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SwedishSpurs

Heja Tottenham friskt humör!
Nov 27, 2016
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Remember Pau Lopez? He has signed for Roma now. That must be one of the weirdest transfers we’ve done in the last years. Did he even play a game for us?
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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Has anybody seen how many supposed wonder kids are leaving West Brom to go to the likes of Man City/Barca/Madrid, I think i've seen 3 in the media

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-seal-4m-deal-16-year-old-morgan-rogers-west/

Manchester City have signed West Bromwich Albion’s 16-year-old Morgan Rogers in a deal worth around £4m and overseen at the highest levels by director of football Txiki Begiristain.

Louie Barry, also 16, has rejected a scholarship at West Brom to take a similar deal with a professional contract attached at Barcelona. He was the subject of competition with Paris Saint Germain interested. Clubs outside England are able to acquire scholar age players for relatively small Fifa compensation fees.

Poor West Brom, they were about to have their own worldy group of youth like Barca in the 2000's and united in the 90's and it's been snatched away:LOL:

For me it's not funny. Just wrong. Hope west brom get compensated.
 

King of Otters

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Jun 11, 2012
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Poor West Brom, they were about to have their own worldy group of youth like Barca in the 2000's and united in the 90's and it's been snatched away:LOL:

For compensation that amounts to literal pocket change for the likes of City and Barca.

It’s not right. This kind of thing must make you wonder why you bother as a fan of a non-elite club. If you can’t even hold on to a good homegrown player until he even makes a first team appearance, then what really is the point?
 

rossdapep

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Aug 25, 2011
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Has anybody seen how many supposed wonder kids are leaving West Brom to go to the likes of Man City/Barca/Madrid, I think i've seen 3 in the media

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-seal-4m-deal-16-year-old-morgan-rogers-west/

Manchester City have signed West Bromwich Albion’s 16-year-old Morgan Rogers in a deal worth around £4m and overseen at the highest levels by director of football Txiki Begiristain.

Louie Barry, also 16, has rejected a scholarship at West Brom to take a similar deal with a professional contract attached at Barcelona. He was the subject of competition with Paris Saint Germain interested. Clubs outside England are able to acquire scholar age players for relatively small Fifa compensation fees.

Poor West Brom, they were about to have their own worldy group of youth like Barca in the 2000's and united in the 90's and it's been snatched away:LOL:
Morgan Rogers? Louie Barry?

Are you sure they're not 80 year olds and WBA have pulled the wool over their eyes?
 

-Afri-Coy-

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Jun 26, 2012
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Ray Ray

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Not sure quite what a 'tug of love' amounts to. :))


The same all wanks do, you've made yourself happy for 30 seconds and splurged your baby batter all yourself, but at the end of the day you where still watching something that's never gonna happen in real life and you have to awkwardly wipe up the mess with an old sock!

Which sums up Arsenals transfer window nicely I feel.
 

stevenurse

Palacios' neck fat
May 14, 2007
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Whilst I get some of the outrage, why be able to stop a young kid achieving a dream? I don't know how much they've made from it but how much realistically can you demand for a kid that is still at school?

He hadn't signed a pro contract so I don't see what the outrage is about. Sucks for West Brom but that's the way of the football foodchain.

Good luck to the lad. The chance to develop at a place like Barcelona is the best possible thing for him
 

Spurrific

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Jun 2, 2011
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Whilst I get some of the outrage, why be able to stop a young kid achieving a dream? I don't know how much they've made from it but how much realistically can you demand for a kid that is still at school?

He hadn't signed a pro contract so I don't see what the outrage is about. Sucks for West Brom but that's the way of the football foodchain.

Good luck to the lad. The chance to develop at a place like Barcelona is the best possible thing for him

Point me towards this outrage, pls?
 

Dougal

Staff
Jun 4, 2004
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Has anybody seen how many supposed wonder kids are leaving West Brom to go to the likes of Man City/Barca/Madrid, I think i've seen 3 in the media

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/footbal...-seal-4m-deal-16-year-old-morgan-rogers-west/

Manchester City have signed West Bromwich Albion’s 16-year-old Morgan Rogers in a deal worth around £4m and overseen at the highest levels by director of football Txiki Begiristain.

Louie Barry, also 16, has rejected a scholarship at West Brom to take a similar deal with a professional contract attached at Barcelona. He was the subject of competition with Paris Saint Germain interested. Clubs outside England are able to acquire scholar age players for relatively small Fifa compensation fees.

Poor West Brom, they were about to have their own worldy group of youth like Barca in the 2000's and united in the 90's and it's been snatched away:LOL:

Point me towards this outrage, pls?

That Louie Barry is on my list too.

Grealish.
Rice.
Barry...

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wrd

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Aug 22, 2014
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I'm not outraged but I do feel sorry for West Brom, I'd like to see the law changed on the financials involving players between 16-18 because at the moment the compensation is pocket change for these clubs who can hoover up this talent, whilst at the same time you don't want to stop a kid from achieving his dream.

I'd like to see the law change because otherwise smaller clubs will not bother developing players. My personal preference would be that for 16-18 players, if a club is only due compensation then they should also get 50% (maybe I can be talked down to 25%) of the profit from the players first sale but clubs can negotiate a higher compensation fee in order to waive the sell on clause.

It's steep but it'd circulate the money in the game a little better.
 

'O Zio

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Dec 27, 2014
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I'm not outraged but I do feel sorry for West Brom, I'd like to see the law changed on the financials involving players between 16-18 because at the moment the compensation is pocket change for these clubs who can hoover up this talent, whilst at the same time you don't want to stop a kid from achieving his dream.

I'd like to see the law change because otherwise smaller clubs will not bother developing players. My personal preference would be that for 16-18 players, if a club is only due compensation then they should also get 50% (maybe I can be talked down to 25%) of the profit from the players first sale but clubs can negotiate a higher compensation fee in order to waive the sell on clause.

It's steep but it'd circulate the money in the game a little better.

Agree. I think the "poaching" of U18 players by bigger clubs is something that really needs clamping down on, not just because it's quite unfair on the smaller clubs, but also I don't think it's a good situation to put a child in, and let's have it right, until you're 18 you are a child. They shouldn't be getting their heads turned and having all sorts of agents and third parties whispering in their ear all the time. They need to be left to develop both on the pitch and in terms of becoming an adult, and the best place for them to do that is at home, not half way across the country. One way to do it, as you say, would be to introduce a massive sell-on fee that the buying club has to play to the club that developed them e.g. if Barca sign a U18 player from West Brom they should have to pay 25% of the profit of his next sale to WBA. That way at least I think it would encourage clubs to leave the kids where they are at least until they're adults, then I think it should be up to the player. But while they're still minors in the eyes of the law I think we should discourage this kind of "poaching" behaviour from bigger clubs.
 

Lilbaz

Just call me Baz
Apr 1, 2005
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Agree. I think the "poaching" of U18 players by bigger clubs is something that really needs clamping down on, not just because it's quite unfair on the smaller clubs, but also I don't think it's a good situation to put a child in, and let's have it right, until you're 18 you are a child. They shouldn't be getting their heads turned and having all sorts of agents and third parties whispering in their ear all the time. They need to be left to develop both on the pitch and in terms of becoming an adult, and the best place for them to do that is at home, not half way across the country. One way to do it, as you say, would be to introduce a massive sell-on fee that the buying club has to play to the club that developed them e.g. if Barca sign a U18 player from West Brom they should have to pay 25% of the profit of his next sale to WBA. That way at least I think it would encourage clubs to leave the kids where they are at least until they're adults, then I think it should be up to the player. But while they're still minors in the eyes of the law I think we should discourage this kind of "poaching" behaviour from bigger clubs.

The fa brought in rules that agents cannot get a fee for movement of players u18. Unfortunately this doesn't hold for players going abroad. Hence a lot of youngsters being touted across europe.
 

wizgell

Park Laner
Aug 11, 2004
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Agree. I think the "poaching" of U18 players by bigger clubs is something that really needs clamping down on, not just because it's quite unfair on the smaller clubs, but also I don't think it's a good situation to put a child in, and let's have it right, until you're 18 you are a child. They shouldn't be getting their heads turned and having all sorts of agents and third parties whispering in their ear all the time. They need to be left to develop both on the pitch and in terms of becoming an adult, and the best place for them to do that is at home, not half way across the country. One way to do it, as you say, would be to introduce a massive sell-on fee that the buying club has to play to the club that developed them e.g. if Barca sign a U18 player from West Brom they should have to pay 25% of the profit of his next sale to WBA. That way at least I think it would encourage clubs to leave the kids where they are at least until they're adults, then I think it should be up to the player. But while they're still minors in the eyes of the law I think we should discourage this kind of "poaching" behaviour from bigger clubs.


Another, very bold way to do it would be to completely do away with allowing players U18 to be contracted to a club. It's mad to think that at a key time in their development they can still be treated like commodities. If a club has a promising youngster and get offered big bucks for him they'll look to ship him out whether he's ready or not. There's no surprise that very few of these deals work out when they happen.

Bostock, Wickham, Jennings, Harper etc all come to mind.
 

'O Zio

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Dec 27, 2014
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Another, very bold way to do it would be to completely do away with allowing players U18 to be contracted to a club. It's mad to think that at a key time in their development they can still be treated like commodities. If a club has a promising youngster and get offered big bucks for him they'll look to ship him out whether he's ready or not. There's no surprise that very few of these deals work out when they happen.

Bostock, Wickham, Jennings, Harper etc all come to mind.

Trouble is wouldn't that just open them up to being poached even more? If they're not under any kind of contract they could theoretically just stop turning up one day and nexxt thing you know they've popped up at Chelsea no questions asked.
 
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