finding much at the moment it seems from outside the club.

 

[arunspurs]

We've seen Chadli in the Poch system and he doesn't work hard enough. I'd rather move forward with other players than revisit the past.

We did move forward buying Njie & Nkoudou. Were they improvement on Chadli ? No.
Why should Gray be any better considering what he has (not) done till date ?

I am more excited by Georgiou than Gray. In 45 minute he showed so much promise, flair & end product than Gray in last 2 years

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

But why buy another player that might possibly make it?.

Because time after time after time, it's the kind of thing Levy does and likes to do too. We fairly often get most, if not all of our money back on players who don't make it and the margins for those who do, can be massive, so of course he's going to continue doing that as and when he can and quite rightly too, it's a decent way of upgrading the squad when it comes off and we should always have a certain turnover of this kind of player.

I don't much care if we sign the guy or not, but if we do, I can absolutely see why.

 

[worcestersauce]

A squad filler isn't just a body to make up numbers, he has to offer something different or be a good alternative to one position we have no direct alternative for.
We are not going to buy somebody better than our top players, with they don't exist or we can't afford them so Gray is the type of player we would look at and judge on the two criteria I mentioned, does he qualify or not?
I don't get the idea that he qualifies at £15m but not at £20m.

 

[yido_number1]

We did move forward buying Njie & Nkoudou. Were they improvement on Chadli ? No.
Why should Gray be any better considering what he has (not) done till date ?

I am more excited by Georgiou than Gray. In 45 minute he showed so much promise, flair & end product than Gray in last 2 years

I'm not saying sign Gray, I'm saying find someone that fits the system because Chadli doesn't. I'd say Son has filled Chadli's slot rather than N'Jie or N'Koudou and offers more to the team in both goals and work rate than Chadli. N'Koudou was a young kid in a new country and league and you can afford him time to settle for the money we signed him for. I think he will be a lot better this year. N'Jie didn't work out, he was heavy footed and obviously getting injured when he did never helped.

 

[spursfan77]

Because time after time after time, it's the kind of thing Levy does and likes to do too. We fairly often get most, if not all of our money back on players who don't make it and the margins for those who do, can be massive, so of course he's going to continue doing that as and when he can and quite rightly too, it's a decent way of upgrading the squad when it comes off and we should always have a certain turnover of this kind of player.

I don't much care if we sign the guy or not, but if we do, I can absolutely see why.

I'm not saying our transfer policy in the past has been wrong on the whole, far from it. But there's no disguising something has happened to our scouting to keep getting these players wrong over the last couple of years. I never had much faith in Mitchell so will blame him in this instance!

I can definitely see why we would buy him. I just don't think we should. If we want to go down this road we should go for Redmond at Southampton. He's much more ready.

 

[mill]

£20m rejected from Bournemouth, can't see us wanting to get involved at that price. the neymar deal will only drag prices up further, I do think we're gonna struggle to get deals done

 

[oskathegobshite]

I'd pay 20 million for him in this market but not much more than that

 

[jonathanhotspur]

Bournemouth said to have offered £20m for him.

 

[yido_number1]

Bournemouth said to have offered £20m for him.

Would be a great signing for Bournemouth and probably a good move for him. Loads of game time, really bright young manager and a team that play decent football.

Coming to us will probably further stunt his progression.