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    [FONT=Geneva,Arial,sans-serif]Source: The Observer[/FONT]

    If Aaron Lennon starts for England against Spain at Old Trafford on Wednesday and reproduces the form he has shown for Spurs recently, Martin Jol will, finally, let the merest smile cross his normally immoveable features. More immediately, the Tottenham head coach would like him to tear Manchester United to shreds at White Hart Lane this afternoon. He is not, though, one to get carried away about the flying winger.

    It is not that the Dutchman does not rate Lennon - on Friday he spoke about him as being in the same class as Cristiano Ronaldo - it is just that, when quizzed about anything to do with his team, his inclination is to leaven his response with negative, downbeat mutterings. He is the Doctor No of football. He does not want to leave the impression of celebrating a Spurs revival prematurely.

    Sometimes you imagine he does not believe the Glory, Glory days will ever return to White Hart Lane, but that would be misleading. Indeed, there are signs that he thinks they are not that far away. Football writers ran a spread bet on the number of 'noes' Jol would deliver during a recent press conference. There was none. He is warming to his task, cautiously but with fewer doubts than at any time of his stewardship.

    Tottenham's mid-table position in the Premiership this morning is unimpressive for a club of their resources - and odds against to improve after they have played United. A draw would be a good result, a home win a surprise to all but those whose allegiances are embroidered in blue and white.

    The leaders, three points clear of Chelsea with a game in hand and unbeaten in the Premiership since losing 3-0 to Aston Villa before Christmas, are on fire; Spurs remain brittle and brilliant, vulnerable and dangerous, often in the space of a few minutes in the same game.

    Jol knows that this unpredictability is what makes them an intriguing team to watch - and opponents of which to be wary. Traditionally, such rollercoaster form has served Spurs well away from the grind of the Premiership. But their exit from the League Cup against the startlingly resilient teenage sprites of Arsenal on Wednesday night invited the familiar shrugs of resignation around N17. How the Gunners loved it as they struggled home through clogged-up roads. It is eight years since they lost to Tottenham.

    That dispiriting performance - desperate, on tired legs at the end and falling short again against their north London tormentors - resembled England's cricketers banging their heads against the Australians this winter. Maybe it was a coincidence, but not long after England had finally managed a win over Australia on Friday morning, Jol was expounding on why Spurs can drag themselves clear of the dross and up to the shoulders of the big four. He sounded almost upbeat.

    He still believes in them - more than ever, it seems. He insists Spurs are more expansive than last year, especially in midfield, a throwback position adopted to such pleasing effect recently in the first half before losing to Newcastle and, last weekend, in walloping Southend in the FA Cup.

    The player who shone more brightly than anyone that day was Lennon, who withdrew with a 24-hour bug on the afternoon of the Arsenal game, before declaring himself well, then unwell again - too late to be replaced in the squad. Un...Jol-like, the Tottenham head coach insisted that had he had Lennon, along with the injured Ledley King (still five weeks away from returning) and Dimitar Berbatov available, 'I'm 100 per cent sure, totally convinced we would have beaten Arsenal, would have been in the final'.

    A mouthwatering comparison is in prospect at White Hart Lane when Ronaldo lines up against Lennon, two scintillating wide attackers, both young, electrically quick and clever.
    Is Lennon as good as Ronaldo, someone wondered? Long, long pause. 'No. He's younger, he has less experience. Ronaldo, he's scored 12, 13 goals already. Lennon didn't. So, let's be honest. Look at the production: Ronaldo is probably the best in England on the wing. With assists, he's probably been involved in 20 goals. Lennon has probably been involved in five or six. But you have to see how many chances Lennon already has created. He's on his way to being, possibly, like Ronaldo.'

    Elsewhere on the realism front, Jol knows Tottenham are seriously weakened by the continued absence of King, their captain, and, as good a job as Robbie Keane is doing in his place, they miss the calm control the England defender provides from the heart of the defence. Michael Dawson did splendidly against Arsenal and Ricardo Rocha, the new Portuguese signing, despite his slip to allow a goal on Wednesday night, is a solid replacement. But Jol wants dominance and strength as well as expansion. He needs a sound midfield voice and, contrary to what some think, the physically imposing Tom Huddlestone is not that man.

    'How many players are there like Ray Wilkins, who was 20, 21 when he was captain of Chelsea?' said Jol. 'In England, it's very difficult if you're 19 or 20 to be a real leader. I have to teach him that he must open his mouth. It's very difficult. He must guard the whole shape of midfield. That is a bit of a problem when [Jermaine] Jenas is going forward and Lennon is always far up the field, [Steed] Malbranque wants to do his dribbling.'

    Sir Alex Ferguson thinks Jol is doing a fine job but he needs more time. 'Tottenham have got the resources and the history that suggests there shouldn't be a gap that is there at the moment and I think the ambitions of Martin Jol are beyond that,' he said. 'He's got ambitions to make them better and you can't just do it in one year. You need four or five years really to implement the vision of the club and the development of the team.' And that neatly describes today's match: the imposing present against the potentially glittering future.

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Discussion in 'Spurscommunity Front Page News' started by gusrowe, Feb 4, 2007.

  1. mawspurs
    Sounds like Jol is planning to mould Tom into a potential captain.

    We can get a result here if we can play like we did in the first half of the goons match at WHL but for the whole match this time.

    That must be the aim, lets get consistent for 90 minutes and then we can think about doing it from game to game.

    COYS
  2. sebo_sek
    This is for al those Jol-bashers. Read it again and slowly: 4-5 years.
    2-1 today. Defoe and Berbatov again
  3. Kurtzen
    "He needs a sound midfield voice"....

    a theme perhaps?
  4. davidmatzdorf
    I had already cut-and-pasted the same paragraph from the article and was about to re-post it, but you got there first.

    If Alex Ferguson thinks Jol needs 4-5 years to get Spurs up to where Man U are now, where the hell are the sloped-forehead brigade here getting all their expertise to think he should be sacked?
  5. davidmatzdorf
    Yes, a theme. This is what Jol has been going on about when he keeps saying that Huddlestone is "one of the best midfielders in the league when he has the ball."

    His positioning and anticipation, as well as his tackling, are miles behind his other skills. And it seems that Jol wants him to start organising people - he's the one midfielder with the best view, after all. A tall order for a 20 year old.
  6. TimJ
    We need to give Huddlestone time to develop. Like Lennon last season, most of us recognise the skill this guy has and hopefully, again like Lennon, he will make great strides over the next twelve months.

    I do worry slightly about his lack of pace but he seams and intellegent player who will learn to play in a way that minimises this. Remember Mr Molby?
  7. davidmatzdorf
    I've thought for ages that Huddlestone should study old tapes of Jan Molby, who was a player I admired enormously - I generally lean toward players who let their brains and the ball do the work, rather than racing about madly, which is also one reason I was (well, am) a great fan of Carrick and Sheringham.

    Molby, for those who don't remember him, was a cumbersome and frankly portly holding, playmaking midfielder for Liverpool whose anticipation, positioning, vision, passing range and authority enabled him to outplay others with twice his pace.

    His skills were exactly those that Huddlestone has to learn. From everything I hear and read of Tom, he seems to be a highly intelligent and studious character who is determined to improve his game through focused hard work, so I'm happy to tolerate his immature mistakes until he turns into what I think he can become.

    As I posted a few weeks ago, we can have him in the reserves, learning slowly and the easy way, or we can have him in the first team, learning fast and the hard way.
  8. GDG
    Very nice to read a well-balanced report - we always moan at how we're represented in the press but I think he's got that spot on.
  9. rooster1
    David I genuinely look forward to reading your posts.
    Now i know it's sunday and you might have a hangover,but
    I'm quite surprised by the phrase 'sloped forehead ' I
    thought that you might be aware of where it comes from
    and who used it for evil like purposes,you could of used
    many words/phrases to call Jolbasher's after all aren't people
    on SC entitled to their opinions,personally I admire Jol
    and what he's achieved so far,but I'm not on the in
    Jol we trust bandwagon until we win something then
    I'll happily jump on it.
    COYS
  10. khop145
    Remembered him. Think he's the one who succeded Souness & continued the Liverpool dominace era from mid till end-80's...
  11. SouthLondonSpur
    He was quality, very clever player. I think he went on to manage Kidderminster, not sure of his success there though. Be very happy if TH turns out to be another Jan!
  12. ridouche
    I am surrounded by people whom the Eng<?xml:namespace prefix = st1 ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:smarttags" /><st1:personName w:st="on">li</st1:personName>sh language is no more then a toy to play with its ambiguity. Some might argue it is its strength. Jol needs 4-5 years to get Spurs up to where Man U are now. Ok I'll give him 10 years but , He needs to show consistency - 1 away win so far -, tactical abi<st1:personName w:st="on">li</st1:personName>ty (with mistakes, no problem), 4-5-1 with Chealski, 4-5-1 with the goons, 4-5-1 with manure... 4-5-1 any top 4. man-management a la pedro and co, drive and guidance to potential outstanding players "the brown love affair" and not play the "legend" of the month, good selection of players <st1:personName w:st="on">li</st1:personName>ke rasiak, some wins in away games and most importantly stop saying No for every question asked. As you see, it is all debatable, some would say we have all the above, others would say none has been shown yet. By the way, I am not a anti-jol, and neither a pro-jol, I am a spurs fan that has learned his trade. I be<st1:personName w:st="on">li</st1:personName>eve Jol has another season anyway, except if the board will surprise us this summer.<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:eek:ffice:eek:ffice" /><o:p></o:p>
  13. davidmatzdorf
    Thanks.

    Nope. That was yesterday morning. :wink:

    No, I have no idea, so educate me. In fact, I thought I invented the phrase "sloped forehead brigade" myself. Where does it some from originally?

    I often use it to mean "stroppy, intellectually challenged headbangers with no patience who squawk 'sack the manager' as soon as we have 3 dodgy results out of 4 matches".

    "SFB" is shorter. In fact, I can think of something else equally appropriate that those initials could stand for.

    You've never seen me use that phrase. He's a promising and still inexperienced manager with a lot to offer, but he's made a lot of tactical errors this season. Like you, when he's proved himself by winning something, then I'll trust his decisions before he's made them. For now, I'll judge them after the match is over.

    Anyway, tell me what I don't know about "SFB".
  14. davidmatzdorf
    I reckon it's fair to say that what we were good at this year, we're weak to at this year and vice versa. I've been meaning to post this for some time.

    Last season:
    Good at toughing out results and winning by the odd goal, resilient defence, shy about going forward, easily beaten by lower division opposition, good in the league but useless in knock-out cups, prone to conceding last-minute deciding goals, good at controlling possession.

    This season:
    Not good at toughing out results and winning by the odd goal, porous defence, much more ambitious about going forward, never beaten by lower division or European opposition, much better in knock-out cups than in the league, not prone to conceding last-minute deciding goals, not good at controlling possession against quality opposition.

    The only thing I can think of that we were not good at last year and also not good at this year is turning chances into goals.
  15. ridouche
    Well formulated! however according to my results

    Last season + This season = 0 or rather approximate it around the + and -.

    we need to move towards the + side of the learning curve if we want to call this am improvement, otherwise this is no more then an overall stagnation.

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