Domenico Berardi

[Dirty Ewok]

So i've read this thread to get an understanding of the player as I only know a little about him..

I've discovered that he's either:
A) A good young talent, with great potential.
B) Completely and utterly crap.

Cheers for clearing that up guys...

You seem ungrateful for this breakdown on his ability.

 

[Syn_13]

Suppose this is where we have to place faith in our scouting and management/coaching. Maybe if these players had realised their potential, they'd already be out of our league financially. However, assuming the potential is still there, and off he back of a season or so where that upward curve has stalled, they suddenly become attainable. The big question has to be, was that hope misplaced, and they've peaked, one for the scouting team to decipher, and secondly, do out coaches believe they can unlock that potential.
Will they be a Danny Rose, a player who was loaned to Sunderland as he'd stalled, but Poch and his gang have polished the talent that was still showing glimpses, into arguably England's premier LB/LWB. Or, will Barkley and Berardi be a Townsend, a player who initially showed signs he was destined to be the next great hope, but ultimately was found to have just peaked early.

That's exactly it. We are the kind of club who have no choice but to take a gamble. Some players we're just priced out of and we have to hope that we can make savvy buys on players with potential in order to unearth the next Modric, Bale, Eriksen, Alli etc. However, for every one of those there will be an Njie, Capoue or Holtby. Just got to take a punt. Even if they don't work out for us it doesn't mean they're poor. Look at Siggy as an example, just not the right club for him.

The other type of signing is the player that's surplus to requirement to the mega clubs but still a top quality player. VdV springs to mind and Arsenal have done this with Ozil and Sanchez. We need to try and exploit that ourselves. Almost did it with Isco last year. Problem is, competition is still fierce and the ridiculously over-inflated prices have held us back. I think Arsenal and Liverpool are very much in the same boat as us, or a similar looking one at least. They're just less cautious and try to fall back on their historical status to attract players.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Reality is, would we rather another season of Sissoko on the right, almost 28 years old and not likely to improve now. Or, a Berardi type player, 5 years younger and still with an opportunity to develop further.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Reality is, would we rather another season of Sissoko on the right, almost 28 years old and not likely to improve now. Or, a Berardi type player, 5 years younger and still with an opportunity to develop further.

Absolutely, but yet the same reality is, would we rather pay over the tops for brilliant but risky Berardi, or pay less for as risky and almost as brilliant Serie A player X?

 

[TheAmerican]

Absolutely, but yet the same reality is, would we rather pay over the tops for brilliant but risky Berardi, or pay less for as risky and almost as brilliant Serie A player X?

It's obvious we aren't looking to improve our starting 11. Anyone we buy will be young and carry risk. If one has been identified as having a higher ceiling than another, than so be it.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

It's obvious we aren't looking to improve our starting 11. Anyone we buy will be young and carry risk. If one has been identified as having a higher ceiling than another, than so be it.

Well, yes, but everything with a price limit, no? The way you know Spurs, do you think they'd take a punt at 30-40 M or 20-25M? I know what I think Levy would do.

 

[GetSpurredOn]

Berardi appears to be a left footed Son. Probably not an outright starter, but someone capable of coming in and offering an alternative outlet, plus between them they'd be the 3rd striking option. Just a guess though.

I think if he's available at around 20-22m, it'll be on. 22/23yrs old, plenty of time to hit his potential, or be sold on before he starts to decline.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Well, yes, but everything with a price limit, no? The way you know Spurs, do you think they'd take a punt at 30-40 M or 20-25M? I know what I think Levy would do.

Maybe in the past, but two years of overachieving and having a very capable manager suggests he might venture into the 30-40 mill deal if the right player is available

 

[KILLA_SIN]

43 Goals and 33 Assists in 111 Serie A games @22. And people think he's shit

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

Maybe in the past, but two years of overachieving and having a very capable manager suggests he might venture into the 30-40 mill deal if the right player is available

Hmmm ... I do see your point fully. In general.
But I'm fully convinced that what one would seek in signing Berardi, and I am all onboard with that btw, but the ideal one would seek, one could get at 40-50 % discount.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

He's amazing on FIFA,fm and that but sadly those games don't relate to real life beradi anymore, man was on fire about 2 years ago!

In real life now I would say he's just a slightly quicker Erik Lamela.

If the price is 25/30 million I'd pass.

I'd rather pay that kind of money for Balde Keita or Felipe Anderson or even more so Callejon.

 

[agrdavidsfan]

Was just wondering actually if that old walls song gives any clues to jj's itk

Walls cornetto....give it to me

 

[Lemon]

43 Goals and 33 Assists in 111 Serie A games @22. And people think he's shit

Plus, he's linked with Real Madrid, Napoli and Inter Milan.

Never seen him play, but if he signs I expect a world class player within 2-3games.

 

[daryl hannah]

Berardi appears to be a left footed Son. Probably not an outright starter, but someone capable of coming in and offering an alternative outlet, plus between them they'd be the 3rd striking option. Just a guess though.

I think if he's available at around 20-22m, it'll be on. 22/23yrs old, plenty of time to hit his potential, or be sold on before he starts to decline.

This is what I saw - and I watched about 5 different highlights vids of him on YT.

Not a perfect player in general play by any means, but he has a great left foot - can put the ball in the box from set pieces, crosses from the wing well and can thump them from range. That said, he seems to have racked up an awful lot of penalties in his lofty goal tallies.

 

[Syn_13]

43 Goals and 33 Assists in 111 Serie A games @22. And people think he's shit

Near enough 2 thirds of Sassuolo's goals when he's played directly involves him. That is very impressive for a youngster. The biggest question, however, is whether he can do that at a bigger club, playing at a higher level and in a more intense league. Add to that the fact that less will go through him as he won't be the big fish. These are things our scouts must take into account (if we truly are scouting him, that is).

 

[KILLA_SIN]

Near enough 2 thirds of Sassuolo's goals when he's played directly involves him. That is very impressive for a youngster. The biggest question, however, is whether he can do that at a bigger club, playing at a higher level and in a more intense league. Add to that the fact that less will go through him as he won't be the big fish. These are things our scouts must take into account (if we truly are scouting him, that is).

Just putting this into the mix but I presume Italian defenses are still better organised and drilled and should also be taken into consideration.

Edit on checking the EPL top ten still conceded less.

 

[Syn_13]

Just putting this into the mix but I presume Italian defenses are still better organised and drilled and should also be taken into consideration.

Not always. Just like the Premier League it depends on if a team has been set up that way. As a general rule I think the defenders are less afraid to play rough and get stuck in (can also add manhandling to that), which is what can make it tough for some attackers.

 

[spacessships]

43 Goals and 33 Assists in 111 Serie A games @22. And people think he's shit

This thread keeps going in circles.

13/14 & 14/15 seasons combined (4857 min)
31 goals (156.67 min/g)
16 assists (303.56 min/a)

15/16 & 16/17 seasons combined (3917 min)
12 goals (326.4 min/g)
14 assists (279.78 min/a)

He is not shit. He is not amazing. He could go on to be either or just somewhere in the middle. Injuries have changed his game and this is worth serious consideration. Players are rarely wholly good or wholly bad.

 

[YiddoTom90]

Keita balde is better. Berardi has stagnated as to why to we are the only ones in for him

 

[HoltbiusMac]

Keita balde is better. Berardi has stagnated as to why to we are the only ones in for him

Other than some very tenuous press links and JJ saying we are generally in for Italian we don't really know we are in for Beradi though. He's just the highest profile name that has pros and cons to debate.