England manager Sam Allardyce for sale

[Archibald&Crooks]

And people wonder why levy distances our managers from the actual financial negotiations of transfer deals.

I've seen nobody moaning about that and if they have its a very small minoroty.........has this come from the Hans Christian Andersen book of Levy soundbites?

That's as far as i'll bite because i'm not sure you actually know or care what the actual beef people have with Levy is. Not to mention this isn't the thread for it.

*Warns self for spamming thread

 

[danielneeds]

Smells of bullshit to me, he would've known exactly what this meeting was about, and anyone who believes this 'favour to a friend' guff is being extremely naive IMO.
I'm fully expecting more shit to come his way as I expect him to be one of the 8 managers involved in taking bungs.
I'm guessing here, but I'd imagine the FA already have been told this by the Telegraph, and got shot as quickly as possible.

A couple of different journos were saying after yesterday's 'sting' that although he was in the wrong, what he'd done didn't warrant sacking, and to an extent I kinda agree with that.....but the speed of his exit leads me to believe the shit hasn't really hit the fan....yet.

The investigation has been going on for ten months....long before he got the England gig.
So he might've cut all involvement but that doesn't mean he hasn't got skeletons in the closet from his time at Sunderland and before.
Weren't they pretty busy in the January transfer window?

As I said, of course he's been brown bagging in the past, but then it was endemic in the previous generation of British managers. Sam, Harry, Pulis, Warnock, the list goes on and on. Let's face it if Fergie wasn't untouchable, there would have been more questions asked about some of his dodgy transfers and his family members acting as "agents" than that single Panorama prog.

I would have put Sam's past in the past, and I'm sure he probably wanted too, but his bad choice of inner circle, hubris got to him IMO.

 

[Tucker]

So what's all this about other managers taking bungs then? Who else is for the chop?

 

[WorcesterTHFC]

It was entrapment, pure and simple. Sam was a straight-dealing law-abiding saint before he agreed to that meeting. You do know that to prepare himself for the meeting he had to google 'shady deals' because up until that point he knew nothing about getting around the 3rd party ownership rules?

If Big Sam was a Saint, how come Liverpool never hired him?

 

[soup]

I did have a bit of sympathy for him, only because I can imagine what a fool he feels right now and how much regret he's got to deal with.

But on the other hand, he was just plain stupid. It's like me getting a job as a manager of a shop, and then arranging a meeting with the local shoplifters to suggest how to best avoid the video cameras and remove security tags, for a quick buck on the side.

You wouldn't catch me trying to blame the shoplifters for 'entrapment'. I'd just blame myself for being a greedy, stupid fool.

 

[worcestersauce]

I'm not sure he has done anything wrong even if he has done something that transgressed the FA's standard of behavior but Allerdyce has always been about making money.
Football has always been his business and he has always looked at ways of making more money for his business, nothing wrong with that of course but it explains his thinking when he has the opportunity to make another half a million.
Wasn't his son an agent?

 

[max cady]

Would anyone seriously want the England job?

nice little earner in abrown paperbag thats why

 

[ClintEastwould]

Isn't Falcao owned by 3rd parties? Chelsea and Man United seem to have got around that alright.

Loan

 

[danielneeds]

I'm not sure he has done anything wrong even if he has done something that transgressed the FA's standard of behavior but Allerdyce has always been about making money.
Football has always been his business and he has always looked at ways of making more money for his business, nothing wrong with that of course but it explains his thinking when he has the opportunity to make another half a million.
Wasn't his son an agent?

Once you get past the headlines and look at the Telegraph transcript
of the meeting he's actually guilty of very little other than being a pompous twat. The stuff about Enner Valencia and the third party dealing is him just explaining that West Ham bought out the other owners when they bought him.

Obviously the Telegraph had other info the led them to him, but if any of it was based on hard evidence wouldn't they have printed it already?

 

[yankspurs]

Would anyone seriously want the England job?

No one besides this one manager whose a triffic manager with a triffic run abat abit style whose win ratio is at a top six club was second to none

 

[KingKay]

No one besides this one manager whose a triffic manager with a triffic run abat abit style whose win ratio is at a top six club was second to none

Imagine the dirt they'd dig up on 'arry ...

 

[nailsy]

Loan

Yes, but is that one of the ways round the ownership rules that he was talking about? You don't actually buy the player, you just pay a huge loan fee instead.

 

[Dougal]

 

[rossdapep]

Remember when Steve Kean called Allardyce a crook?

 

[rossdapep]

I think so.


"The chairman knows what is happening. He knows what his manager is doing. He knows that if he gives in and sells the player, then the manager will spend the money.

That’s not an inherently bad thing. His problem is that he knows where that money is going.

He knows that if the manager is given the money, he will only buy players that are brought to the club through his agent and, in the process, he will pocket a wacking great windfall through cuts of the transfer fee that he’ll split with his agent.

The chairman knows this and is digging his heels in..."


Read more at http://www.thesecretfootballer.com/...anager-transfer-standoff/#Y0Y7Xblwwd3j9L2B.99

Quite the revelation that. So when the public criticise the chairmen for not splashing the cash, it may on occasion be due to other forces at work. This needs to be completely eradicated from the game. Start to impose permanent bans for those caught in the act, that'll learn them.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

It's OK. It's OK. He admitted "error of judgment".
All is forgiven, surely.

 

[edson]

https://www.facebook.com/www.JOE.co.uk/videos/vb.365076723656400/746394582191277/?type=2&theater

 

[ikky]

 

[beats1]

Isn't Falcao owned by 3rd parties? Chelsea and Man United seem to have got around that alright.

No, Monaco brought him outright

 

[KingNothing]

I imagine this is how it went with having Big Sam and his "buddies" at a restaurant