Football Whispers

Discussion in 'Spurs Chat' started by Rob, Feb 28, 2017.

  1. FootballWhispers

    FootballWhispers Active Member

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    All papers/sources that quote it carry a weight and it will impact the index score but more often than not we try to ensure it's weighted off the original link.
     
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    Thanks, we try to add as much analysis to links/reports as possible.
     
  3. Rob

    Rob The Boss Admin

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    Football Whispers is run by a Spurs fan (and SC member) and has a fair few Spurs fans on staff so we're expecting decent content :)
     
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    TaoistMonkey What would Phil Dunphy do? Staff

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  6. JimmyG2

    JimmyG2 SC Supporter

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    Football transfer rumours and algorithms.
    All my favourite things in one basket.

    Please ban me A&C from this one too.
    You know you want to.
     
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  7. ostrov

    ostrov Well-Known Member

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    Harry Redknapp would certainly enjoy that. Especially algorithms :)))
     
  8. WalkerboyUK

    WalkerboyUK Well-Known Member

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    I guess it will help keep the Transfer Rumours threads under a bit more control!!!
     
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    Sweetsman Well-Known Member

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    First it was Cadbury's and now it's Football.
     
  10. Sir Henry

    Sir Henry Canadian, I dont pretend I'm anyone else.

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    If one person makes up shite, the same shite can spread like wildfire across all sites, so this predictor will rise due to the amount of shite mentioned on more sites. This sounds really accurate to me.

    You can substitute the word shite for whisper if you want.
     
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  11. widmerpool

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    It's an interesting thing, to do this algorithmically.

    Usually, research and validation algorithms help when they are surfacing information that you don't get humans to synthesise because it would take too long. With individual transfer rumours affecting a specific club, that's not the case - there are plenty of obsessives prepared to track down the original source of any story and assess the likelihood that the particular story is valid, considering all possible motivations for the individuals, agents, rumour-mongers and media owners involved.

    As I've said, before, I don't think that spread, duration and the reputation of what's deemed to be the original source is a great set of variables compared with the specifics that would be raised and discussed in any rumour validation exercise here.

    However, the full set of weighted rumours and the information about whether they were ultimately accurate could be enormously valuable. Serious analysis, of the sort that investment quants carry out, might offer some insights into the patterns of rumour dissemination that *tend* to accompany truthful rumours. And that could be invaluable for a volume betting strategy - actually, perhaps more useful to a bookie or a tip aggregator than an individual punter. That's the way that investment quants work, after all.
     
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  12. Everlasting Seconds

    Everlasting Seconds Well-Known Member

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    I see the general aspect of this collaboration is largely debated in the article related threads of FootballWhispers', rather than in this thread. It's very simple, Rob asked us to consider it and give it a go, so let's see what the collaboration will lead to. No doubt the nuisance is our own fault. After the very dry January (dry when it comes to ITK, that is), I can only imagine SC donations fell drastically. So this is a new approach at funding SC. If you are a big donor, you got the right to complain if you feel like it. If you are an occasional donor (like my self), give it some time. If you have never donated to SC and you are complaining about FootballWhispers' threads, then sod off.

    ;)
     
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  13. Rob

    Rob The Boss Admin

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    You might want to read the Abous Us page on FW and see who they've got behind them :)
     
  14. King of Otters

    King of Otters Well-Known Member

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    Money, apparently, and click bait.

    Sad!
     
  15. King of Otters

    King of Otters Well-Known Member

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    Fwiw, I totally get the need to cover server costs, just not sure allowing a third party to post self serving articles in Spurs chat is the best way to go about it.
     
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  16. Rob

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    Aside from the complaining about sensationalist headlines, they're actually good article. Even the people complaining have admitted that. I'm confident that the content is a good match (and will be even better during the transfer window).

    @FootballWhispers are taking all the comments on board and want to do this properly. They're not interested in generating a couple of clicks but instead building a good reputation and that means engaging with you all, posting stuff you want to read and really contributing.

    Give them a chance.
     
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    Private cash from serial tech investors, then solid-looking digital, dev and marketing folk. I must be missing something.
     
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    @Rob - I have no problems with your agreement with Football Whispers, but it'll be annoying if they create a new thread for every new article they post about Spurs. Can't their most recent one just go in the Kane thread, for example.

    Maybe there should be a Football Whispers thread, or even a whole section/sub-forum.
     
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  19. King of Otters

    King of Otters Well-Known Member

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    But surely they can just post on the front page, and continue to advertise elsewhere on the site?

    External links, from a third party (not even a Spurs blog), in a moderated Spurs forum is just jarring.
     
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  20. JimmyG2

    JimmyG2 SC Supporter

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    Keeping it all in one thread would make it easier to avoid.
     

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