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FACT: In the near future, we will be bigger than Liverpool

Frozen_Waffles

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Bigger in terms of what fan base? No... revenue? No... history? No...... stadium? No... Trophys... No

Even if we get a bigger stadium we will still be the smaller club. I hate Liverpool as much as the next man but come on lets get a realistic. We will be challenging with them Southampton and Swansea next season for EL entry.
 

Hoops

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oohaahedgar

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Bigger in terms of what fan base? No... revenue? No... history? No...... stadium? No... Trophys... No

Even if we get a bigger stadium we will still be the smaller club. I hate Liverpool as much as the next man but come on lets get a realistic. We will be challenging with them Southampton and Swansea next season for EL entry.
A bit harsh, we were bigger than them until 1970 so I don't think it's unreasonable to think that when we get the new stadium we can be again, in time obviously. Also London and Liverpool have grown miles further apart in the last 20 years.
 

StartingPrice

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TBF to the OP - don't no why, he gives me serial negs for some reason :) - I think a lot of the negative responses have focused too much on the term bigger. Perhaps better wording would have been in a better position than them going forward. And when you put it this way, I think he is right.

True they have greater revenues than us - they are the sixth best financed club in the EPL, we are the sixth best. But the gap in revenues has halved in the last decade. We have finished above them for the fifth time in six seasons. We are building a bigger stadium (not if we are), and not only will it not be a cobbled together effort like their proposed development, but it will also be bigger (maybe not by that much, but it's not the point). And it will be state of the art, with accompanying developments, in a way that just adding a bit on to Anfield never can be. We have the state-of-the-art training centre - and that's a definite attraction. We stole a march on them in revamping our youth set-up and it's starting to pay dividends. Judging on finishing above them (again) you would have to guess we have at least as good a squad (I think it's better, but I'm biased), and most of our first team this season are under 25 (some considerably so). We are much more tightly run, financially: we did the whole revamping, debt reduction, wages in line with revenues, thang more than a decade ago, they are just doing it. And even so, the minute they imagined they had a chance of becoming title challengers again, when trying to keep up with United had got them in the sh*t anyway, they ditched that to offer Suarez Citeh/Chelsea level wages, and now they are in danger of doing the same with Sterling. Gerard is retiring, too, so that is another one of their best players leaving.

In their favour, we have a good history but it doesn't match theirs - players are far more likely to sign for a club for massive wages or the chance of winning something, though. They have a bigger fan-base, but the global element of that could melt away in time. If they continue their recent decline, kids in Soweto and Singapore aren't going to support them just because their Dad's (or Mum's) did. International fans can be very fickle or not quite get the sense of rivalry, and will often support more than one team, sometimes local rivals too.

All-in-all, we may not be bigger than them, but we once were, and where they had an epoch of tremendous, unprecedented success, we have every right to at least aspire to the same. And in the World of here-and-now, we have a lot going in our favour when compared to them. I would go so far as to say, yes, we are in a better position than them right now.
 

willy white wonka

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First of all hi everyone I'm a newbie here... I sincerely hope we are one day bigger and better than Pool and the stadium will certainly go some way to achieving that, however we don't have their history, otherwise I think one day we can usurp them. Certainly they're proving nearly as erratic as us! Nice feeling topping them this season, though that's partly due to them imploding in recent weeks.
 

bubble07

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We have finished in the top 5 in seven of the last 10 seasons and liverpool only five. The gap is close
 

StartingPrice

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First of all hi everyone I'm a newbie here... I sincerely hope we are one day bigger and better than Pool and the stadium will certainly go some way to achieving that, however we don't have their history, otherwise I think one day we can usurp them. Certainly they're proving nearly as erratic as us! Nice feeling topping them this season, though that's partly due to them imploding in recent weeks.

We imploded too...it's just that the Mickey's implosion was more monumental :)
 

Hoops

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Bigger in terms of what fan base? No... revenue? No... history? No...... stadium? No... Trophys... No

Even if we get a bigger stadium we will still be the smaller club. I hate Liverpool as much as the next man but come on lets get a realistic. We will be challenging with them Southampton and Swansea next season for EL entry.

Anyone remember Saint Etienne? Or Pro Vicelli?
 

TottenhamMattSpur

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A bit harsh, we were bigger than them until 1970 so I don't think it's unreasonable to think that when we get the new stadium we can be again, in time obviously. Also London and Liverpool have grown miles further apart in the last 20 years.
Football has changed beyond recognition since then, so much so that I doubt many clubs short of city or Chelsea have any chance of matching what Liverpool have achieved.

And I'm pretty sure they'd won more titles than us by 1961.
 

myhartlane

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I couldn't be arsed to read all this tripe but an outsider reading the title of this tread and a few of the posts would think that we're deluded.

How we would laugh if West Ham fans were comparing their status and achievements with ours. As annoying as Liverpool are, and as shit as they've been for the past decade or so, to the untrained eye, they would appear to be a bigger club, certainly in terms of achievements.

As we know, the game is all about glory not balance sheets or shirts sold in Malaysia or any other spurious metric.
 
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whitestreak

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Oh Brendon, "any team that spends 100m needs to challenge for the title...." ouch ....and "we are not doing a spurs"
smug bastard...instant karma .these words came back to haunt him!
so far he's spent 214m will they give him another £100m this summer?
 
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TottenhamMattSpur

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First of all hi everyone I'm a newbie here... I sincerely hope we are one day bigger and better than Pool and the stadium will certainly go some way to achieving that, however we don't have their history, otherwise I think one day we can usurp them. Certainly they're proving nearly as erratic as us! Nice feeling topping them this season, though that's partly due to them imploding in recent weeks.
Actually, they had a pretty weak start to the season too.
Thought Rogers was under serious pressure before December then they went on a great run then fell apart.
 
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