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Frank de Boer makes fresh pitch for Tottenham job

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The Dutchman is in the running to replace Tim Sherwood this summer, but Pochettino is the No.1 target and Roberto Martinez is also being considered

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Geyzer Soze

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If this is true and he keeps making overtures then we are dumb as a sack of spanners for not picking him up
 

CrazyHeart

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Why do I have this deep fear in me that we'll bag David Moyes? I mean, Alan Sugar was out there making overtures about firing AVB, playing Adebayor, installing Tim Sherwood and Les Ferdinand as chief coaches and longing for Sir Alex Ferguson. Well, since Fergie isn't around, maybe his hand-picked successor may be to the liking to Sir Sugar and it's apparent that he wields more decisional power on Spurs than originally thought.
 

postigol

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My preference is for Pochettino but would be happy with De Boer. The win stats are meaningless if you're comparing Ajax in the Dutch League against Wigan and Southampton in the Premier League and Espanyol in La Liga - all of the latter are much more difficult management propositions and should have a lower expected win ratio. AVB must have had an impeccable win ratio at Porto - didn't they go all season undefeated?

I seriously think that we'll get this last round of games out of the way on Sunday, then Sherwood will talk to Levy next week. DL will dispatch him, and within a few days will ask permission of Saints to talk to Pochettino. Despite keeping a very dignified and respectful silence (unlike De Boer and LVG) Poch clearly is interested and I expect he'll be offered the role if he impresses at the talks. It's in both ours and Saints' interest to conclude this as early as possible in order to prepare for next season so he could be in place around the start of June.
 

UbeAstard

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If this is true and he keeps making overtures then we are dumb as a sack of spanners for not picking him up

I dont agree, I feel uneasy if someone has to tout themselves like that rather than letting their quality do the talking. Its the press reporting though so who knows the truth.
 

WhiteHeartLowe

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I seriously think that we'll get this last round of games out of the way on Sunday, then Sherwood will talk to Levy next week. DL will dispatch him, and within a few days will ask permission of Saints to talk to Pochettino. Despite keeping a very dignified and respectful silence (unlike De Boer and LVG) Poch clearly is interested and I expect he'll be offered the role if he impresses at the talks. It's in both ours and Saints' interest to conclude this as early as possible in order to prepare for next season so he could be in place around the start of June.
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What signs have you seen that he is "clearly interested"? I havnt seen any. And as I have said before, what exactly has Pochettino done that makes him a good choice for a side with top four asperations? He has made Saints a solid upper-mid table side, but we are that already IMO. However, I agree with you that getting our latest 'next big thing' in place asap is essential.
 

Japhet

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I like Pochettino too, mainly because like Rodgers and Martinez, he likes to play good football and has done very well with a small club in the EPL. There's a lot of the AVB philosophy in De Boers approach. I remember how many people turned their noses up at Rodgers and Martinez when they were attainable and I think we might miss a trick with Pochettino. My concern would be whether he could handle the likes of Adebayor, which De Boer undoubtedly would.
 

Geyzer Soze

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I dont agree, I feel uneasy if someone has to tout themselves like that rather than letting their quality do the talking. Its the press reporting though so who knows the truth.
I don't suppose he has to, him being about the most successful manager Ajax have ever had and all. He wants to manage in the PL and for whatever reason seems to see something in us that is a fit to him.

Talk about looking a gift horse in the mouth (if we are ignoring him)
 

thinktank

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I like Pochettino too, mainly because like Rodgers and Martinez, he likes to play good football and has done very well with a small club in the EPL. There's a lot of the AVB philosophy in De Boers approach. I remember how many people turned their noses up at Rodgers and Martinez when they were attainable and I think we might miss a trick with Pochettino. My concern would be whether he could handle the likes of Adebayor, which De Boer undoubtedly would.
Tino is no pushover. He's easily as strong a character as FDB.
 

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The good thing about FDB is it turns the whole image of the club around again and Verts, Eriksen and Lloris will get a feel good vibe
 

postigol

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I seriously think that we'll get this last round of games out of the way on Sunday, then Sherwood will talk to Levy next week. DL will dispatch him, and within a few days will ask permission of Saints to talk to Pochettino. Despite keeping a very dignified and respectful silence (unlike De Boer and LVG) Poch clearly is interested and I expect he'll be offered the role if he impresses at the talks. It's in both ours and Saints' interest to conclude this as early as possible in order to prepare for next season so he could be in place around the start of June.
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What signs have you seen that he is "clearly interested"? I havnt seen any. And as I have said before, what exactly has Pochettino done that makes him a good choice for a side with top four asperations? He has made Saints a solid upper-mid table side, but we are that already IMO. However, I agree with you that getting our latest 'next big thing' in place asap is essential.[/quote]

Hi there, not sure if these were the exact articles that formed my view but pulled these after a quick google to show why I think that:
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...rules-out-a-move-away-from-the-Premier-League

http://prosoccertalk.nbcsports.com/...er-league-stay-will-that-be-with-southampton/
http://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/fo...rules-out-a-move-away-from-the-Premier-League
In these articles he is quoted as saying he definitely wants to stay in the Premier League, but is non-committal on Saints other than saying he wants to focus on the last remaining games and talk about his future in the summer. On Spurs he noted the reports about him but refused to discuss the role as we have a coach in place at this time.

In terms of what he has done, he's made a team more than the sum pof its parts, and we're the exact opposite of that right now. Like Martinez and Rodgers he has got his team in about as strong a position as they're likely to get - getting Saints to that level is an overachievement, Spurs as as solid upper half side is an underachievement.
 

SlunkSoma

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I think Pochetinno's agent is working overtime at the moment. No other reason his name is in the papers so often. Spurs would be keeping it under wraps, as we are in a strong position given the calibre of candidates who are apparently interested so have no need to unsettle anyone.
 

postigol

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The good thing about FDB is it turns the whole image of the club around again and Verts, Eriksen and Lloris will get a feel good vibe
You're assuming Verts and Eriksen enjoyed working under FDB. Maybe the reason they left was because they didn't? If that were the case then FDB's appointment would hasten their departures.
 

Japhet

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If we fail to get FDB and opt for Poch, kiss goodbye to Lloris and Vertonghen.

Based on what exactly? FDB is Dutch and so is Vertonghen? If Lloris and Vertonghen want out they will force their way out but maybe, just maybe, they might like the way Pochettino (or whoever) plays the game.
 

ethanedwards

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Japhet said:
Based on what exactly? FDB is Dutch and so is Vertonghen? If Lloris and Vertonghen want out they will force their way out but maybe, just maybe, they might like the way Pochettino (or whoever) plays the game.
Silly me I thought Verts would be playing for Belgium.
 

JonnySpurs

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And as I have said before, what exactly has Pochettino done that makes him a good choice for a side with top four asperations? He has made Saints a solid upper-mid table side, but we are that already IMO.

What had Rogers or Martinez done before they took over at Liverpool and Everton? But I bet you wish we'd gone for one of them now right?

Rogers had seriously ropey spells at Watford and Reading and had hardly pulled up trees at Swansea and yet he's nearly taken Liverpool to the title in 2 seasons.

Martinez had done ok at Wigan but they still got relegated and yet he's done a marvellous job at Everton so far.

AVB had won trophies at Porto and so has FDB at Ajax but that doesn't mean that either of had/have what it takes to be coaches in the Prem. At least Poch knows what this league is all about and has that experience to call on.

I'll take FDB or Poch but I think I'm still leaning towards the latter.
 
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