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Fulham Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

worcestersauce

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You can't have it both ways. If he is just strolling back then he's obviously not interfering, though I admit that referees and their assistants can't always be relied upon to make this judgement.
if you are strolling back right in front of the keeper then you are interfering, if you are between the shooter and the keeper you must be interfering and clearly he was because he had to jump over the ball.
 

Huddlestone22

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I think creativity wise that's the most chances we've created all season. Paulinho, Defoe missed some quite easy chances which had they would have gone in would have given the game a whole different complexion. We lacked creativity towards the end because Fulham were compact and narrow after they scored to try and protect their lead.
 

mill

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I think creativity wise that's the most chances we've created all season. Paulinho, Defoe missed some quite easy chances which had they would have gone in would have given the game a whole different complexion. We lacked creativity towards the end because Fulham were compact and narrow after they scored to try and protect their lead.

Surely we created more against newcastle?
 

RuskyM

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Oh well. Looks like you are going to have to have some faith in AVB. I can see what we are doing. I can see improvement. The results are fine, the performances are getting better, all good.

Can you really see what we're doing?

Can you explain why we thought playing two defensive midfielders against the worst side in the league was a good move?

Can you explain why he persists with Lennon on the left even though it's never worked before and never will again?

Can you explain why he seems to choose our attacking midfield at random?

Can you explain why we're so fucking slow at attacking?

Or why we're so inept creatively?

I don't see any difference between the team that went out yesterday and the one that started against Palace.
 

JamieDaCosta

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All season you've been calling for your mate Defoe to play, well in your opinion how did he do?

Yeah I thought he did alright

He set up 2 good chances for Lamela and Paulinho and he had a hand in Holtby's goal

He himself had a few chances 1 of which was through his own initiative (his turn and shot near the start of the game) and the other from Chadli's long ball, he should have scored the latter though and im actually really surprised he didn't, why he used his left foot ill never know

Aside from that he held the ball up pretty well considering (when it was played into his feet) got involved in a lot of play and his pace helped us break well on a couple of occasions, his movement was also good in general which always helps when you play up front....hint hint

In order for him to be playing his best and get into the flow of our team he will need to play more consecutive games but I thought even without that he did pretty well
 

degoose

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i'm intrigued by all this complaining even though we won. I'll be watching the match in a few minutes as it is on Sky as i was out last night so didn't see it. If we are completely shit then fair enough but i have a funny feeling i am going to watch the game and then realise again that quite a few of the people on here are insane,depressing and a bit dim.
 

ajspurs

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I thought Defoe was alright too, only criticism would be his one on one miss but I don't think we were playing well enough for any striker to potentially shine on the night.
 

ajspurs

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i'm intrigued by all this complaining even though we won. I'll be watching the match in a few minutes as it is on Sky as i was out last night so didn't see it. If we are completely shit then fair enough but i have a funny feeling i am going to watch the game and then realise again that quite a few of the people on here are insane,depressing and a bit dim.

I'll be surprised if you can't pick out the negatives from it, personally. Not that there weren't any single positives, but it certainly wasn't great viewing.
 

chrissivad

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I thought Defoe was alright too, only criticism would be his one on one miss but I don't think we were playing well enough for any striker to potentially shine on the night.

Dont think its was much diffrent that we have seen from out srtikers so far.

Trouble to get in the game at times, but like Soldado at the other day created a couple of chances.

Didnt see him much in the second half but the first half he did hold the ball up a few times and bring others into play. Just a shame he is not about 6 foot.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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Did you think that this time last season Gaz?


I think i saw a Manager who saw the weakness in the team that he inherited, and with limited funds has in a season made them into potential CL qualifiers. There play is expansive and he has getting the best out of Suarez and though he is now injured Sturridge who imo has come on in leaps and bounds. A fast paced team, quick on the break with two (up to last week anyway) excellent strikers.

I feel that we have a better defence and defensive midfielders than Liverpool (and for that most of the PL) but from that point on are poor in comparison. Their pace and general build up speed is quite frightening to watch, and reminds me of the Spurs of seasons past. I i'd better leave it at that.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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I have only just seen our goals and our first goal could well have been disallowed, Defoe was well offside strolling back like a walk in the park and had to be interfering.


It's very rare these days that Defoe interferes in a game of footie. I think the lino knew this and that why he wasn't flagged for offside. Unbelievable i know, but unfortunately true.
 

Mr Pink

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I think i saw a Manager who saw the weakness in the team that he inherited, and with limited funds has in a season made them into potential CL qualifiers. There play is expansive and he has getting the best out of Suarez and though he is now injured Sturridge who imo has come on in leaps and bounds. A fast paced team, quick on the break with two (up to last week anyway) excellent strikers.

I feel that we have a better defence and defensive midfielders than Liverpool (and for that most of the PL) but from that point on are poor in comparison. Their pace and general build up speed is quite frightening to watch, and reminds me of the Spurs of seasons past. I i'd better leave it at that.

I think we have far great potential as a team. They've had their best start in years, and we're still only three points behind them. If we can get our act together we'll sail past them. A big if mind you because I think it involves a change of style and approach to our game, but we shall see.
 

Gaz_Gammon

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I think we have far great potential as a team. They've had their best start in years, and we're still only three points behind them. If we can get our act together we'll sail past them. A big if mind you because I think it involves a change of style and approach to our game, but we shall see.


I cannot agree more with your summing up.

A change of style will never come, ever. I didn't see it at Porto, though i have only seen about eight or ten games when AVB was their, and it certainly did not change at all when he was at Chel$ea despite the evidence on the pitch that it wasn't working.

I admire anyone for sticking to their principles, i really do. Fergie for instance, is a classic example that what he believed in he stuck to. Nothing wrong in that, but then again i didn't see any of his rebuilt sides score less goals than games played after a quarter of the season. Honest.
 

degoose

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well i watched the hour long highlights and the first half was not great but i have seen worse, Fulham had a game plan to defend deep and hit on the break plus they also put a huge amount of effort into closing the spurs players down so this limited our play. We did though have a lot of good chances and we were probably lacking a bit of confidence and the goals just didnt happen.

Second half looked like it was better, holtby made a big difference and there again were more chances to score but stekelenburg made some more brill saves. Fulham also gave it a go and nearly scored but lloris also did well and made some great saves throughout which is what he was bought for. The game looked a bit scrappy but thats because fulham made it that way and sometimes you just can't play slick football if the other team are not going to allow it.

I thought overall it was scrappy but a good win and an away win which are always tough to get.
 

cheeseman

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If you actually watched the whole Liverpool game you would have indeed wanked. To compare the two games as an advert for football is a bit like saying that compared to Lady Gaga a big fat bird looks a bit of alright. You may poke both of them, but one of which you would do so with your eyes firmly closed. That in a nutshell my friend was the difference between the Spurs and Liverpool performance tonight.

I am shitting myself at the thought of Dawson defending against Suarez at the halfway line in a couple of weeks time.

He didn't compare the two performances lol.
 

cheeseman

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I think i saw a Manager who saw the weakness in the team that he inherited, and with limited funds has in a season made them into potential CL qualifiers. There play is expansive and he has getting the best out of Suarez and though he is now injured Sturridge who imo has come on in leaps and bounds. A fast paced team, quick on the break with two (up to last week anyway) excellent strikers.

I feel that we have a better defence and defensive midfielders than Liverpool (and for that most of the PL) but from that point on are poor in comparison. Their pace and general build up speed is quite frightening to watch, and reminds me of the Spurs of seasons past. I i'd better leave it at that.

Yep, weren't they awesome at Hull at the weekend?
 

cheeseman

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We didn't exaclty knock Hull out of the park at home did we?

Gaz said:

"Their pace and general build up speed is quite frightening to watch, and reminds me of the Spurs of seasons past. I i'd better leave it at that", because they whooped Norwich at home. I was pointing out that this isn't always the case. We beat Hull though :)
 

Kendall

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Gaz said:

"Their pace and general build up speed is quite frightening to watch, and reminds me of the Spurs of seasons past. I i'd better leave it at that", because they whooped Norwich at home. I was pointing out that this isn't always the case. We beat Hull though :)

No, but it's clear that that was an off day. Even when we've won we haven't done any of that.
 
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