Gareth Bale

[Ghost Hardware]

Bale is everything we need to take us to that next level. He doesn't just win you games, he wins you cups. He has done it more then once for RM and he is one of the top 5 players in the world. He is the definition of a big game player and that is a commodity every team needs. Having his experience around the team would also be invaluable.

Obviously, because of our financial structure it most likely won't be feasible. And I very much doubt it will happen. But regardless, it does seem his time at RM is done. His post match interview was pretty incendiary all things considered. One thing for sure, it's going to be interesting to see how this all plays out even though it will likely end with our, all be it tempered, disappointment.

 

[cider spurs]

My guess is Levy is not willing to make the next step in terms of being a big club that pays big wages.

What? He means signing Bale is far more of a Levy thing than a Poch thing. Levy is the one who would love to sign Bale.

Am I missing the point...or others.

No doubt Poch would love Bale back at Spurs, he said as much a while ago.

But what I do believe is that Poch does not want to entertain his potential signing if it means we cannot acquire key signings in areas he has identified as wanting.

This is where the "Levy" signing is getting lost IMO...If Levy can work some magic with the number crunching, we may just pull it off along with Poch getting the areas he's identified as paramount to improve.

Hence it's down to Levy.

...and yes, there are the wages and fallout from that to consider.

 

[Keefo]

Who the fudge would want Martial AND Bale?
I respect all opinions, that is all opinions that are remotely valid and somewhat thought-through. However, I wonder about the aggregated level of opposition to the idea of signing Bale. I can't help but thinking that if a different player on the exactly same level as Bale and in the same position but who had never played for Spurs before, if such a player had an interested of coming to us, would we not all want that player, almost no matter subsequent consequences? So why is it then that because it's Bale, we keep coming up with rationales for not sining him?

It's a type of a player that we could never sign. NEVER. Yes, once every decade maybe we develop a player internally who reaches that level, but never could we dream of sining such a player from Real Madrid. Yet here we are, talking about the serious possibility of it. And about why we must turn it down and move on.

I'm not saying we'll sign martial and bale,I used martial as an example of a big money signing.If we buy a 50m Cm do you think he would take low wages?I don't think so.

 

[Lighty64]

I would be over the moon to get Bale, but not so happy if it means Poch isn't happy. it has to be a Poch choice, and Levy to go get him. if Poch feels/knows for definite it would prevent him getting a CM and CB because of finances then Martial might be the option.

we need to do whatever it takes to make the whole squad we have now, and Poch happy. if the feel around the squad means they weren't happy to have a player earning an extra £?K more than them, then that means the togetherness could well get damaged. Don't get me wrong as they are all on different amounts anyway, and most probably by the start of the season will see an increase of approx 50% with their new contracts, but if Bale would cause unrest then I'd rather shop elsewhere.

I know if we re-signed him there would be around a 99.9% of our support would be over the moon, and I really believe the money it would bring to the club would be massive, but if it effects the squad and managers happiness then I would happily (with a sad face) miss out

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

I'm not saying we'll sign martial and bale,I used martial as an example of a big money signing.If we buy a 50m Cm do you think he would take low wages?I don't think so.

Got you. I think we can afford to sign Bale and one other great player, and in reality I think that would be an out-of-this-world window. CM is a real challenge, and if we sign Bale I think we'd get a CM too and end up being a bit light at CB. But heck, let's live a little. At the end of the day, it's only football, but let's bring home one of the best players in the world.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Think far too many people are trying to work out how Bale would fit into our net spend. That seems like the easy part. It’s the wages that would hurt the most, even assuming he takes a massive pay cut, and worse it’s the change to our wage structure that then affects what other players and agents ask for. How can we justify not paying Kane nearly as much on his next contract? Then Lloris, then Christian... everyone still here seems to have agreed to the idea of progressive smaller pay rises as our finances improve, and dumping a new player in what would have to be at least 150k/wk if not closer to double that could upset things seriously - even one of Bale’s quality.

Understandably, many people have said the wages will be the issue, but as many have pointed out in response, Real Madrid own his image rights at the moment. That will obviously not be the case IF he is sold. So, the way around the wage differential, is to hand him back his full image rights.

I've had a look around to somehow try to find out how much of a stumbling block the wages could be, and also attempt to ascertain some sort of idea as to why he may actually not "Need" to be paid what he's currently being paid. The info below is about as good as I could find, but I did find it interesting..........


Gareth Bale's Net Worth

Gareth has been making waves in the football world since having his professional debut at the age of 16, and has always been praised for his crossing ability, speed, and of course, his superhuman left foot. He currently plays for Wale’s national football team as well as for Real Madrid, and is one of the highest paid athletes in the world. Gareth has definitely come a long way, and he only keeps getting better each season!

Business Ventures

Gareth, who is one of the richest athletes in the world right now, handles a couple promising businesses. He has put up a company called Primesure Limited, which takes care of all his professional affairs. The athlete shelled out his entire image rights fortune amounting to $16 million to make it happen. He owns 60% of it, while the remaining 40% is owned by no other than her mom and dad. It was reportedly Gareth’s way of saying thank you to his doting parents, who supported him since the very start of his career.

What sponsors does Gareth Bale have?

Bale is one of the faces of Adidas and reportedly signed a new deal with the company in 2014.

That deal is claimed to be worth £20m over six years while Bale also featured recently for Nissan and Foot Locker.

He also has deals with Lucozade and EA Sports, so isn’t short on work off the pitch.

What is Gareth Bale’s net worth?

Bale was the 24th highest-paid athlete in 2017, according to Forbes.

When you combine his salary and endorsements, the Welshman earned $34m (£25.5m).

As the likes of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo move deeper into their 30s, Bale’s stock could considerably rise.

And with transfer speculation already rising, a new bumper contract at Madrid or elsewhere may not be far away.

https://sport.one/gareth-bales-net-worth/

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...e-net-worth-Real-Madrid-earnings-salary-wages

 

[dagraham]

Bale wages would also change the scenario.For example we have 50m to buy martial but could we afford to pay him and Bale at the same time?I think not.

Why on earth would we need to buy Martial and Bale? We only need a CB if Toby leaves, and one of the reasons we’re selling him now is to get a big fee before the release clause kicks in, which would presumably be invested in a quality replacement.

We don’t need a LB if Rose stays so the only position is CM. Meanwhile we have a load of deadwood to sell like Llorente, Jansen, N’kouduo etc plus any fee for Dembele. And we have a third successive season of CL revenue, with TV revenues still on the rise.

We will need some form of net investment in players if we want to get to this “next level” Poch is referring to. Not on a City, Utd level obviously, but selling established key players and just buying highly rated prospects won’t get us there imo.

Of course if Bale stills expects Real or Utd wages then it’s not feasible at all.

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

Understandably, many people have said the wages will be the issue, but as many have pointed out in response, Real Madrid own his image rights at the moment. That will obviously not be the case IF he is sold. So, the way around the wage differential, is to hand him back his full image rights.

I've had a look around to somehow try to find out how much of a stumbling block the wages could be, and also attempt to ascertain some sort of idea as to why he may actually not "Need" to be paid what he's currently being paid. The info below is about as good as I could find, but I did find it interesting..........


Gareth Bale's Net Worth

Gareth has been making waves in the football world since having his professional debut at the age of 16, and has always been praised for his crossing ability, speed, and of course, his superhuman left foot. He currently plays for Wale’s national football team as well as for Real Madrid, and is one of the highest paid athletes in the world. Gareth has definitely come a long way, and he only keeps getting better each season!

Business Ventures

Gareth, who is one of the richest athletes in the world right now, handles a couple promising businesses. He has put up a company called Primesure Limited, which takes care of all his professional affairs. The athlete shelled out his entire image rights fortune amounting to $16 million to make it happen. He owns 60% of it, while the remaining 40% is owned by no other than her mom and dad. It was reportedly Gareth’s way of saying thank you to his doting parents, who supported him since the very start of his career.

What sponsors does Gareth Bale have?

Bale is one of the faces of Adidas and reportedly signed a new deal with the company in 2014.

That deal is claimed to be worth £20m over six years while Bale also featured recently for Nissan and Foot Locker.

He also has deals with Lucozade and EA Sports, so isn’t short on work off the pitch.

What is Gareth Bale’s net worth?

Bale was the 24th highest-paid athlete in 2017, according to Forbes.

When you combine his salary and endorsements, the Welshman earned $34m (£25.5m).

As the likes of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo move deeper into their 30s, Bale’s stock could considerably rise.

And with transfer speculation already rising, a new bumper contract at Madrid or elsewhere may not be far away.

https://sport.one/gareth-bales-net-worth/

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...e-net-worth-Real-Madrid-earnings-salary-wages

The Express and grammar are not comfortable bedfellows

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

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where are we weak at CB ? We have Dier Sanchez Verts Foyth and CCV plus if we sell Toby that’s extra funds for a new CB if you believe ITK not part of the original pot

Weaker areas! I don’t think it’s particularly weak compared to a lot of teams but compared to our options in forward areas I think it’s weaker. Sanchez and Especially Vertonghen are very good, after that I’m not as convinced. Dier for me is too slow on the turn and ball watches, he lets players get behind him to often. Foyth I like the look of but he’s still very green and CCV will not make it at this level in my opinion of course. Towards the end of the season we were getting cut open more and more culminating in the Newcastle and Leicester games where they got behind us far to much. part was due to our midfield who couldn’t look after the ball or close down space but our CBs got exposed especially without Vertonghen against Leicester. If you think we’re strong at CB why are you talking about funds for a new one?

The thing is people always get more excited by attacking signings but I’m personally of the belief that if you sort out the defence and midfield youll have a better chance to build a winning side.

De Ligt would make us a better side than Martial would

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

What sponsors does Gareth Bale have?

Bale is one of the faces of Adidas and reportedly signed a new deal with the company in 2014.

That deal is claimed to be worth £20m over six years while Bale also featured recently for Nissan and Foot Locker.

He also has deals with Lucozade and EA Sports, so isn’t short on work off the pitch.

IM not so very HO, THIS is why Bale needs a move this summer (back to us ). Posters go on and on about the value of the weekly transfer of money from the club to the player, as if THAT's the number one way for a world star like Bale to make money. Bale needs to keep him self current, popular, well-known, in the media and on peoples lips. Not because the club he plays for sends him X thousands every week, but to maintain (or raise) his personal marketing value. Rotting on the bench in a league that's quite forgettable apart from 2-4 teams, that's not a way to earn a living. Being a star above all stars in the best league in the world, and the marketing value that comes with it, THAT'S how he'll earn money. Whatever Uncle Danny will pay him is second to that.

 

[C0YS]

IM not so very HO, THIS is why Bale needs a move this summer (back to us ). Posters go on and on about the value of the weekly transfer of money from the club to the player, as if THAT's the number one way for a world star like Bale to make money. Bale needs to keep him self current, popular, well-known, in the media and on peoples lips. Not because the club he plays for sends him X thousands every week, but to maintain (or raise) his personal marketing value. Rotting on the bench in a league that's quite forgettable apart from 2-4 teams, that's not a way to earn a living. Being a star above all stars in the best league in the world, and the marketing value that comes with it, THAT'S how he'll earn money. Whatever Uncle Danny will pay him is second to that.

This is this counts against us. Hate to say it but Man utd at the moment is a place where he will be more marketable. His agents will know that.

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

Pochettino is on record in both 2015 and 6 months ago that Gareth Bale is welcome back at Tottenham

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32623291

https://www.aol.co.uk/video/view/ma...tenham/5a2ac8a61de5a141399ff922/?guccounter=1

just saying

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

The Express and grammar are not comfortable bedfellows

I was just trying to give people something to (hopefully) help to understand why we may not have to think about the £350k p/w that he's currently earning at Madrid. Sorry.

 

[Derryank]

Remember as well Poch was asked a while ago would he love to sign Messi to which he replied he'd rather find the next Messi and help turn him into a superstar. I'm sure Poch is just like everyone else if money was no object and he could get Bale plus the others he would jump at the chance.
That's just my opinion though.

Thanks @Trix . Much like others, Poch has a budget that he must operate within. Why blow it all on one position, when the truth is, you need to address other positions too.

Hoping Joe Lewis gives us fans a nice present for our new Stadium...

COYS

 

[tiger666]

I was just trying to give people something to (hopefully) help to understand why we may not have to think about the £350k p/w that he's currently earning at Madrid. Sorry.

after tax..

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Weaker areas! I don’t think it’s particularly weak compared to a lot of teams but compared to our options in forward areas I think it’s weaker. Sanchez and Especially Vertonghen are very good, after that I’m not as convinced. Dier for me is too slow on the turn and ball watches, he lets players get behind him to often. Foyth I like the look of but he’s still very green and CCV will not make it at this level in my opinion of course. Towards the end of the season we were getting cut open more and more culminating in the Newcastle and Leicester games where they got behind us far to much. part was due to our midfield who couldn’t look after the ball or close down space but our CBs got exposed especially without Vertonghen against Leicester. If you think we’re strong at CB why are you talking about funds for a new one?

The thing is people always get more excited by attacking signings but I’m personally of the belief that if you sort out the defence and midfield youll have a better chance to build a winning side.

De Ligt would make us a better side than Martial would

You sort of answered yourself there. That defence had Sissoko & a damaged Wanyama protecting it. There was almost zero protection for the back line. I think you've been a bit harsh on our defenders, to be honest. To be as poor as you suggest, but still end the season with the 3rd best defensive record in the Premier League, despite playing most of the season without Alderweireld, it surely can't be half as poor / fragile a you seem to believe?

 

[ButchCassidy]

Understandably, many people have said the wages will be the issue, but as many have pointed out in response, Real Madrid own his image rights at the moment. That will obviously not be the case IF he is sold. So, the way around the wage differential, is to hand him back his full image rights.

I've had a look around to somehow try to find out how much of a stumbling block the wages could be, and also attempt to ascertain some sort of idea as to why he may actually not "Need" to be paid what he's currently being paid. The info below is about as good as I could find, but I did find it interesting..........


Gareth Bale's Net Worth

Gareth has been making waves in the football world since having his professional debut at the age of 16, and has always been praised for his crossing ability, speed, and of course, his superhuman left foot. He currently plays for Wale’s national football team as well as for Real Madrid, and is one of the highest paid athletes in the world. Gareth has definitely come a long way, and he only keeps getting better each season!

Business Ventures

Gareth, who is one of the richest athletes in the world right now, handles a couple promising businesses. He has put up a company called Primesure Limited, which takes care of all his professional affairs. The athlete shelled out his entire image rights fortune amounting to $16 million to make it happen. He owns 60% of it, while the remaining 40% is owned by no other than her mom and dad. It was reportedly Gareth’s way of saying thank you to his doting parents, who supported him since the very start of his career.

What sponsors does Gareth Bale have?

Bale is one of the faces of Adidas and reportedly signed a new deal with the company in 2014.

That deal is claimed to be worth £20m over six years while Bale also featured recently for Nissan and Foot Locker.

He also has deals with Lucozade and EA Sports, so isn’t short on work off the pitch.

What is Gareth Bale’s net worth?

Bale was the 24th highest-paid athlete in 2017, according to Forbes.

When you combine his salary and endorsements, the Welshman earned $34m (£25.5m).

As the likes of Lionel Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo move deeper into their 30s, Bale’s stock could considerably rise.

And with transfer speculation already rising, a new bumper contract at Madrid or elsewhere may not be far away.

https://sport.one/gareth-bales-net-worth/

https://www.express.co.uk/sport/foo...e-net-worth-Real-Madrid-earnings-salary-wages

I guess I’m not sure what your point is... Yes, Garett is wealthy. Most top athletes are. I’m sure any of them could volunteer to play for free if they wanted, but none are because that’s silly. They know what they are worth and want to be paid fairly. Gareths love for the club and willingness to be paid less for it are the only reason we can even have a conversation. Taking a massive pay cut is a given if we are even considering him moving to ours. That’s not even in question, as far as I can see. He gets paid something absurd like 600k/week at the moment, we can’t (and won’t) even afford half of that. So yeah, I guess it’s possible that he’s so rich that he just agrees to get paid in our existing wage structure (something like 125k/week is our current top, correct?), but it seems real unlikely. We aren’t gonna drop 70, 80M on a player and then tell them we can only afford 6M/year before taxes. And he’s be right to make the argument that we have more money now then ever, and that he’d be our biggest global star by some margin. So he gets 150, 175, maybe 200k instead, and he keeps his image rights. Still a big pay cut mind you, even with image rights and even assuming Madrid pay him 100k/week to leave which I think is a stretch.

Now he comes here and does pretty well, let’s say he scores 15 goals and 15 assists. Good season! Except Kane scored 25 and assisted 8, and now his agent is walking into the room going, what % of a Bale is my client worth? Clearly at least 80, 90%, maybe even even? Why can’t my client own his image rights as well? Wages are a slippery slope and there’s a reason we have held a strict structure for so long, and are now slowly expanding it as revenues rise. To break it for Bale would require us to be, in Poch’s words, “very brave”.

I’m not even opposed to the transfer, it would be massively exciting and could truly be what pushes us on to take that final step. But there’s an awful lot of people going “50M for Martial, 70M for Bale, what’s the difference?” And I think that’s very disingenuous. The transfer fee is the simplest part. There’s absolutely risk in this transfer, maybe more off the field than on. Are we brave enough for it? I guess we’ll find out.

 

[ButchCassidy]

Bale is a global star on a level above any of our current squad. If we want to be serious challengers we are going to have break this socialist notion that all the players get paid the same. Even if we don’t sign Bale then I would suggest that Kane’s next contract will put him apart from everyone else, just by force of simple market economics.

It’s not about paying everyone the same. It’s about having a wage structure, that sets the tone in discussions with agents. Saying youth players get paid around X, bench players get Y-Z, and our top players get consistent pay rises up to Q, gives what we do context and keeps everything on the level. And as far as I can see we’d probably have to double our current “top player” rate to even have a chance at Bale, and even then he’s probably taking close to a 50% haircut. It’s a dramatic change and one Levy and Poch would be taking very seriously.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

This is this counts against us. Hate to say it but Man utd at the moment is a place where he will be more marketable. His agents will know that.

Would like it if you qualified that by more than just posting a one-liner statement, because I don't see it that way at all. United as a club is more famous around the world and worth more, but being a player for United (as opposed to for Spurs) is not necessarily the same as getting a higher personal market value. The new stadium, the club's standing in the US, the boy returning home as a man, the continuous CL participation and playing in the same team as Kane, the personal marketing value of Bale after a Spurs return, to me, is not inferior to playing for United.

 

[daveduvet]

My personal feeling is he won’t sign. I believe we’d be better off without him, in the long term....
Conversely, I also think if we were to sign him for a season, his presence, spurs ambition etc would attract other higher calibre players....
it’s actually a tricky situation. Not a @yankspurs ‘bring him home situ; although I like his earnestness.
Boiling it down: I actually don’t know what is best!!! ?
Although I’d be sure £8.5 million would help me focus