Game for Game Comparison 16-17

[philip]

The problem is/was - that last year was an anomaly. All the usual big teams had a bad season due to transition and alike. Normal service will be restored this season with the added fact that teams like Liverpool and Chelsea will fair much better now that they have settled managers who have already proven they are worth their salt.
It doesn't matter how you slice and dice it and how you look at or use statistics and figures, but the facts remain that both Liverpool and Chelsea will be up there at the end of the season, on top of that City will be there too and Arse there or thereabouts. That's not even adding Utd in the mix who I also believe will come good after the new year. So realistically, we can only expect 6th-7th this season based on how we have been playing so far. And so far mean a slow steady downward trajectory, not an upwards one. So unless players like Eriksen, Dele, Son, Kane and Lamela start scoring goals regularly and consistently we aren't going to break the top 4. That prediction is based purely on the fact that we need to at least equal or better our goal scoring exploits of last season and so far we aren't on course to do that.

I disagree with you about Liverpool.
Despite not having any European games to disrupt their preparations and injure their players, they are lucky to be 4 points ahead of us.
Their defence will be their downfall. If they do try and tighten up it'll effect their attacking play and if they don't they'll continue to draw and lose games they should have won. We'll finish above them.

Also think we've got an excellent chance of finishing above Man Utd. They are not a great team, just have a couple of excellent attackers.

 

[spursfan77]

I think the rest of December is important for us. All the games this month are now winnable. If we can recreate the form of last season over the same period then we will be in great shape.

 

[DiscoD1882]

would be good to have a premier league table side by side to match this year with last year. see in real terms where teams are.

 

[DiscoD1882]

Ok got bored and did it myself. This is the comparison after 16 games last season, obviously the teams that went down have been replaced. Burnley- Newcastle, Boro - Norwich, Hull - Aston Villa.

 

[Roynie]

Let's hope we do better against Burnley this weekend than we did against Newcastle last season, we lost that one 2 - 1!

 

[Lighty64]

As I mentioned in the OP there will be times it will be hard to update, and until the Southampton game I've not much time on my hands due to it being the busy period for us taxi drivers, so please be patient, will try and do the Hull and Burnley game soon, but now off to bed to grab 4hours kip

 

[Lighty64]

OP updated (sorry for delay)

December 15/16 - 16/17- -/+ - (15/16 fixtures in game order)
Hull (h) (A Villa) W 3-1 - W 3-0 - -2 - (15/16 Newcastle 1-2 +4)


Total: 30pt
Current projection: 68pts

 

[npearl4spurs]

aren't we on 30 points?

 

[Lighty64]

aren't we on 30 points?

tired and lazy, done more hours this week just gone than i've done most months, 1 more heavy week to do and providing next year goes as i hope i won't have another hectic month till next December

 

[Lighty64]

OP updated

December 15/16 - 16/17- -/+ - (15/16 fixtures in game order)
Burnley (h) (New'stle) L 3-1 - W 2-1 - +1 - (15/16 Southampton 2-0 +4)


Total: 33pt
Current projection: 71pts

finally got to alter the 68pts and heading for 1 point better off then last season. so we are 4pts better off after 17 games, and + 1 in the game comparisons.

we had scored 28 and conceded 14 by this time last season, this season we have scored 29 and conceded 12, which considering we aren't as entertaining we have scored 1 more goal, and conceded 2 less making it a +17 GD

 

[Lighty64]

OP updated

December 15/16 - 16/17- -/+ - (15/16 fixtures in game order)
Southampton (a) - W 2-0 - W 4-1 - +1 - (15/16 Norwich 3-0 +4)


Total: 36pt
Current projection: 71pts

we are 4pts better off after 18 games, and + 1 in the game comparisons.

we had scored 31 and conceded 14 by this time last season, this season we have scored 33 and conceded 13

 

[tiger666]

Most points we've ever had in a premier league year.

 

[Monkey Bastard Hands]

we are 4pts better off after 18 games, and + 1 in the game comparisons.

we had scored 31 and conceded 14 by this time last season, this season we have scored 33 and conceded 13

This is really interesting. Despite the fact that I, and probably most people on here, think that we have not hit our stride so far this season, and yet we are doing better than this time last year. It makes me a little bit tingly to think that when things click properly, we could go on and do quite well.

 

[npearl4spurs]

This is really interesting. Despite the fact that I, and probably most people on here, think that we have not hit our stride so far this season, and yet we are doing better than this time last year. It makes me a little bit tingly to think that when things click properly, we could go on and do quite well.

teams 8-20 seem less competitive this year IMO

 

[nightgoat]

teams 8-20 seem less competitive this year IMO

I'd say Chelsea, Man City, Liverpool, Man Utd, West Brom and Bournemouth are better than they were last season. Swansea, Palace, Leicester, West Ham and Stoke are poorer. Arsenal, Everton, Southampton, Watford and Sunderland are about the same. Unfortunately for us four of the improved teams are four of the five teams we're in direct competition with.

 

[Lighty64]

OP Updated

December 15/16 - 16/17- -/+ - (15/16 fixtures in game order)
Watford (a) W 2-1 - W 4-1 - +1 - (15/16 Watford 2-1 +4)


Total: 39pt
Current projection: 71pts

so after halfway we have 4pts more, scored 37 +4 goals, and conceded 13 1 less, though should of been 2

so our remaining matches last season in comparison terms are

Chelsea (h) - D - 0-0
West Brom (h) - D - 1-1
Man City (a) - W - 2-1
Sunderland (a) - W - 1-0
Middlesbrough (h) (Norwich) - W - 3-0
Liverpool (a) - D - 1-1
Stoke (h) - D - 2-2
Everton (h) - D - 0-0
Crystal Palace (a) - W - 3-1
Southampton (h) - L - 1-2
Burnley (a) (Newcastle) - L - 1-5
Swansea (a) - D - 2-2
Watford (h) - W - 1-0
Bournemouth (h) - W - 3-0
Leicester (a) - D - 1-1
Arsenal (h) - D - 2-2
West Ham (a) - L - 0-1
Man Utd (h) - W - 3-0
Hull (a) (Villa) - W - 2-0

we - won 8 - drew 8 and lost 3, where do you think we will improve on the 32pts we gained in them. I have highlighted my choices in different colours in what results I think will happen, though I haven't added the scores. win = blue, green = draw, orange (as I hate red) = loss

I have us down for 4 extra wins, 5 draws and 1 less loss, yes most probably very optimistic, though toyed with WBA being a draw. if my predictions were to happen we would finish with 80pts 10 extra and will finish top 4, but will miss out on the glory as unfortunately i can see Chelsea taking over 32 in their remaining fixtures.

 

[dougie]

Some of those draws/losses last year look more than winnable with very few surprise wins (City away?)...

 

[Neon_Knight_]

please accept my apologies for a bit of laziness, as the few lines below have been pinched from the start of last seasons thread by @nicdic (sorry nicdic)

January 15/16 - 16/17- -/+ - (15/16 fixtures in game order)
Watford (a) W 2-1 - W 4-1 - +1 - (15/16 Watford 2-1 +4)
Chelsea (h) D 0-0 - ? - ? - (15/16 Everton 1-1 ?)


Total: 39pt
Current projection: 71pts

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we only have +1 point in the game for game comparison at the halfway stage, if we have +4 points in reality? Surely the two should match up at the halfway point, as we have played every team once both in game for game and actual.

 

[Lighty64]

Sorry if I'm being stupid, but how do we only have +1 point in the game for game comparison at the halfway stage, if we have +4 points in reality? Surely the two should match up at the halfway point, as we have played every team once both in game for game and actual.

the comparison = the exact game from last season, the +4 is what we have yes, but matching the games up to last season (promoted teams replacing relegated) and we have only gained 1pt. had we drew with Chelsea and beat Bournemouth like we did last season we would of had +4, but been 7pts more than after 19 games

 

[Neon_Knight_]

the comparison = the exact game from last season, the +4 is what we have yes, but matching the games up to last season (promoted teams replacing relegated) and we have only gained 1pt. had we drew with Chelsea and beat Bournemouth like we did last season we would of had +4, but been 7pts more than after 19 games

I'm still confused

If the relegated teams are replaced by the newly promoted teams, for the purposes of the comparison, I don't understand how the two totals are different. Where exactly do those three points go missing?