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Nah no that’s fixed is it4 big teams kept apart
Nah no that’s fixed is it4 big teams kept apart
i'd love to see any statisticians on here provide the odds on all 4 'big' teams avoiding each other in effectively an 8 team draw. regardless, great draw for us.
Not as low as you think. Even though there are four of each, once a big team comes out of the hat, there are only 3 other big teams compared to 4 others they can draw since they can't get themselves, so there is counter-intuitively a less than 50% chance they play another big team. What's more, as the draw goes on it gets less likely, not more, that the big teams draw each other - as one gets removed each time, the effect the previous factor has increases since you're dealing with 'smaller fractions'.
First big team out has a 4 in 7 chance of a non-big team.
Second has 3 in 5.
Third has 2 in 3.
Fourth has a 1 in 1, or 100% - there are no big teams left!
The chance of a draw like this, then, where no big teams face each other is (4/7) * (3/5) * (2/3), or just under 23%. Remember also that if the big teams had drawn each other, there's a greater than 50% chance that'd be because we picked out one of the bigger sides, which is obviously a much worse result for us in terms of chances of progressing! A draw like this at this stage in the tournament isn't the best result for us, but it is a fairly good one.
For me it's Leicester or Brighton v Southampton or UsSemi finals...
Manchester Utd or City vs Chelsea or us
For me it's Leicester or Brighton v Southampton or Us
FFS, celebrating a draw when we still have to win tomorrow’s match.
I hope to fuck the team aren’t that arrogant.
Its fixing a problem that nobody really thinks is a problem.I am starting to notice a real pushback against VAR, it’s not perfect yet but it is nowhere near as bad as the critics are making it out to be.
Its fixing a problem that nobody really thinks is a problem.
Football is about passion. Its about performance. Its about poetry in motion. Its the highs and the lows. Its about grey areas.
VAR is about precision. Its about millimeters. Its about snapshots, and viewing things in slow motion.
Do the officials get every call correct? Of course not. They never have. Does that ruin the game? Of course not.
VAR will never get all of the calls correct either. No matter how much you slow the video, or how many views you see, there are calls that will be inconclusive, and calls that are subjective. And the cost to trying to fix the problem nobody really wants to fix, is that it slows the game down.
I am opposed to VAR, but recognize that its probably not going away entirely. But, if it stays, the system should be modified such that a single official reviews the game only for "clear and obvious" errors. And those errors should be spotted immediately - because they are clear and obvious. It it requires a slow-motion replay and freeze frame to spot - then its not a "clear and obvious" error. And if it takes more than 20 seconds - its not clear and convincing - move on.
Stick with goal line technology - which is unobtrusive to the match. Leave the rest to the match officials. They do a pretty good job.
And there we have it, all four big clubs in the last 8 and none of them play each other.Well we've had a free ride in CL with BD, RM and Juventus so hopefully we'll only have to beat Man U and Liverpool or Chelsea to get to Man City in the final
This is it, it works much better in sports where there are a lot of stop/starts naturally in the game...cricket/rugby etc.Its fixing a problem that nobody really thinks is a problem.
Football is about passion. Its about performance. Its about poetry in motion. Its the highs and the lows. Its about grey areas.
VAR is about precision. Its about millimeters. Its about snapshots, and viewing things in slow motion.
Do the officials get every call correct? Of course not. They never have. Does that ruin the game? Of course not.
VAR will never get all of the calls correct either. No matter how much you slow the video, or how many views you see, there are calls that will be inconclusive, and calls that are subjective. And the cost to trying to fix the problem nobody really wants to fix, is that it slows the game down.
I am opposed to VAR, but recognize that its probably not going away entirely. But, if it stays, the system should be modified such that a single official reviews the game only for "clear and obvious" errors. And those errors should be spotted immediately - because they are clear and obvious. It it requires a slow-motion replay and freeze frame to spot - then its not a "clear and obvious" error. And if it takes more than 20 seconds - its not clear and convincing - move on.
Stick with goal line technology - which is unobtrusive to the match. Leave the rest to the match officials. They do a pretty good job.
Can I ask does ANYONE think VAR will continue in its current state?
It wont.
Calm down.
I'm pro VAR but if they were trying their best to make a complete fkin shambles of it they're doing a bang up job. Incompetence of the highest order.
Somehow the game has managed up until now without the use of VAR.
Supporters of it are going well over the top with how much it is needed. It’s not needed at all
No I didn't . I was pointing out that having the draw on a Saturday night before two of the games had even been played was ruining tradition just for the sake of BT's money.This is it, it works much better in sports where there are a lot of stop/starts naturally in the game...cricket/rugby etc.
At least with cricket they allow for a margin of umpire error, if its that close....and that decision last night was so close its bordering on pedantic, I don't understand this sudden urge to try and make every decision 100% right down to the attackers kneecap/nipple being a few millimeters offside.
Its unnecessary, it wasn't a clear and obvious error, and it isn't needed....and in its current implementation completely kills the flow of the game.
We've got on fine without it for a hundred odd years.
I had a bit of a laugh with @Grey Fox last night as he thought that the FACup draw on a Saturday night was killing the game...this VAR mess is much more of a threat Imo.
Regardless, my point was that these are very minor things in comparison to the implementation of VAR, which is directly affecting the way the game is played on the field, and viewed by spectators/TV audiences.No I didn't . I was pointing out that having the draw on a Saturday night before two of the games had even been played was ruining tradition just for the sake of BT's money.
This sort of thing is why the FA cup has lost its glamour the same as having the semi-finals at Wembley.