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Match Prediction

  • Fulham Win

    Votes: 10 9.9%
  • Spurs Win

    Votes: 83 82.2%
  • Score Draw

    Votes: 7 6.9%
  • Goalless Draw

    Votes: 1 1.0%

  • Total voters
    101
  • Poll closed .

Westmorlandspur

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Just shows we don’t need to rest. That was the first clear week we’ve had since August and it was one of our poorest efforts. Back to normal for the next few weeks.
Moura prob back for Chelsea. Sissoko for Newcastle then Sonny for Leicester . Just need to get past Chelsea.
 

rossdapep

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If we have one more game where he starts screaming "WHERE IS DEMBELE?! WHY ISN'T HE PLAYING?!" like he's done in the last two appearances I'm going to hunt him down.
I'll join you!

I reckon him screaming that to Louise over sunday lunch is the reason they split.
 

Phomesy

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Aug 20, 2013
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Right Ohh. Mate.. I didn't say everything was so pc?.. If your going to quote me get it spot on.
I'm standing in a stand this afternoon with male, female and trans gender I dare say all giving it abuse of all kinds.. Its not bullshit its reality.. I say what I think honestly on a forum and I get destroyed by 'snowflakes'.. ?.. Ahh poor me..
Just seen Alex quotes on TV and I have not changed my mind one iota.. Girly football is great if your a girl.. Its a very poor excuse to ask someone to Comment on Premier league games to a national. Audience if you havnt played or experienced the pace or passion of it.at least the other pundits have experienced the premiership or old 1st division as it was then in souness's case.. The premiership is not mixed sex as yet?
When a female plays in the premiership come back with an argument... Its not sexist.. Nor bigoted... Its fact.
Class of 1862 was it?:woot:
 

Shadydan

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Jul 7, 2012
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It was almost the last minute of the game. It was a risk that they could have taken. Two points gained or a point lost (from the position of drawing the game). If they had scored, there would probably not have been enough time left for us to score.

Every game they have left now would be difficult for them. If it isn’t then they wouldn’t be currently one position off the foot of the table.

If if if, your whole argument isn't based on reality, Fulham are at the foot of the table and need to scrap for every point, when you're at the bottom a result you're not expected to get feels like a win, all they've done now is killed their own confidence, they could have gone into the rest of the season knowing that they successfully held onto a point against a top 6 team but now they're going to be doubting their own ability at the end of matches.

Even Claudio Ranieri said his team should have taken the ball to the corner and wasted time so it was obviously the wrong strategy.
 

Spurslove

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Jul 6, 2012
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Just as a matter of interest, to all those who went to the match today, did you all stay right till the end or were you half way to the station when Winksy did it for us...?

:sneaky:

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Marty

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Mar 10, 2005
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She isn’t the worst pundit about but anyone who is supposed to be neutral shouldn’t refer to the team they support as “us” and be totally deflated when their team loses as she did when Arsenal lost to us the other week. She also refer to us in the build up tactics talk as playing the diamond formation even though it was clear we were playing 3 at the back.
To be fair she is not the only one who does this on sky and I find their pundits on a whole as completely biased and unknowledgeable about many teams they talk about.
I don't understand why it's impossible to have a football show without ex-players talking gibberish. Get a proper writer/journalist on every now and again, get Michael Cox or another tactics analyst on, just get someone on who actually does research and speaks coherently!

This is why my football punditry is almost exclusively limited to podcasts these days.
 

Riandor

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May 26, 2004
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Aurier and Walker-Peters must be questioning their life choices right now.
Aurier?
Well seeing as he had the Police round his house for an apparent altercation, not sure he should be questioning life choices in the way you mean it.

(I’m only on page 90, so apologies if this gets mentioned)
 

Bobbins

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May 5, 2005
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Hmm, Seems like you have just admitted your own bias by saying you only paid attention to Scott but didn't notice Souness/Redknapp. As others on here have posted, I personally think she's one of the better pundits out there as she is clearly well researched and informed unlike many who are too lazy to do research and just wing it. Let's just agree to disagree rather than derail the thread any further.

This is an interesting discussion. I think there's significant bias on both sides.

She's clearly not a "rubbish pundit" as he claims - she's no worse than anyone else on Sky for certain.

She is, however, absolutely bang average in her punditry still. She offers no better or more articulate insight than 90% of existing pundits, and she definitely isn't one of the better pundits out there. There are many far more interesting people talking about football floating around our tv's and radio's at the moment.

He also has a point in the fact that she's yet another Sky pundit with a genuine (and understandable) Arsenal bias who continually get assigned to our games, while Sky try to defend themselves by throwing in two non-Spurs fans who both had 5 minute careers at the club.

Ultimately Scott is a tv sports exec's dream - she's young, she's a good player in her own right, she's not white, she's pretty, and she certainly doesn't embarrass herself amongst the company of established pundits. She's therefore getting massively disproportionate screen time at the moment as all the networks seem to have signed her up to appear practically round-the-clock.

However, the bullshit that's getting thrown around about not having women commentate/offer opinion and the usual "snowflakes" cringe-worthy crap is ridiculous. She's perfectly capable of appearing on our screens and being a positive presence.

What I really hope is that her success opens the door to actual good female pundits to get their chances - regardless of their appearance/clubs/backgrounds etc. That would be real progress.

I don't care who talks about my football as long as they actually know what they're talking about and can offer interesting opinions and insight. About 80% of the current crop doesn't offer that, and Sky have the worst stable of all by far with the exception of Neville.
 

Marty

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Mar 10, 2005
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Its a very poor excuse to ask someone to Comment on Premier league games to a national. Audience if you havnt played or experienced the pace or passion of it.
I'm not going to dissect the bits about women in football, but this specifically is absolute horseshit. You don't have to have played at a national level to have a coherent opinion about the game. Journalists and bloggers like Jonathan Wilson, James Horncastle, Rafa Honigstein, Michael Cox, Julien Laurens and I can go on and on and on are so much better to listen to when they talk about football than a Phil Thompson, Lawro, Roy Keane or Jamie Redknapp. They can formulate coherent arguments, they can read the game at least as well as most people who have played the game, and they don't just speak in platitudes.

Punditry needs more journalists and fewer ex-pros, male or female.
 
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ardiles

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Nov 24, 2006
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If if if, your whole argument isn't based on reality, Fulham are at the foot of the table and need to scrap for every point, when you're at the bottom a result you're not expected to get feels like a win, all they've done now is killed their own confidence, they could have gone into the rest of the season knowing that they successfully held onto a point against a top 6 team but now they're going to be doubting their own ability at the end of matches.

Even Claudio Ranieri said his team should have taken the ball to the corner and wasted time so it was obviously the wrong strategy.

Well if you believe that they’ve lost their confidence based on today’s result then I’d have to disagree. The reason they are near the foot of the table is not only because we beat them today.
 

Marty

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Mar 10, 2005
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What I really hope is that her success opens the door to actual good female pundits to get their chances - regardless of their appearance/clubs/backgrounds etc. That would be real progress.
Absolutely this. In our studio (TV 2 Norway) we've had Jaqui Oatley, Bianca Westwood, Johanna Frandën (Swedish expert) and a couple of other female guests on our Premier League shows in recent years and they have without exception been knowledgeable, good analysts and good speakers. These women are really paving the way for female pundits and the game and the profession is richer for it.
 

dondo

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Jan 4, 2006
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Hmm, Seems like you have just admitted your own bias by saying you only paid attention to Scott but didn't notice Souness/Redknapp. As others on here have posted, I personally think she's one of the better pundits out there as she is clearly well researched and informed unlike many who are too lazy to do research and just wing it. Let's just agree to disagree rather than derail the thread any further.


Hmmmm indeed. ?
 
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