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Florian Thauvin

spurs9

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I would love it if we signed Thauvin. He is a great dribbler, can get through crowded areas easily, can go on the outside and cross, or inside and pass/shoot has decent pace, can use both feet, makes runs in behind, is hard working, he does have a lot to learn and a lot of improving still but would be an immediate upgrade on Townsend and Lamela.
 

JonnySpurs

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I was watching BT Sport last night, specifically the European Football Show, and Julien Laurens was saying that Marseille have burnt out under Bielsa. By all accounts this is just par for the course for his teams because he always pushes them too hard.

Can't lie, it did set of some alarm bells for me with our performances prior to Newcastle. Poch is a student of the Bielsa method and a Saints fan did warn me that we might burn out. Having said that, considering the amount of games we've played I think we still look relatively fresh and had good running in us yesterday.

The reason I bring this up is that I wonder if any Marseille players would want to come to Spurs if they know that Poch is similar in his philosophy to Bielsa. I would hope that they would as we are being linked with Ayew, Thauvin and Gignac at the moment.
 

MattPhilpott

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Would take Thauvin happily, a good talent with a good turn of pace and a load of tricks up his sleeve, would be very happy if we signed him..

Same goes for Ayew, think the 2 are interchangable and they both offer alternatives which we have needed a lot this season.

As for Gignac, I know he has been performing well in France and is only being kept out of the national side by Lacazette and Benzema (Fair enough). If he was available for nothing I would be happy to have him, although he may not be younger than Bobby and Ade, he can't really do any worse than the pair of them...
 

Dharmabum

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I was watching BT Sport last night, specifically the European Football Show, and Julien Laurens was saying that Marseille have burnt out under Bielsa. By all accounts this is just par for the course for his teams because he always pushes them too hard.

Can't lie, it did set of some alarm bells for me with our performances prior to Newcastle. Poch is a student of the Bielsa method and a Saints fan did warn me that we might burn out. Having said that, considering the amount of games we've played I think we still look relatively fresh and had good running in us yesterday.

The reason I bring this up is that I wonder if any Marseille players would want to come to Spurs if they know that Poch is similar in his philosophy to Bielsa. I would hope that they would as we are being linked with Ayew, Thauvin and Gignac at the moment.

I think it's more about the personality than the style of play.
Why doesn't the Barca players burn out at the end of every season: they - with Real M and Bayern M. players- play more games season after season after season than any other teams. And Barca's style is not about "letting the ball do the job" - they also play a high-pressing game; and their players are known to run more/longer, on average, than most any other teams in Europe.
 
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Blackcanary

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I was watching BT Sport last night, specifically the European Football Show, and Julien Laurens was saying that Marseille have burnt out under Bielsa. By all accounts this is just par for the course for his teams because he always pushes them too hard.

Can't lie, it did set of some alarm bells for me with our performances prior to Newcastle. Poch is a student of the Bielsa method and a Saints fan did warn me that we might burn out. Having said that, considering the amount of games we've played I think we still look relatively fresh and had good running in us yesterday.

The reason I bring this up is that I wonder if any Marseille players would want to come to Spurs if they know that Poch is similar in his philosophy to Bielsa. I would hope that they would as we are being linked with Ayew, Thauvin and Gignac at the moment.

I think that's probably precisely why we're looking at Marseille players, as we know they can adapt to Poch's methods. We actually play a less extreme version of Bielsa's style, which I think is why we look less exhausted (or Poch may have better conditioning methods perhaps). Marseille started this season like a steam train and then crashed and burned spectacularly (their dreadful away form is also a massive factor in how they've slid down the table).

Just on your point about whether they'd want to come to us to play in a similar way - although this season will probably end badly for them, Bielsa's introduction has re-energised the club and got them competing at the top in a way they haven't been previously for a while. The vast majority of them seem to have really adapted to his methods but I suppose the poor end to the season may compromise whether they see his 'style' as something they're willing to buy into long term.
 

Japhet

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Don't know much about him other than that he reminds me of Lamela (pre Spurs) which doesn't inspire huge confidence.
 

Japhet

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What about him reminds you of Lamela?[/QUOTE



Looks capable of tearing up a rather docile League but also seems wasteful with possession. Just reminds me of what Lamela was doing in Italy.
 

spurs9

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For me though, the big difference is pace, dribbling ability in tight spaces, ability to use both feet well and willingness to go on the outside as well as cut in, which is why I think he would be an improvement in our league in the wide positions over Lamela.
 

Japhet

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For me though, the big difference is pace, dribbling ability in tight spaces, ability to use both feet well and willingness to go on the outside as well as cut in, which is why I think he would be an improvement in our league in the wide positions over Lamela.



You've obviously seen much more of him than I have. I remember watching clips of Lamela taking players on for fun and thinking how great it would be to sign him. Hasn't really worked out though. If we go for Thauvin I hope you're right - we could certainly do with a player who isn't scared to run at the opposition.
 

Dharmabum

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Payet is the player I'd want from Marseille, class act.

He's also had his ups-and-downs though. He was "the next big thing" when he joined St. Etienne (2007), but never lived up to his early potential there (although he did show plenty of glimpses of it). He's now 28...
 

fatpiranha

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I've only watched Thauvin play when France won the U20 World Cup. Apart from Pogba, Thauvan was the best player in that French team. He looked like he was going to be a star. Personally i'd welcome him at the Lane.
 

JonnySpurs

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He's also had his ups-and-downs though. He was "the next big thing" when he joined St. Etienne (2007), but never lived up to his early potential there (although he did show plenty of glimpses of it). He's now 28...

Thats cool, I'm sure you know more about him than I do. I just read a stat the other day saying he's been one of the most creative players in european football this season and I just like what I've seen in the past. Pretty sure we've not been linked though so no biggy :)
 

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I would be happy to take him despite recent form, he has high potential and is still young. Ultimately, if he was playing at a higher level and fully realising his potential we wouldn't have a shot at getting him. As it is we might actually be able to get him for a reasonable fee unlike Depay. However, i don't think we need another left footed inside forward, we need a left winger or right footed inside forward.
 

DaSpurs

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I would be happy to take him despite recent form, he has high potential and is still young. Ultimately, if he was playing at a higher level and fully realising his potential we wouldn't have a shot at getting him. As it is we might actually be able to get him for a reasonable fee unlike Depay. However, i don't think we need another left footed inside forward, we need a left winger or right footed inside forward.

I suspect if we were to move for him that it would mean one of Lamela or Townsend would be departing, which I do believe likely to be the case this summer. I agree with you entirely that we badly need a left winger (have needed one for years now, even when we needed a good alternate to Bale), but I'd be an advocate of mixing things up at right wing as well, as things haven't been exactly peachy on that side either.
 

Hoddle&Waddle

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I would be happy to take him despite recent form, he has high potential and is still young. Ultimately, if he was playing at a higher level and fully realising his potential we wouldn't have a shot at getting him. As it is we might actually be able to get him for a reasonable fee unlike Depay. However, i don't think we need another left footed inside forward, we need a left winger or right footed inside forward.
I think we need both, but if you actually look at it stats wise we need a RWF more. Chadli, as limited as he is has contributed more than Lamela and Townsend combined, although thats not much admittedly.
 
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spurs9

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I would be happy to take him despite recent form, he has high potential and is still young. Ultimately, if he was playing at a higher level and fully realising his potential we wouldn't have a shot at getting him. As it is we might actually be able to get him for a reasonable fee unlike Depay. However, i don't think we need another left footed inside forward, we need a left winger or right footed inside forward.
This guy is good with both feet, yes he is better with his left , but very comfortable with his right too. He also goes on the outside and crosses rather than just cutting in and can play almost as well on the left too. I think his loss of form is a godsend to us as it will keep his fee down.

In addition to him, we also need someone who plays on the left and if they can use both feet too, brilliant.
 

spurs9

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I think we need both, but if you actually look at it stats wise we need a LWF more. Chadli, as limited as he is has contributed more than Lamela and Townsend combined, although thats not much admittedly.
I must be reading this wrong, as the highlighted shows we need a RWF more doesn't it?
 
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