General/Non-Spurs Transfers

[WiganSpur]

If they all hit the ground running like Salah did. No guarantee. Chill for a bit

No there isn't but I just find the complacency baffling. Just because we've finished above them 3 times in a row it doesn't mean we are going to do it again. We will get left behind if we don't get it right this window.

As i've said, if they get a decent keeper and a centre half on top of what they're currently doing, what are their weaknesses?

 

[spurs mental]

No there isn't but I just find the complacency baffling. Just because we've finished above them 3 times in a row it doesn't mean we are going to do it again. We will get left behind if we don't get it right this window.

As i've said, if they get a decent keeper and a centre half on top of what they're currently doing, what are their weaknesses?

Have you watched Liverpool attempt to manage their way through a game? They can't do it. It's absolutely baffling but they still shit the bed every time they are ahead and the ball comes in their box. That comes from the coach not actually working on the defensive side of the game. Klopp only cares about attacking. A defender and goalkeeper isn't going to change his tactics. It might make it easier for him to attack but I'm not overly concerned unless they show signs that they can manage their way through a game like we've shown this season.

 

[Spurrific]

No there isn't but I just find the complacency baffling. Just because we've finished above them 3 times in a row it doesn't mean we are going to do it again. We will get left behind if we don't get it right this window.

As i've said, if they get a decent keeper and a centre half on top of what they're currently doing, what are their weaknesses?

It’s been the same exact story for the past 5 years pal. They integrate a whole new midfield in Fabinho, Fekir and Keita as well as a new CB - that’ll take time. And, as with Bakayoko - there’s no guarantee Fabinho will do the business in the prem.

 

[mill]

Fabinho would be a very impressive signing for them, they could have a very good midfield come next season

 

[WiganSpur]

Have you watched Liverpool attempt to manage their way through a game? They can't do it. It's absolutely baffling but they still shit the bed every time they are ahead and the ball comes in their box. That comes from the coach not actually working on the defensive side of the game. Klopp only cares about attacking. A defender and goalkeeper isn't going to change his tactics. It might make it easier for him to attack but I'm not overly concerned unless they show signs that they can manage their way through a game like we've shown this season.

They're improving every season. Klopp looked clueless when he first came, but he's slowly but surely cutting the silliness and comical defending out. I thought Van Dijk would prove to be a waste of money but he's actually done OK for them. The glaring weakness is obviously goalkeeper, but surely they're going to address that.

There was really hardly any difference between us both this season and we ended up edging it on points. They are not that far behind us at all.

 

[WiganSpur]

It’s been the same exact story for the past 5 years pal. They integrate a whole new midfield in Fabinho, Fekir and Keita as well as a new CB - that’ll take time. And, as with Bakayoko - there’s no guarantee Fabinho will do the business in the prem.

Tbh I don't think it matters so much if Fabinho does well.

They've got Henderson, Milner, Wijnaldum etc who've all performed well this season. Fekir will be the signing for me that could really elevate them. Cracking player that can play about 4 positions, will stop them playing Ings and a bumbling Solanke as squad players.

 

[spurs mental]

It’s been the same exact story for the past 5 years pal. They integrate a whole new midfield in Fabinho, Fekir and Keita as well as a new CB - that’ll take time. And, as with Bakayoko - there’s no guarantee Fabinho will do the business in the prem.

I'd add to this and my post above as well, they have yet to show they can win without Salah in the team.

Went off v WBA, conceded 2 late goals
Went off v Roma, pissed away a 5 goal lead and were lucky to not have to play extra time in the second leg
Final v Madrid, he went off and Liverpool pissed the bed.
Everton, fair enough they rotated but they still couldn't win without him. Just a handful of samples.

We've shown we cope far better without our importsnt players like Kane, Dele, Jan to name but a few.

 

[spurs mental]

They're improving every season. Klopp looked clueless when he first came, but he's slowly but surely cutting the silliness and comical defending out. I thought Van Dijk would prove to be a waste of money but he's actually done OK for them. The glaring weakness is obviously goalkeeper, but surely they're going to address that.

There was really hardly any difference between us both this season and we ended up edging it on points. They are not that far behind us at all.

I don't dispute that they aren't far behind us.

I just don't understand the panic around here when a rival signs a player who MIGHT be good. We've been ahead of them for a decade now. And the point still stands, if they can't learn to manage a game like we have learned, or learn to play without Salah or another big player, then we will still finish ahead of them

 

[Spurrific]

I'd add to this and my post above as well, they have yet to show they can win without Salah in the team.

Went off v WBA, conceded 2 late goals
Went off v Roma, pissed away a 5 goal lead and were lucky to not have to play extra time in the second leg
Final v Madrid, he went off and Liverpool pissed the bed.
Everton, fair enough they rotated but they still couldn't win without him. Just a handful of samples.

We've shown we cope far better without our importsnt players like Kane, Dele, Jan to name but a few.

Plus now everybody knows how to take Salah out of games - arm bar, easy.

 

[WiganSpur]

I don't dispute that they aren't far behind us.

I just don't understand the panic around here when a rival signs a player who MIGHT be good. We've been ahead of them for a decade now. And the point still stands, if they can't learn to manage a game like we have learned then we will still finish ahead of them

Let's be honest if he was signing for us most people on here would be creaming themselves. Just because he's going to Liverpool suddenly he's going to struggle to adapt and flop.

All this stuff about us being ahead of them for a decade is bollocks, that means virtually nothing. That won't dictate what happens next season.

What will dictate it is not if Fabinho/Keita perform well, but what GK and CB they sign and how they fit in. If they get those two positions right I think they're looking really strong.

 

[WiganSpur]

I'd add to this and my post above as well, they have yet to show they can win without Salah in the team.

Went off v WBA, conceded 2 late goals
Went off v Roma, pissed away a 5 goal lead and were lucky to not have to play extra time in the second leg
Final v Madrid, he went off and Liverpool pissed the bed.
Everton, fair enough they rotated but they still couldn't win without him. Just a handful of samples.

We've shown we cope far better without our importsnt players like Kane, Dele, Jan to name but a few.

This is why they're signing Fekir though. It's another weakness that they will probably fix.

 

[spurs mental]

Let's be honest if he was signing for us most people on here would be creaming themselves. Just because he's going to Liverpool suddenly he's going to struggle to adapt and flop.

All this stuff about us being ahead of them for a decade is bollocks, that means virtually nothing. That won't dictate what happens next season.

What will dictate it is not if Fabinho/Keita perform well, but what GK and CB they sign and how they fit in. If they get those two positions right I think they're looking really strong.

You're not understanding this.

Klopp doesn't care about defence. He might sign a defender and a keeper but it doesn't matter a damn because they way Liverpool play is attack attack attack. They do not know how to manage a game. Pure and simple. Unless Klopp changes, which he won't, they will continue to shit their pants when they have to defend.

Have people forgotten that they were 4-1 up v City with 4 minutes to go and were, in the end lucky to draw? Their inability to manage a game will continue to be their downfall.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

You're not understanding this.

Klopp doesn't care about defence. He might sign a defender and a keeper but it doesn't matter a damn because they way Liverpool play is attack attack attack. They do not know how to manage a game. Pure and simple. Unless Klopp changes, which he won't, they will continue to shit their pants when they have to defend.

Have people forgotten that they were 4-1 up v City with 4 minutes to go and were, in the end lucky to draw? Their inability to manage a game will continue to be their downfall.

They only conceded two more than us all season. They've got a very set defence all of a sudden and a proper talent in VVD. This myth that Liverpool can't defend is half a season old.

 

[WiganSpur]

You're not understanding this.

Klopp doesn't care about defence. He might sign a defender and a keeper but it doesn't matter a damn because they way Liverpool play is attack attack attack. They do not know how to manage a game. Pure and simple. Unless Klopp changes, which he won't, they will continue to shit their pants when they have to defend.

Have people forgotten that they were 4-1 up v City with 4 minutes to go and were, in the end lucky to draw? Their inability to manage a game will continue to be their downfall.

And Poch's in game management is perfect too.

The second half of this season has seen an improvement defensively from them. Klopp now has Robertson, VVD and TAA as mainstays, and they're going to build up a good understanding.

 

[spurs mental]

They only conceded two more than us all season. They've got a very set defence all of a sudden and a proper talent in VVD. This myth that Liverpool can't defend is half a season old.

Our defence was all over the shop compared to the last two seasons though, plus Lloris was out of form towards the end of the season. We also conceded 4 goals twice in the last 5 or 6 games. We went 2 seasons without conceding more than 2 goals in a game. So the 2 goals more conceded is a bit of a false stat.

 

[spursfan77]

Every season ...

It’s like they never learn.

Let’s wait and see what we do in the window before shitting the bed shall we.

 

[Oh Teddy Teddy]

Our defence was all over the shop compared to the last two seasons though, plus Lloris was out of form towards the end of the season. We also conceded 4 goals twice in the last 5 or 6 games. We went 2 seasons without conceding more than 2 goals in a game. So the 2 goals more conceded is a bit of a false stat.

Sure. If you want it to be.

 

[spurs mental]

And Poch's in game management is perfect too.

The second half of this season has seen an improvement defensively from them. Klopp now has Robertson, VVD and TAA as mainstays, and they're going to build up a good understanding.

Never said Poch was perfect. But our players have shown they know how to manage a game when they are ahead and see the game out.

Look at the game v Madrid at Wembley. 3-1 up and Madrid pushing for more. We kept the ball at one stage for about 3 minutes without them having a touch. That's what I'm talking about.

 

[spurs mental]

Sure. If you want it to be.

Look, you know what I mean. Our defence is about 10 times better than Liverpool's. If you think it's not skewed by the fact we conceded 4 v Leicester in the final game and 3 v City with 5 games to go or whatever it was then I don't know what to say to you.

 

[Cornpattbuck]

Cor, chirpy bunch in here tonight...