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Fulham Vs Tottenham: Match Thread

SandroClegane

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I haven't watched a game for a few weeks because I'd lost interest after so many boring performances but thought I'd watch it yesterday to see if there was any improvement. At times I thought we looked quite good, mainly when Lennon was on the right and Lamela on the left as we had some width and was actually getting balls in the box! I still struggle to see what Paulinho offers us though? Maybe it's time to try Lamela at 10 and but Townsend or Chaldi on the left? There were a few glimpses of light yesterday but we still seem a bit off top 4 quality at the moment.
You're a great fan.
 

Real_madyidd

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Can you really see what we're doing?

Can you explain why we thought playing two defensive midfielders against the worst side in the league was a good move?

Can you explain why he persists with Lennon on the left even though it's never worked before and never will again?

Can you explain why he seems to choose our attacking midfield at random?

Can you explain why we're so fucking slow at attacking?

Or why we're so inept creatively?

Yes to all.
 

nightgoat

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Ha, he is almost crying.

He got owned by Dermot Gallagher on SSN today. He repeated his bleating from last night about how the keeper was expecting Defoe to touch it before Gallagher calmly said that because Defoe wasn't directly in the keeper's line of sight and that he was over ten yards from goal (presumably that now has something to do with it) there was nothing wrong with it and it was the correct decision to allow it. Curbishley looked very sheepish as he was definitively put in his place.
 

cheeseman

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As we were at home to West Ham. Listen where do you want the comparisons to end? I have loads of them from this season?

I'm not bothered when the comparisons end, as you're the only one making comparisons. You were kissing Liverpool's arse, so I mentioned that they were played crap only a few days ago. End of story.
 

nightgoat

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I think we have far great potential as a team. They've had their best start in years, and we're still only three points behind them. If we can get our act together we'll sail past them. A big if mind you because I think it involves a change of style and approach to our game, but we shall see.


Before last night's games the average league position of Arsenal's opponents so far was 13th. Liverpool's was 11th, ours was 9th. I know it's not the most scientific and flawless approach given form swings, managerial changes etc, but still, it's a worthwhile indication at this stage when the league has started to take shape.
 

ajspurs

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Dont think its was much diffrent that we have seen from out srtikers so far.

Trouble to get in the game at times, but like Soldado at the other day created a couple of chances.

Didnt see him much in the second half but the first half he did hold the ball up a few times and bring others into play. Just a shame he is not about 6 foot.

No it wasn't at all. I can only echo what you've said but at least at this stage, I honestly don't think there's a massive difference at all in having Soldado or Defoe up front.
 

JamieDaCosta

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Yeah I thought he did alright

He set up 2 good chances for Lamela and Paulinho and he had a hand in Holtby's goal

He himself had a few chances 1 of which was through his own initiative (his turn and shot near the start of the game) and the other from Chadli's long ball, he should have scored the latter though and im actually really surprised he didn't, why he used his left foot ill never know

Aside from that he held the ball up pretty well considering (when it was played into his feet) got involved in a lot of play and his pace helped us break well on a couple of occasions, his movement was also good in general which always helps when you play up front....hint hint

In order for him to be playing his best and get into the flow of our team he will need to play more consecutive games but I thought even without that he did pretty well

@parj - I love it when people give me a negative rating for no reason at all

What exactly is it about the above that isn't true, every single thing I listed happened during the game
 

ajspurs

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Dont think its was much diffrent that we have seen from out srtikers so far.

Trouble to get in the game at times, but like Soldado at the other day created a couple of chances.

Didnt see him much in the second half but the first half he did hold the ball up a few times and bring others into play. Just a shame he is not about 6 foot.

No it wasn't at all. I can only echo what you've said but at least at this stage, I honestly don't think there's a massive difference at all in having Soldado or Defoe up front.
 

spurs9

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I just don't think we move the ball quick enough and look to move into the space.

there was an example in the game yesterday when we broke, Defoe was to the left, someone was to the middle/right and we were running down the middle, instead of the person moving out wide they stayed in the middle meaning it was over crowded and couldn't get a shot in.

My stream was bad so couldn't see who it was at that point.
I agree, we don't necessarily need a major change in tactics or formation, just a lot more urgency and movement off the ball. I don't understand why our movement is so poor either. Soldado, Paulinho, Lamela, Chadli and Eriksen all had reputations for good movement off the ball prior to joining, so maybe its tactical.
 

spurs9

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No it wasn't at all. I can only echo what you've said but at least at this stage, I honestly don't think there's a massive difference at all in having Soldado or Defoe up front.
Until we play to our strikers strengths only strikers that can do everything on their own like Suarez would make a difference. Any other type of striker would be the same.
 

shelfboy68

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I think i saw a Manager who saw the weakness in the team that he inherited, and with limited funds has in a season made them into potential CL qualifiers. There play is expansive and he has getting the best out of Suarez and though he is now injured Sturridge who imo has come on in leaps and bounds. A fast paced team, quick on the break with two (up to last week anyway) excellent strikers.

I feel that we have a better defence and defensive midfielders than Liverpool (and for that most of the PL) but from that point on are poor in comparison. Their pace and general build up speed is quite frightening to watch, and reminds me of the Spurs of seasons past. I i'd better leave it at that.

Those days are gone we are a different animal these days
 

HoltbiusMac

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No they just give it to Porto every year. As has been said with Falcao, Hulk, Moutinho etc., not winning would have been much harder

Except y'know the year before where they had Hulk and Falcao and finished 3rd. Don't believe everything the Daily Mail tell you.
 

Sweetsman

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I'm not bothered when the comparisons end, as you're the only one making comparisons. You were kissing Liverpool's arse, so I mentioned that they were played crap only a few days ago. End of story.[/quot
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Liverpool were basically one player, Luis Suarez, who I seem to remember was on offer to us. Who exactly turned him down, I wonder? Hmmmm... I look to Messrs Gammon and Blast for answers, two heads being better than one neuron and all that. The little spiel from the former may have been written about us last season when we also had a colossus in our midst and around who the team was fashioned. There is a case to have been made for Suarez to have been player of the year last year over Bale.
 
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Sweetsman

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Agreed. 2 individual performances are what saved us.
Truth be told, I think AVB's days are numbered, Levy isn't blind nor is he an idiot, and any bloody fool can see that top 4 is not an option with AVB in charge, as any decent side would've beaten us today. Sure we played well against Man U, but man Utd aren't in the top 4.
Ah, the usual intellectually dishonest line of reasoning whereby any achievement of AVB is damned with spurious caveats. At the helm of Spurs, AVB has never been beaten by ManU. What did Harry do? If Levy does sack AVB now, he most definitely will look clueless.
 

Sweetsman

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yes, against Fulham, and we just about won. Sure, it's 3 points, and yes we won and yes of course I am happy we won. But I am not talking about the 3 points nor the victory, I'm talking about the PERFORMANCE against a bottom 3 side.
We're playing football, not engaging in figure-skating, darling. There are no points for PERFORMANCE and they are as much a bottom three club as we were when we were saved from oblivion by St Harry of Two Points.
 

Sweetsman

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my god that spurs team are a joke.

ten yard passes going way off mark.. , not able to clear any type of ball, constantly giving it away and not creating a single thing and when we do defoe does his usual... it took two unreal shots from 25 + yeards out to rescue game...

what do spurs players do during the week.. everytime they go on pitch they look punch drunk and like a bunch of lads who just bumped into each other and fancy a kick around. lack of intelligence out on that field with possession is nothing short of comical at times.


clueless, no imagination, lazy arse limited movement and villas boas gets away with it again with comical subs..

that game tonight should have bebeen over at half time. no one works hard enough and fulham are a woeful side yet we made them look half decent. unreal and haunted to get three points.
You are the joke.
 

Sweetsman

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Another. Two. Goals. From. Outside. The. Box.

OK, we won and three points were what mattered this evening, but every one of the problems in attack is still present and correct. We cannot play our way through or behind organised defences because our build-up is too slow and our movement off the ball is too pedestrian. Another 348 attempted through balls bounced off defenders. Another 463 crosses were delayed until everyone was marked. Unless we can hammer one in from 20m, which fortunately we often can, we cannot score.

Surprisingly, Fulham's midfield confronted and often dominated Sandro and Capoue - what's that about? We seemed to have more of the ball with a makeshift midfield consisting of Lennon, Chadli, Holtby,Townsend and Paulinho than we had when we had a hard-tackling double pivot.

Nothing has been proven. We still haven't worked out how to solve the problems. At least we won. Chiriches' reputation takes another step forward. Lennon demonstrates again that he has to play on the right. Lamela demonstrates again that he needs to get stronger. And we have the best goalkeeper in the league.
It's very simple: the squad have lost a lot of confidence with the constant chiding from our so-called fans, but they are fully behind AVB. Some of our fans are wannabe Daily Mail writers. NOTE: this is not a reference to David Matzdorf
 
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