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I would like Mr Levy to stop writing off peoples negative views on the prospect of a Straford Spurs as emotive. I'm not saying that those negative views are not emotive, of course they are, but he should not use that as a stick with which to beat us as without emotion, there is no football. Surely people attend football, support football, and spend hard earned money on football so that they can experience, hopefully, some joy. Sounds like an emotion to me. When I watch a match, I don't watch because so and so cost x amount, or because this stadium has these facilities, or because that player drives this car. I watch football because I love (hey, another emotion) football. I watch Spurs because I love Spurs and they bring me joy.

Sport is emotive. Football is emotive. Tottenham Hotspur Football Club is emotive. The people who pay for the product do it for emotional reasons. If, Daniel, people to stop being emotive, then you can kiss goodbye any chance you have of filling the stadium in Stratford, because their love for the club and the emotion they feel for it is the one thing which will keep them going even after the betrayal of leaving Tottenham.
 
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I've said it before... if I wanted an emotionless experience I'd become a fan of the London Stock Exchange and put the money that I'd spend on football on stocks and shares and shit like that.

Even making a decision to be Pro-Stratford is an emotive one, just the emotions are different.
 

Eric_s

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What do you expect him to say? He knows he is not going to win over the support of every single fan so he must take a strong stand and dismiss the opposing voices.

I belong to the open-to-moving-to-stratford camp.
 

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Unfortunately many of the opposition to the move do use emotive language to aid their arguments which is weaker than the argument for moving.

Karen Brady saying that England will have lied in the Queen's name over the Olympic legacy is emotive and a weak argument. As unless the stadium becomes a sole athletics venue we will have technically lied in the Queen's name anyway as people will not be able to used to facility for training. Something Brady clearly overlooks in what she says.

People saying that we will wreck a community by moving is emotive and weak as the area surrounding WHL will be redeveloped even if we move and the infastructure will be under considerably less strain.

I think Levy means that there is two-sides to every coin, and that we should not allow emotive language to dictate who wins the bid or us bidding at all
 

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BBLG, I understand what you are saying mate. I really do.

My family came from the area, so although I was not born there, my roots are from there. I may live many miles away now, but I understand the veiws and the feelings of every fan who is from the Tottenham area, and ones who were from there but have since moved.

I know the history, my 2 year old son Liam knows the history, (even though he can't repeat it back to me, it's in his mind, I know because i've put it there). I've got the books, I've seen the footage, and it upsets me that we may not be playing there in a few years time.

Putting aside those feelings, if we must move, then we have to believe Daniel Levy, we have to put our trust in him that he is making the right decision for our club.

Now this brings me to Daniel Levy, he is a fan, right, i mean a proper fan, who has now been given the chance to run the club he supports. So if he is a supporter, then he knows everything that I have put in my first paragragh. BUt the problem for him is that aswell as being a supporter, he has the unenviable task of making hard emotive decisions aswell.

We have to try and see it from his side aswell, this could well be heart wrenching for him as well as us, but he is also trying to do the best for the club aswell, so is trying to distance himself from the emotion side of it so as not to cloud his judgement.

I don't know if what I have typed here makes sense, but it made sense in my mind
 

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BBLG, I understand what you are saying mate. I really do.

My family came from the area, so although I was not born there, my roots are from there. I may live many miles away now, but I understand the veiws and the feelings of every fan who is from the Tottenham area, and ones who were from there but have since moved.

I know the history, my 2 year old son Liam knows the history, (even though he can't repeat it back to me, it's in his mind, I know because i've put it there). I've got the books, I've seen the footage, and it upsets me that we may not be playing there in a few years time.

Putting aside those feelings, if we must move, then we have to believe Daniel Levy, we have to put our trust in him that he is making the right decision for our club.

Now this brings me to Daniel Levy, he is a fan, right, i mean a proper fan, who has now been given the chance to run the club he supports. So if he is a supporter, then he knows everything that I have put in my first paragragh. BUt the problem for him is that aswell as being a supporter, he has the unenviable task of making hard emotive decisions aswell.

We have to try and see it from his side aswell, this could well be heart wrenching for him as well as us, but he is also trying to do the best for the club aswell, so is trying to distance himself from the emotion side of it so as not to cloud his judgement.

I don't know if what I have typed here makes sense, but it made sense in my mind
Makes sense to me mate... Rep coming your way
 

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He's using it as a tactic to win the bid. He's not saying football isn't about emotion and what fans feel doesn't matter. He's just push the OPLC to decide on their criteria as opposed to political pressure.
 

ethanedwards

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Unfortunately many of the opposition to the move do use emotive language to aid their arguments which is weaker than the argument for moving.

Karen Brady saying that England will have lied in the Queen's name over the Olympic legacy is emotive and a weak argument. As unless the stadium becomes a sole athletics venue we will have technically lied in the Queen's name anyway as people will not be able to used to facility for training. Something Brady clearly overlooks in what she says.

People saying that we will wreck a community by moving is emotive and weak as the area surrounding WHL will be redeveloped even if we move and the infastructure will be under considerably less strain.

I think Levy means that there is two-sides to every coin, and that we should not allow emotive language to dictate who wins the bid or us bidding at all
Good post mate, Levy wanted the emotion out of the argument and to be judged on merit, Brady a fifth rate drama queen.
 

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I've said it before... if I wanted an emotionless experience I'd become a fan of the London Stock Exchange and put the money that I'd spend on football on stocks and shares and shit like that.

Even making a decision to be Pro-Stratford is an emotive one, just the emotions are different.
Believe me, putting your money in the roller coaster stocks and shares is very much emotional. Especially when you are on the wrong side :cry:
 

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I would like Mr Levy to stop writing off peoples negative views on the prospect of a Straford Spurs as emotive. I'm not saying that those negative views are not emotive, of course they are, but he should not use that as a stick with which to beat us as without emotion, there is no football. Surely people attend football, support football, and spend hard earned money on football so that they can experience, hopefully, some joy. Sounds like an emotion to me. When I watch a match, I don't watch because so and so cost x amount, or because this stadium has these facilities, or because that player drives this car. I watch football because I love (hey, another emotion) football. I watch Spurs because I love Spurs and they bring me joy.

Sport is emotive. Football is emotive. Tottenham Hotspur Football Club is emotive. The people who pay for the product do it for emotional reasons. If, Daniel, people to stop being emotive, then you can kiss goodbye any chance you have of filling the stadium in Stratford, because their love for the club and the emotion they feel for it is the one thing which will keep them going even after the betrayal of leaving Tottenham.
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Just as a point BBLG you are guilty yourself of being very emotive in your use of the word "betrayl" as for some this may seem that way but for many others it will simply be a unfortunate necessity of business
 

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Lets be frank, apart from emotional attachment for some, what has N17 got to offer Spurs.

I am not denying that i haven't an emotional attachment with the Lane,
but i also think we have thrown in the towel a little too early in terms of NDP.

Are you admitting that you have no emotion as a spurs supporter regarding WHL?I can't relate to fans that would not fight to stay in n17, i don't really believe something that was on so recently, has become a big No, almost overnight.
 

$hoguN

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I am not denying that i haven't an emotional attachment with the Lane,
but i also think we have thrown in the towel a little too early in terms of NDP.

Are you admitting that you have no emotion as a spurs supporter regarding WHL?I can't relate to fans that would not fight to stay in n17, i don't really believe something that was on so recently, has become a big No, almost overnight.
To be honest, I can't see us throwing the towel in early over the NDP without some sort of reason, as Levy is not one to be parted with money easily
 
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Just as a point BBLG you are guilty yourself of being very emotive in your use of the word "betrayl" as for some this may seem that way but for many others it will simply be a unfortunate necessity of business
I was aware of that irony, it was quite deliberate :D
 
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It seems some are more prone to 'emotive' sympathies than others, speaking personally I find it quite easy to set all that baggage to one side when it comes to greater good of THFC. Tottenham the place means far less to me than THFC the idea but I understand that others who live in the area are likely to feel different.
 

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Well I'm 40 and all my emotions are for the club, the players, the fans and the football we play. I don't have any emotion for the bricks and mortar in Tottenham. Yes I have many good memories from the lane Uefa Cup final etc. I also have many good memories at other grounds, however the common denominator has always been that my team were playing.
 
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