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I dont see the point of him going for Ward again. He's better off trying for GGG or Chavez Jr in Vegas, maybe even try for Sergio Martinez after he beats Cotto
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I love KO's like this, see them in MMA more often, when the guy is literally out the second the blow connects, hits the floor then wakes up and quite obviously have no idea they've been unconscious, so try and jump back to their feet - it's like the mind hasn't quite caught up with the body yet, then the legs refuse to work and it's just that look of total confusion on the guys face as his brain starts a bit of a status report on his limbs and figures out what's happened.
Similar happened to a mate, he fell backwards down the stairs at my old house and his head clipped a shelf as he went - out cold, tumbled all the way to the bottom like a ragdoll, half a second later he sprung back to his feet and went into some kind of guard mode to take on whoever it was that must've just knocked him over. Few more seconds and he was back on the floor again looking totally confused.
Similar happened to a mate, he fell backwards down the stairs at my old house and his head clipped a shelf as he went - out cold, tumbled all the way to the bottom like a ragdoll, half a second later he sprung back to his feet and went into some kind of guard mode to take on whoever it was that must've just knocked him over. Few more seconds and he was back on the floor again looking totally confused.
David Haye pretty much called it on the money
He said the fight could end one of two ways - a Froch KO or a Groves points win
For my money Groves was ahead on points and getting stronger and would have gone on to win had Froch not found the punch in the 8th or any of the latter rounds
Haye also said after saying that he couldn't see the fight not ending in a KO
Froch did well not to engage and rather pick his punches a little, it meant that while Groves was marginally winning the exchanges he was never in a position to really land any heavy sharp counters as Froch rarely extended himself and left himself in range - so when Groves did land it was out of range and carrying less power (plus Froch would be moving away and cushioning the blow)
Froch out thought him in that respect and out fought him when push came to shove - Groves made a big mistake for the KO as he looked to counter with a left hook after blocking Froch's left instead of reading that the left was a set up for a straight right.
Groves left his chin hanging for that right hand and Froch threw all his body weight into it like he was hitting the punch bag mahcine in an arcade trying to break the record score.
Perfect punch and Groves was out before he hit the floor
Fair play to both - Groves I hope comes back strong and remains relevant in the divsion beyond this fight and Froch I hope has one more fight in Vegas and ends his career on a high with a nice KO win (or if he really wants a 2nd fight after Vegas in the City ground Nottingham with a farewell fight against an "easy" opponent)
I don't really wanna see Froch vs De Gale, I see it as being unnecessarily difficult and I don't think it will really capture anyone's attention either.
He said the fight could end one of two ways - a Froch KO or a Groves points win
For my money Groves was ahead on points and getting stronger and would have gone on to win had Froch not found the punch in the 8th or any of the latter rounds
Haye also said after saying that he couldn't see the fight not ending in a KO
Froch did well not to engage and rather pick his punches a little, it meant that while Groves was marginally winning the exchanges he was never in a position to really land any heavy sharp counters as Froch rarely extended himself and left himself in range - so when Groves did land it was out of range and carrying less power (plus Froch would be moving away and cushioning the blow)
Froch out thought him in that respect and out fought him when push came to shove - Groves made a big mistake for the KO as he looked to counter with a left hook after blocking Froch's left instead of reading that the left was a set up for a straight right.
Groves left his chin hanging for that right hand and Froch threw all his body weight into it like he was hitting the punch bag mahcine in an arcade trying to break the record score.
Perfect punch and Groves was out before he hit the floor
Fair play to both - Groves I hope comes back strong and remains relevant in the divsion beyond this fight and Froch I hope has one more fight in Vegas and ends his career on a high with a nice KO win (or if he really wants a 2nd fight after Vegas in the City ground Nottingham with a farewell fight against an "easy" opponent)
I don't really wanna see Froch vs De Gale, I see it as being unnecessarily difficult and I don't think it will really capture anyone's attention either.
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More likely that Groves will push De Gale for a rematch to try and get his career back on track, they had an exceptionally close fight first time around. Froch would knock De Gale out. Froch may want to avenge his defeat to Ward but I don`t think he has the skill to beat him.
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I'd say that's a pretty fair guess - DeGale is simply too sure of himself, if he was put in the ring with Froch he would get a schooling, of that i have no doubt, but i'd quite like to see a Groves/DeGale "rematch". It's been four years since Groves put that smudge on DeGales list and, if my memory serves, it was pretty arguable that Groves walked away with the win.
Didn't Groves say something along the lines of finally being done with "the domestic scene" after he got the decision on that one? Well, now DeGale has too, apparently, so i reckon a rematch is well on the cards.
But DeGale is going to want a title shot before anything else.
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It was a very arguable decision, a point in it in Groves favour. DeGale is now the No1 challenger in the IBF rankings so I think you`re right he will want a title fight, I just don`t think he will get that from Froch, his last two fight defences have been mandatory, and I think Froch will be looking at bigger fish than DeGale tbh.
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So apparently (according to SSN) the score cards at the point of the KO had 2 judges with Froch by 1 point and the other judge had Groves by three...
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Oddly enough I had froch ahead by 1 point as well. Not sure it means much as I hardly ever agree with the judges scoring.
I will say I have no idea how 1 judge saw it as Groves 3 points ahead.
Froch won't touch ward in my opinion - he'll fight Charvez in Vegas
Groves will have to rebuild now - at least two wins before he gets back in the mix. De Gale will get a title shot before he fights groves and probably will defend his belt at least once if he wins before taking abig fight like groves again
Doubt we'll see too much more of froch now - maybe one more in uk after vegas at most but I'm sure sooner or later groves and de gale will lock horns again and if they each win2-3 fights before had it could end up being a big event (not least if a title is on the line) as regardless of the defeats Groves has raised his profile and made himself marketable
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I'd agree with that - it'll sting, having that mark on his record, but one loss is better than two and whilst he might be a superb fighter, it just happens that Ward has the perfect counter to his game and he's not silly, he knows that. So that leaves him with either the option to try and change his game, which he would have to do significantly, but then you think about how old he is now - does he really want, or even need, to go through all that? I don't think so. Every fighter has a nemesis, Froch should let Ward be his one "what if" and go find his fortune in Vegas before his body gives up on him.
