Full backs where do you sit?

[fortworthspur]

I'd be more then happy to blow our load on top quality wingback dynamic power quick solid wingback who can get beyond in attack and defend.

well then we should have kept walker

 

[Rout-Ledge]

For my money the pecking order is Rose>Davies>Trippier>Aurier.

If Rose can sort his head out then all we need to do is make amends for last summer's Walker replacement screwup. If he doesn't, then we need two new fullbacks.

 

[TEESSIDE1]

For my money the pecking order is Rose>Davies>Trippier>Aurier.

If Rose can sort his head out then all we need to do is make amends for last summer's Walker replacement screwup. If he doesn't, then we need two new fullbacks.

We need like for like so even if Rose does sort his head out we’ll still need 2 new full backs. Rose + 1, Aurier +1, send KWP out on loan for a year and if he does well and Aurier flops then we’ve a ready made replacement.

Ideally Rose and Tierney/Telles, Aurier and Pereira.

 

[allatsea]

Neither Rose or Trippier could go past their man yesterday. Both were needing the ball put into space so they could run onto it and then (try) and cross it. Both failed miserably. Walker had the same fault both at Spurs and now at Man City. He has to be able to run onto a ball in space before he can make any use of it. Ask him to get past a defender when he is stationery with the ball and he can’t do it. Neither can Rose, Davies or Trippier. Aurier can but he is so defensively weak he is a liability IMO.

 

[Blake Griffin]

Neither Rose or Trippier could go past their man yesterday. Both were needing the ball put into space so they could run onto it and then (try) and cross it. Both failed miserably. Walker had the same fault both at Spurs and now at Man City. He has to be able to run onto a ball in space before he can make any use of it. Ask him to get past a defender when he is stationery with the ball and he can’t do it. Neither can Rose, Davies or Trippier. Aurier can but he is so defensively weak he is a liability IMO.

i can't recall aurier showing many examples of this either.

 

[ilikeost]

Sell Rose, keep Davies and sign a new LB/LWB. Either young/promising or already established will do since Davies has been really good. Is Davies at peak Rose levels? Probably not but he is hardly a problem and Rose looks fucked. I don't want Rose even if he wants to stay.

Keep Trippier and Aurier. Hopefully Poch can make Aurier into a good player even though he can be really pathetic at times, I'm willing to give him another season. KWP will hopefully improve establish himself in the team.

 

[zoneD]

...hope Rose and Toby stay so we can play 3 at the back next year with Rose and desperately needed top-class RWB acquisition as wing-backs...keep Trips/Davies/KWP as backups...
...don't think Aurier will come good, and don't want to drop points while waiting for him to develop...
COYS

 

[jonnboy]

For me Davies and Trippier are good squad players , not at the level where we looking to be .
They lack pace , So the team is laboured in its approach .
Everything at the moment is side to side , we are too predictable as a team due to the fact we no wing backs to go on the outside .
With Rose and Walker we had pace to burn which pushed to the oppo back , so the midfield could play further up the pitch .

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I'm happy with Davies, I'm optimistic about Aurier, I'm reluctant about Trippier and I'm fed up with Rose.

 

[Deleted member 27995]

As it stands none of them are of the level that you would expect of a team challenging for the title year in year out.

Solid if unspectacular.

If we are looking to consolidate our position in the top four then Davies is good enough. Trippier seems good enough as squad/cover.

If we are looking to challenge then the answer isn't already a part of this football team.

 

[nailsy]

Is a tricky one. As others have mentioned Davies and Trippier are good players, but it's possibly the easiest place for us to improve the team. Aurier I'm really not sure about. He looks good going forward, but he makes me really nervous when he's defending. Can Poch improve that side of his game? Rose....who knows what he'll be like next season? Have his injuries reduced his level permanently, or can he get back to the standard he set in previous seasons? KWP.... I haven't seen enough of him to form an opinion. He needs game time next season though.

 

[willcpt17]

I wouldnt spend any money on fullbacks this summer. The current lot are serviceable and there is reason to believe KWP will be very good and we know Rose can be very good. Spend the money elsewhere.

If KWP is ready and we can get a decent fee I'd sell Aurier. Im not sure he can be coached.

I would give Aurier the summer/preseason and if he doesn't show rapid improvement then we should look at selling him. I agree that there is not a great need to spend money on fullbacks this summer. If Rose regains his form then we are in good shape at LB/LWB (though that remains to be seen). I would like to see KWP and Keanan Bennetts from the U23s get some time at RB and LWB/LB (Bennetts) during the ICC this summer. Its a shame KWP didn't get more matches in the PL this season.

 

[St José Dominguez]

Rose is the best full back at the club, he needs to get fit and be first choice next season with Davies as the rotational option. If he's leaving we need to buy a player of his ilk to fit what we need from a full back and be first choice.

Trippier will never be good enough and should be sold. I'm willing to give Aurier a second season even though he's not impressed but I would have KWP as back up and rotational option. If it does go tits up for Aurier then Poch will be forced to give KWP a shot that I'm certain he'll grab as he's an extremely talented young RB and it'll save us a shit tonne of money taking another punt on a RB rather than giving him a shot.

 

[DCSPUR]

Davies + Tierney
Trippier + KWP

 

[yankspurs]

Rose is the best FB at the club. Davies is a good back up. Up to you if you want to improve upon him. I sincerely hope we dont sell Rose.

At RB, the options should be Aurier and KWP. Trippier is not good enough for us. Sell him. Promote KWP. Give Aurier a pre season and a 2nd season with Poch.

 

[spurs mental]

Trippier and Davies are fine in a 4. They aren't good enough in a 5 as neither are quick enough to play the wing back roll. It depends how Poch wants us to set up going forward.

I'm fine with the two of them as back ups but they aren't really strong enough to be starting every week for a team that wants to win things.

Aurier, he might be good enough if the full back whisperer can work some more magic.

I personally liked how we could change and adapt last season from a 4 to a 5 and back to a 4 within games, due to injuries to Toby and now it looks like Jan, we haven't been able to do that at all this season. I'd like us to be able to go back to being able to do it next one. It also means Dier is an important member of the squad and should start more often as he's the one that's able to drop in to make the 3 and allow the wing backs to bomb on, but we will only be able to do so if we have high quality players in those positions.

 

[TheHoddleWaddle]

If it came down to priorities I'd like to see the cm role improved before anywhere else. But if the club wanted to seriously mount a title challenge (We are still a long way off it imo) then the wing back positions need upgrading. I like Davies and trippier, they are good players both. But as already mentioned, have been exposed against quality opposition and wouldn't feature in a world beating side. The Poch system.of play relies on wingback power houses with both pace and delivery.

Improving both CM (someone who can pass) and wing backs would be ideal but obviously highly unlikely. £££.

Rose used to be good. Remains to be seen what's happening with him in terms of future and fitness.

Aurier I've not seen anything particularly positive to suggest he can offer more than trippier. In fact, I feel much better about things when i see trippier on the sheet. He's not terrible, but if he can't deliver a decent cross with consistency what's the point? His defensive play is cringingly reckless at times. He doesn't look that quick to me either.
(I don't dislike Aurier, I just dont think he's likely to make us any better).

But upgrading is easier said than done. Especially finding a player with all the required attributes. £££££

 

[tiger666]

well then we should have kept walker

And just how could we have kept Walker when he wanted to leave?

 

[Spurslove]

And just how could we have kept Walker when he wanted to leave?

Simple. Just tell him not to be tempted by a financially doped team who were probably going to be Premier League champions, managed by the former boss of Barcelona, or by a club prepared to triple his current wages.

I mean seriously, if you give it to them straight, they usually get where you're coming from and eventually agree with you.

.

 

[brendanb50]

For my money the pecking order is Rose>Davies>Trippier>Aurier.

If Rose can sort his head out then all we need to do is make amends for last summer's Walker replacement screwup. If he doesn't, then we need two new fullbacks.

Agree with this - not Rose at present but Rose when fit and hungry is a top full back.

For me, Davies is solid and a perfect squad full back, he's occasionally better than that but IMO - having meaningful competition for his space helps his game.

Similarly with Trippier, having a proper RB to compete is key and whilst i think he's less solid than Davies defensively, he has a bit more in going forward. Not consistent enough for me though but as a squad option he's still good enough IMO, just perhaps not a perfect first choice.

Aurier? Well i think he's got a hell of a lot of ability, both defensively and going forward, probably more than Davies and Trippier in many ways but he lacks a level head and his consistency is very questionable. If we keep hold of him, i'd expect Poch will be working him very hard in training to get these things right. If he can get more focus into his game and a bit more sharpness he may well be excellent but that's a big if.

The more disappointing thing for me this year has been the lack of play time for KWP. With the level of inconsistency in our full backs and the lack of certain attributes in them, i'd have felt he was good to get more involvement, perhaps as a LB is pushing it but certainly as a RB for certain games. I've always said, i'd rather it were KWP making some errors in a game and learning from them, than a fairly seasoned pro like Aurier/Trippier doing the same.