Gareth Bale

[CoopsieDeadpool]

after tax..

Sorry, so? I said he earns £350 p/w at Madrid. Am I wrong? My whole post was more to do with how much he makes outside of his salary. I wasn't looking to piss on anyone's chips.

I'll try again. The following is taken from when he originally signed for Madrid......


Earlier this year he revealed how media savvy he was by trademarking his goal celebration, the “eleven of hearts”.

According to brand analyst Nigel Currie, this alone could make him up to £3m a year.

Now Bale can apply his personal signifier on headgear, footwear, jewellery and clothing as well as various leather goods including travelling bags and umbrellas.

Added to this, on top of the €7m a year he will earn, he gets to retain 60% of his image rights.

According to realmadridnews.com he becomes the first player to own more than 50% in that respect.

This in itself is staggering and an indicator of how Real Madrid see the player’s future.

The purchase of Bale is a sporting and commercial investment, and not financial mismanagement



Again, not looking to annoy anyone.

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

It’s not about paying everyone the same. It’s about having a wage structure, that sets the tone in discussions with agents. Saying youth players get paid around X, bench players get Y-Z, and our top players get consistent pay rises up to Q, gives what we do context and keeps everything on the level. And as far as I can see we’d probably have to double our current “top player” rate to even have a chance at Bale, and even then he’s probably taking close to a 50% haircut. It’s a dramatic change and one Levy and Poch would be taking very seriously.

He should have a 50% haircut, bloody hippy and that man bun jeez

 

[dagraham]

My personal feeling is he won’t sign. I believe we’d be better off without him, in the long term....
Conversely, I also think if we were to sign him for a season, his presence, spurs ambition etc would attract other higher calibre players....
it’s actually a tricky situation. Not a @yankspurs ‘bring him home situ; although I like his earnestness.
Boiling it down: I actually don’t know what is best!!! ?
Although I’d be sure £8.5 million would help me focus

Why is that? Just interested to know your reasoning there.

 

[spursgirls]

He should have a 50% haircut, bloody hippy and that man bun jeez

I think it's hiding a bald spot!

 

[the yid]

I think it's hiding a bald spot!

Nothing wrong with a bald spot

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

I think it's hiding a bald spot!

21st century comb over, interesting

 

[Guntz]

Pochettino is on record in both 2015 and 6 months ago that Gareth Bale is welcome back at Tottenham

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/32623291

https://www.aol.co.uk/video/view/ma...tenham/5a2ac8a61de5a141399ff922/?guccounter=1

just saying

He’s hardly going to say he wouldn’t want him in public though haha.

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

I guess I’m not sure what your point is... Yes, Garett is wealthy. Most top athletes are. I’m sure any of them could volunteer to play for free if they wanted, but none are because that’s silly. They know what they are worth and want to be paid fairly. Gareths love for the club and willingness to be paid less for it are the only reason we can even have a conversation. Taking a massive pay cut is a given if we are even considering him moving to ours. That’s not even in question, as far as I can see. He gets paid something absurd like 600k/week at the moment, we can’t (and won’t) even afford half of that. So yeah, I guess it’s possible that he’s so rich that he just agrees to get paid in our existing wage structure (something like 125k/week is our current top, correct?), but it seems real unlikely. We aren’t gonna drop 70, 80M on a player and then tell them we can only afford 6M/year before taxes. And he’s be right to make the argument that we have more money now then ever, and that he’d be our biggest global star by some margin. So he gets 150, 175, maybe 200k instead, and he keeps his image rights. Still a big pay cut mind you, even with image rights and even assuming Madrid pay him 100k/week to leave which I think is a stretch.

Now he comes here and does pretty well, let’s say he scores 15 goals and 15 assists. Good season! Except Kane scored 25 and assisted 8, and now his agent is walking into the room going, what % of a Bale is my client worth? Clearly at least 80, 90%, maybe even even? Why can’t my client own his image rights as well? Wages are a slippery slope and there’s a reason we have held a strict structure for so long, and are now slowly expanding it as revenues rise. To break it for Bale would require us to be, in Poch’s words, “very brave”.

I’m not even opposed to the transfer, it would be massively exciting and could truly be what pushes us on to take that final step. But there’s an awful lot of people going “50M for Martial, 70M for Bale, what’s the difference?” And I think that’s very disingenuous. The transfer fee is the simplest part. There’s absolutely risk in this transfer, maybe more off the field than on. Are we brave enough for it? I guess we’ll find out.

The point was (supposed to be) that he will regain full image rights, which is a bloody significant figure & something that could be used to offset the salary differential.

I understand I'm not the smartest person in the world & not great at getting things across on here, but I don't understand how people aren't getting the repeated statements from multiple members that have stated his image rights could be used for our benefit.

As for the bit about Bale & Kane scoring/assisting etc, again, as others have pointed out since last night. Once Kane (and any other current Spurs player) has won the CL multiple times, won his domestic league, scored winning goals in cup finals etc etc etc, his / their agent(s) can complain about being paid on a different level.

However, all of us on here KNOW that Levy is a chairman who makes his contracts more incentive based, and I've seen some people suggesting that, after taking all the goal scoring bonuses & CL qualification etc, young Mr Kane was actually earning not far off £300k p/w over the last 2 seasons himself.

 

[daveduvet]

Why is that? Just interested to know your reasoning there.

I think his ‘position’ in the team would upset the longer term plan - pochs plan of a fully functioning squad. My heart says I’d love him back. But, if we got him we’d forego others. As and when he’s out thru injury our back up team selection would be inferior. Conscious my articulation is not great on arguing my case; but I believe a ‘superstar’ would upset the equilibrium

Btw. I open to being convinced otherwise

 

[Spurs' Pipe Dreams]

He’s hardly going to say he wouldn’t want him in public though haha.

Well, that's a weird spin, I give you interviews in which he says he'd like GB and you take from that, he doesn't want him. We really do live in a post-truth world, I blame Trump

 

[ackie]

here's a scenario :
Bale to PSG plus cash for Neymar to RM.

Would Bale want to go? Probably not!
Does PSG have money to pay his wage? Probably yes!
Is this do-able? Yep!
Will it happen? Wait and see!

Is there a player we can sign from PSG? Yep!

 

[doctor stefan Freud]

I was just trying to give people something to (hopefully) help to understand why we may not have to think about the £350k p/w that he's currently earning at Madrid. Sorry.

Fucking should be

 

[kendoddsdadsdogsdead]

You sort of answered yourself there. That defence had Sissoko & a damaged Wanyama protecting it. There was almost zero protection for the back line. I think you've been a bit harsh on our defenders, to be honest. To be as poor as you suggest, but still end the season with the 3rd best defensive record in the Premier League, despite playing most of the season without Alderweireld, it surely can't be half as poor / fragile a you seem to believe?

Im saying the depth is not great. We would rely on Vertonghen and Sanchez staying fit through the whole season again if one of them picked up an injury like Alderweireld I wouldn’t be that confident. Not saying we need an overhaul just one really good CB when/if Toby leaves. Quoting Foyth, CCV and Dier(who doesn’t even want to play and I think is suspect there) is not going to cut it when push comes to shove.

 

[ilikeost]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...verhead-kick-latest-offer-wages-a8371531.html

"A return to Tottenham Hotspur has been mooted, but sources close to Bale's former club say he is considered far too expensive, and would greatly have to reduce wage demands for any deal to even be remotely possible. "

 

[Univarn]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...verhead-kick-latest-offer-wages-a8371531.html

"A return to Tottenham Hotspur has been mooted, but sources close to Bale's former club say he is considered far too expensive, and would greatly have to reduce wage demands for any deal to even be remotely possible. "

I don't think Bale is returning but Miguel Delaney... Man is a very snobbish crock who has gotten info in the past from transfer season popup fake twitter itks.

 

[hutchiniho]

I think his ‘position’ in the team would upset the longer term plan - pochs plan of a fully functioning squad. My heart says I’d love him back. But, if we got him we’d forego others. As and when he’s out thru injury our back up team selection would be inferior. Conscious my articulation is not great on arguing my case; but I believe a ‘superstar’ would upset the equilibrium

Btw. I open to being convinced otherwise

Is that the equilibrium of winning sod all in the last 30 years?

If you’re happy with staying at the level we are, each to their own.

I want us to sign players that will make us better, turn draws into wins, turn semi final appearances into cup victories. If Poch is worth his salt he should be jumping at the chance to sign a 3 time CL WINNER. He’s the one chirping about the next level.

Gone are the days of buying poxy Sissoko, Llorente, All of those little £10m N'flops in the last 2/3 seasons.

Love the project and it’s been good so far but We’ve got to break through the previous ceiling now, mentally and with results. Bale would do that instantly.

“Be brave” !!!

 

[hakano]

Just opinion but I expect you are looking at 30mil difference between the two that's half a top quality CM

Or a Janssen and N’ Kudou........If the financials are workable and we have to sacrifice a signing I think we should pursue it. The likes of Bale are the difference between success or being nearly men like we have over the last couple of seasons.

 

[hutchiniho]

https://www.independent.co.uk/sport...verhead-kick-latest-offer-wages-a8371531.html

"A return to Tottenham Hotspur has been mooted, but sources close to Bale's former club say he is considered far too expensive, and would greatly have to reduce wage demands for any deal to even be remotely possible. "

It’s been posted before, but a serious signing on bonus could offset the weekly wage figure.

200k a week with £15m up front equates to 300k over three years for example

Add the incentives and he’s quickly back to 350/400k

 

[CoopsieDeadpool]

Fucking should be

****

 

[hakano]

I get that.

Financially bale doesn't make any sense for us at all.

Why not? Better chance of success and commercially more attractive are reasons why financially it could make sense. Look at Chelsea and Nike as an example, they are getting double what we are because they are more attractive than us for Nike. That’s what he could do for us. He could elevate us like no other and hit the ground running. Imagine how excited the rest of the team to be to be playing in the same side as him.