Gareth Bale

[BringBack_leGin]

he might be in good form atm but it's evident he can't play every game I'm a big fan of Dembele but I think we need to use him sparingly from now on. CM would be the first position I'd be looking to strengthen, and a player with Modric's skillset feeding the runs and movement of our front four would take us to another level imo. It might also stop Dier trying to play like Pirlo which he clearly can't.

Agree with all you say in terms of the skill set and position we need, but the issue with Modric is he’s about to be 33. That isn’t to say Modric isn’t still more than good enough, he’s a great player who would improve us. However, whoever comes in to compete with, then bit by bit replace Dembele, needs to have a good few years ahead of him still or we’ll just need to buy two more in a while.

If it looked like either Winks or Onomah, or preferably both, were up to task but merely needed more time to be ready, then Modric or similar would be fine. Sadly I don’t think we can bank on either ever realistically being good enough to be first choice. Ergo, any new number 8 needs to be the right side of his prime.

 

[Trix]

Agree with all you say in terms of the skill set and position we need, but the issue with Modric is he’s about to be 33. That isn’t to say Modric isn’t still more than good enough, he’s a great player who would improve us. However, whoever comes in to compete with, then bit by bit replace Dembele, needs to have a good few years ahead of him still or we’ll just need to buy two more in a while.

If it looked like either Winks or Onomah, or preferably both, were up to task but merely needed more time to be ready, then Modric or similar would be fine. Sadly I don’t think we can bank on either ever realistically being good enough to be first choice. Ergo, any new number 8 needs to be the right side of his prime.

Yeah, like I have said in previous posts a player with Modri's skillset, and that is why I have said it's the position in which we need to spend big this summer.

 

[hutchiniho]

I love our club’s philosophy of buying and investing in young talent and Poch is a master in promoting and bringing young players to fruition.
Although,
We have our best squad in decades, right now, that isn’t far off winning trophies. I wouldn’t have any problem in buying one or two players that will help us to realise trophy success next season. Our window for opportunity is wide open. Buying young talent will of course extend this window but one or two class signings should fulfil and realise our potential here and now.

Bale is still world class.
One or two seasons of Modric.
Whoever that quality is, would we be more likely to win something next season with them in the squad?

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Yeah, like I have said in previous posts a player with Modri's skillset, and that is why I have said it's the position in which we need to spend big this summer.

Issue is, we can’t afford a play even nearing his prime who can do what Modric, or even Dembele, can do, unless there’s a massive catch (Moura and Aurier for instance). With central midfield, a player with a catch is a very big risk as the rest of the team relies on the midfield being up to scratch. I actually think our only real option is to find someone at the same stage of development as Winks or Onomah, but with a much higher ceiling. It stands to reason that this player would be trusted with far more minutes, which would both aids that player’s development and allow Dembele to conserve himself and hopefully gain longevity. Problem is, I’ll be fucked if I know who that is.

 

[Trix]

Issue is, we can’t afford a play even nearing his prime who can do what Modric, or even Dembele, can do, unless there’s a massive catch (Moura and Aurier for instance). With central midfield, a player with a catch is a very big risk as the rest of the team relies on the midfield being up to scratch. I actually think our only real option is to find someone at the same stage of development as Winks or Onomah, but with a much higher ceiling. It stands to reason that this player would be trusted with far more minutes, which would both aids that player’s development and allow Dembele to conserve himself and hopefully gain longevity. Problem is, I’ll be fucked if I know who that is.

You might be right regarding price, although I do expect our budget to jump significantly this Summer. That said the reason we are talking about this at all is because I said I'd prefer to spend any money we would spend on Bale on a CM. That would (hypothetically speaking) be a significant amount.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

There are many reasons for this. Age, injury history etc not just about quality

yeh but they would be off set commercially. Bale back would probably weirdly be the 'cheaper' option. Either way I probably would go for neither, but for football and for business Bale is the only choice of the two.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

Would they cost roughly the same?

So then its a choice between a player who could be as good as Bale was for the next 15 years or a player who might be as good as he was for the next 5, i know which is a safer bet, neither is more likely than the other.

There really is no comparison. Sess is never ever going to get to bales level. Doesn't have enough in his locker and personally don't rate him. I saw Bale under Jol playing left Mid at 17/18 against Man Utd, IIRC the game he got injured and set back his career especially at LM. He was tearing Utd a new hole with his direct running and dribbling with the ball. Ive seen both at the same age…Bale was far far far (another 7 far's) ahead of Sess. No comparison.

 

[@Bobby__Lucky]

As I have put in here before this is one of the reasons why bale is unhappy his own team think he has gained to much weight with muscle and the lactic acid causes fatigue in his muscles etc. Can’t really remember what I was told.

Some of his camp actually think it’s what has caused his injuries. He’s had a bit of a falling out with a few of the staff at Madrid. Zidane is fuming at that hat trick.

For what it’s worth he’s now unhappy at real. That’s the first time I have been told that as well I normally here he’s just waiting to get back to fitness or he’s working hard confident he will be back in the team soon. He needs to be loved to be at his best for me the best place for that is here although I have a sad feeling he’s going to end up at one of our blue or red rivals.

He’s also investing so much in wales at the moment commercially. Own golf course, restaurants there’s one to come in London later this year as well.

For what it’s worth I would swap Toby for him

Id swap Toby for him too…all day.

 

[scat1620]

Ergo, any new number 8 needs to be the right side of his prime.

Fuck off, BBLG, this is Spurs Community, not a Matrix sequel.

 

[BringBack_leGin]

Fuck off, BBLG, this is Spurs Community, not a Matrix sequel.

I’d have been a great architect, you can be sure everyone here would discuss things far more concordantly with one another.

 

[DCSPUR]

he might be in good form atm but it's evident he can't play every game I'm a big fan of Dembele but I think we need to use him sparingly from now on. CM would be the first position I'd be looking to strengthen, and a player with Modric's skillset feeding the runs and movement of our front four would take us to another level imo. It might also stop Dier trying to play like Pirlo which he clearly can't.

fair enough mate...i do understand what you are saying but still disagree. Am assuming the Wanyama will be at full speed next season and hopefully Dier stays fit as well. That allows us to rotate the DM position and fill the more imaginative berth with either a fit Dembele or Winks (if fit) or, and would love to see this tried more, Eriksen dropping in or even Alli.

Almost have to admit that Modders profound lack of loyalty (the Chelsea move) is still a problem

 

[Trix]

fair enough mate...i do understand what you are saying but still disagree. Am assuming the Wanyama will be at full speed next season and hopefully Dier stays fit as well. That allows us to rotate the DM position and fill the more imaginative berth with either a fit Dembele or Winks (if fit) or, and would love to see this tried more, Eriksen dropping in or even Alli.

Almost have to admit that Modders profound lack of loyalty (the Chelsea move) is still a problem

I like winks and think he's a good little player, but ATM I still see him as a lesser player(than those around him) when we are at full strength.

 

[punkisback]

There really is no comparison. Sess is never ever going to get to bales level. Doesn't have enough in his locker and personally don't rate him. I saw Bale under Jol playing left Mid at 17/18 against Man Utd, IIRC the game he got injured and set back his career especially at LM. He was tearing Utd a new hole with his direct running and dribbling with the ball. Ive seen both at the same age…Bale was far far far (another 7 far's) ahead of Sess. No comparison.

That was his debut.

 

[SpartanSpur]

I know there's a lot of clamour for a deep lying playmaker type but I can really see Eriksen developing into that role for us, especially if we improve our attacking line with Bale or if Moura hits it off. He is already evolving in that direction now anyway.

 

[Sir Henry]

I know who the two guys are in your avatar but it still gives me the creeps. They just look remarkably similar to gooner shirts and with a username like "Henry", I tend to regard anything you post with subliminal caution.

You don't know who SIR HENRY Percy is ? Know your history, I doubt a so called supporter that knows fuck all about the club he/she claims to support.

 

[Sir Henry]

Sorry but this is just sensationalist horse shit, 6 games season?

You are such a Donki.

 

[DJS]

There really is no comparison. Sess is never ever going to get to bales level. Doesn't have enough in his locker and personally don't rate him. I saw Bale under Jol playing left Mid at 17/18 against Man Utd, IIRC the game he got injured and set back his career especially at LM. He was tearing Utd a new hole with his direct running and dribbling with the ball. Ive seen both at the same age…Bale was far far far (another 7 far's) ahead of Sess. No comparison.

Way waaaaaay too earlier to be making such a bold statement and you could well be made to look rather silly in the upcoming years...

Like the dude who said he would eat his underwear re: Kane (see one of my signatures below).

 

[DJS]

As I have put in here before this is one of the reasons why bale is unhappy his own team think he has gained to much weight with muscle and the lactic acid causes fatigue in his muscles etc. Can’t really remember what I was told.

Some of his camp actually think it’s what has caused his injuries. He’s had a bit of a falling out with a few of the staff at Madrid. Zidane is fuming at that hat trick.

For what it’s worth he’s now unhappy at real. That’s the first time I have been told that as well I normally here he’s just waiting to get back to fitness or he’s working hard confident he will be back in the team soon. He needs to be loved to be at his best for me the best place for that is here although I have a sad feeling he’s going to end up at one of our blue or red rivals.

He’s also investing so much in wales at the moment commercially. Own golf course, restaurants there’s one to come in London later this year as well.

For what it’s worth I would swap Toby for him

Why would Zidane be fuming at him for scoring a hat-trick?

Would make him a bit of a cock IMO as not Bale's fault everyone at Real sucks Ronaldo off and alienates anyone else daring to look better than him?

(Also someone over there as you said has messed up encouraging him to get so bulky).

 

[Trix]

I know there's a lot of clamour for a deep lying playmaker type but I can really see Eriksen developing into that role for us, especially if we improve our attacking line with Bale or if Moura hits it off. He is already evolving in that direction now anyway.

I'd rather we strengthen where we need to than bring in positions we are already set for, in the hope that someone else adapts. Eriksen is already very effective at what he does now, I'd rather compliment that than move him and hope he can do a different job as effectively. We have shoe horned enough players in in the past to know it rarely works out for the best.

 

[Donki]

You are such a Donki.

Lol mhmmmmm that's oridginal.