Euro 2016 Day 2 - Alb v Swi, Wal v Slo & Eng v Rus

[Dundalk_Spur]

1. Sterling doesn't have a footballing brain, he is a guy that can run fast with a ball at this feet, maybe he should have gone to Rio instead of France??

2. Bringing Milner on and commentators say oh he was an ever present in the previous two England campaigns. How well did they go? Hardly a glowing endorsement.

Roy started well then fell back into a negative mentality.
Proud of th Spurs boys did themselves no harm at all.

 

[NickHSpurs]

Alli needs to play closer to Kane, they've shown all season they're on the same wave length, won't happen with the current shape ans squad though.

Team should have been:

Hart
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier Wilshere
Sterling Alli Townsend
Kane

Right players, right positions.

But with no Townsend and no other natural winger and Roy insisting on playing Rooney (although he did alright last night) we're stuck with a disjointed side.

With the current squad my preferred side would be:

Hart
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier Wilshere
Rooney Alli Sturridge
Kane

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Alli needs to play closer to Kane, they've shown all season they're on the same wave length, won't happen with the current shape ans squad though.

Team should have been:

Hart
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier Wilshere
Sterling Alli Townsend
Kane

Right players, right positions.

But with no Townsend and no other natural winger and Roy insisting on playing Rooney (although he did alright last night) we're stuck with a disjointed side.

With the current squad my preferred side would be:

Hart
Walker Cahill Smalling Rose
Dier Wilshere
Rooney Alli Sturridge
Kane

1. Why do you want to switch to 4-2-3-1 when 4-3-3 has worked so well for England?
2. How can you talk about 'right players, right positions' and then complain about a disjointed side- and go on to say with the current side your preferred team would have Rooney on the right and Sturridge on the left (even if you meant the other sides my point stands)

 

[nailsy]

I think that the talent is there but too many egos and a poor (imo) manager who is just an FA yes man.

All players that were involved in the fiasco at the World cup should never wear an England shirt again let alone captain one. Too many of the players think they are bigger than the team and I would rather they rebuild from scratch and lose a few tournaments if it sends a clear message to the spoiled idiots we have playing (new faces excepted) that mediocrity is not accepted. Rooney the captain after spitting at fans?

Todays performance was a joke and way below what England are capable of. At the top level you just can't waste so many chances!!! I just don't see any desire to win and win big. The majority just see content to coast along and see what happens . I truly hope they pick up their game and prove me wrong as I want England to win. I just don't see it happening as the mindset feels wrong to me.

Seriously? We outplayed them for 85 minutes. We pressed, everyone worked hard, I didn't see any egos out there.

We didn't really make enough chances for Kane, but it's pretty much the first time we've played that formation. Hopefully we'll grow into it.

And I don't know why Sterling I'd being called a disgrace by some people. He didn't do anything terrible, he didn't dive, or get sent off, he had a pretty poor second half where he didn't really seem to know how to use the ball, but his pace was still causing problems. Maybe Sturridge could play there next match?

 

[WiganSpur]

Sterling was OK at first but he faded badly.

Roy should have brought Rashford or Vardy on for him, especially when it got to 1-0 and sacrificed Alli for Wilshere

 

[Shea]

I really think the assessment of Harry Kane was unfair/Harsh

I don't think he had a poor game at all

He worked hard, one many knock ons and flicks, linked up play well

He was deprived of any direct service from the likes of Sterling and Llalana, he was reduced to long shots and half chances all night

The only thing you could say was perhaps (at a stretch) he could have been better placed a couple of times for the balls lashed across the face of goal

One time for example - Llalana made a great run in to the box (I think picking up a walker or alli pull back pass) and lashed his shot wide. His effort was poor and his angle was difficult, the only way he could have scored was to have curled it with the outside of his foot in toward the far post.....he could have instead played a clever through ball between the defender on his left and the keeper in to the path of the unmarked Kane for a tap in open goal

Had Kane scored yesterday playing exactly the same game he did all these commentators talking about how he didn't have his best game and was disappointing etc would have been sucking his dick and talking about what a complete CF he is and how integral he is to England's play

In my opinion the problem was Roy kept Llanna and or Sterling on way too long when it was clear they had run out of ideas or steam and were failing to make any impact in to the Russian final third in the second half. Vardy should have come on for one of them to support Kane up top in my opinion

I'm no expert of course, but that's my 2 pennies based on what I saw

 

[teok]

Seriously? We outplayed them for 85 minutes. We pressed, everyone worked hard, I didn't see any egos out there.

We didn't really make enough chances for Kane, but it's pretty much the first time we've played that formation. Hopefully we'll grow into it.

And I don't know why Sterling I'd being called a disgrace by some people. He didn't do anything terrible, he didn't dive, or get sent off, he had a pretty poor second half where he didn't really seem to know how to use the ball, but his pace was still causing problems. Maybe Sturridge could play there next match?

Yeah I think there are some emotional reactions here.

 

[nailsy]

I really think the assessment of Harry Kane was unfair/Harsh

I don't think he had a poor game at all

He worked hard, one many knock ons and flicks, linked up play well

He was deprived of any direct service from the likes of Sterling and Llalana, he was reduced to long shots and half chances all night

The only thing you could say was perhaps (at a stretch) he could have been better placed a couple of times for the balls lashed across the face of goal

One time for example - Llalana made a great run in to the box (I think picking up a walker or alli pull back pass) and lashed his shot wide. His effort was poor and his angle was difficult, the only way he could have scored was to have curled it with the outside of his foot in toward the far post.....he could have instead played a clever through ball between the defender on his left and the keeper in to the path of the unmarked Kane for a tap in open goal

Had Kane scored yesterday playing exactly the same game he did all these commentators talking about how he didn't have his best game and was disappointing etc would have been sucking his dick and talking about what a complete CF he is and how integral he is to England's play

In my opinion the problem was Roy kept Llanna and or Sterling on way too long when it was clear they had run out of ideas or steam and were failing to make any impact in to the Russian final third in the second half. Vardy should have come on for one of them to support Kane up top in my opinion

I'm no expert of course, but that's my 2 pennies based on what I saw

Most reports that I've read have said that he was starved of service and therefore couldn't contribute as much as usual which is fair enough. Quite a few of then have said that he'll deliver if he gets a chance as well. I can only remember one chance for him last night and it was well blocked by the defender.

 

[Shea]

Most reports that I've read have said that he was starved of service and therefore couldn't contribute as much as usual which is fair enough. Quite a few of then have said that he'll deliver if he gets a chance as well. I can only remember one chance for him last night and it was well blocked by the defender.

I'm only basing it on what the likes of Lee Dixon and whoever else was in the studio post match were saying and what a couple of my friends were saying last night

I haven't read anything about the match beyond that to be fair - thanks for enlightening me

 

[nailsy]

I'm only basing it on what the likes of Lee Dixon and whoever else was in the studio post match were saying and what a couple of my friends were saying last night

I haven't read anything about the match beyond that to be fair - thanks for enlightening me

I can't remember what Dixon said. Crouchy was very supportive.

 

[Shea]

I can't remember what Dixon said. Crouchy was very supportive.

People were just saying everyone played well except Kane who didn't have his best game

Then they were questioning whether Vardy or Sturridge should have been brought on for Kane because he was off form

I think Wright then said only Sterling had a poor game and said nothing negative about Kane

But the overall opinion of Kane's game seemed to be rather negative to me and personally I thought he had a good game and had he scored without changing anything else about his gameplay they all would have been raving about him

 

[NickHSpurs]

1. Why do you want to switch to 4-2-3-1 when 4-3-3 has worked so well for England?
2. How can you talk about 'right players, right positions' and then complain about a disjointed side- and go on to say with the current side your preferred team would have Rooney on the right and Sturridge on the left (even if you meant the other sides my point stands)

Has it worked well though? Against poor opposition and in friendlies maybe. First sign of a competitive game against an average Russian side and we only manage one goal and concede late. No matter how "unlucky" we were it was a disappointing result.

My second point was the XI has to be disjointed now due to the squad Hodgson picked and the way he picks names.

Rooney, Alli and Lallana would arguably all suit best behind Kane and Sterling was playing on the left, so there's 4 players outside of their best position in our tournament opener.

 

[DEFchenkOE]

Has it worked well though? Against poor opposition and in friendlies maybe. First sign of a competitive game against an average Russian side and we only manage one goal and concede late. No matter how "unlucky" we were it was a disappointing result.

My second point was the XI has to be disjointed now due to the squad Hodgson picked and the way he picks names.

Rooney, Alli and Lallana would arguably all suit best behind Kane and Sterling was playing on the left, so there's 4 players outside of their best position in our tournament opener.

What's Sterling's best position? For Liverpool and Man C he has often played on the left.

 

[THFCSPURS19]

Has it worked well though? Against poor opposition and in friendlies maybe. First sign of a competitive game against an average Russian side and we only manage one goal and concede late. No matter how "unlucky" we were it was a disappointing result.

My second point was the XI has to be disjointed now due to the squad Hodgson picked and the way he picks names.

Rooney, Alli and Lallana would arguably all suit best behind Kane and Sterling was playing on the left, so there's 4 players outside of their best position in our tournament opener.

Yes, it has worked well. We played great against Germany, the world champions, and we did yesterday. The result was shitty and infuriating but we still played very well.

 

[yawa]

Yes, it has worked well. We played great against Germany, the world champions, and we did yesterday. The result was shitty and infuriating but we still played very well.

Exactly. If we had wOn that 3-0 I don't anyone would have been shocked.

Only player I'd replace for the next game would be Sterling.

 

[Gbspurs]

We drew the first game in Euro 1996 too. 2nd match against home nation then as well. Performance was decent too so all still looking positive.

 

[Sandros Shiny Head]

What's Sterling's best position? For Liverpool and Man C he has often played on the left.

His best position would be in a plane back to England, he has undeniable pace but the shooting power of Aaron Lennon and the first touch of someone wearing a blindfold

 

[thinktank]

Has Neil Lennon been on the botox?

 

[thinktank]

Kinell BBC.

 

[ItsBoris]

England left most of their fire power on the bench in order to play Sterling and Lallana, who are decent players but aren't great goalscorers and didn't do much creatively. I would say go with a front 3 of Sturridge, Kane, and Vardy, and then you have players with plenty of pace who can stretch the defense, but who are also goalscorers.