Get a grip people!

[DEFchenkOE]

Don't Ajax have a replacement yet?

And to response to Muffwah, was it Jol or Comolli that spent 40Mil? This is my worry, did Jol ask for a £16mil striker in DB? Then to leave him on the bench for most games? Did he ask for Zokora? Kaboul? BAE?

I'm not sure our DOF structure is working. If so why are we sooo top-heavy upfront and lightweight in all other areas?

Yes Jol has made tactical errors and we haven't played so well, but Comolli should be partly to blame imo and he should go if a manager we want isn't happy to work with him.

 

[The Apprentice]

Spot on Lib.

Peoples judgement is being impaired by Martin's personality. For one reason or another he has come up short this season, and it hasn't looked like changing. Alarm bell shave been ringing for a few weeks with the perfomrances and attitudes of the players. No point burying your head in the sand while our season is pissed up the wall.

 

[muffwah]

Don't Ajax have a replacement yet?

And to response to Muffwah, was it Jol or Comolli that spent 40Mil? This is my worry, did Jol ask for a £16mil striker in DB? Then to leave him on the bench for most games? Did he ask for Zokora? Kaboul? BAE?

I'm not sure our DOF structure is working. If so why are we sooo top-heavy upfront and lightweight in all other areas?

Yes Jol has made tactical errors and we haven't played so well, but Comolli should be partly to blame imo and he should go if a manager we want isn't happy to work with him.

Depends what you are choosing to believe but I think they both spent that money, it wouldn't be good for a DoF's career prospects to force players on the manager really would it? As when he never picked them and they became considered a flop it reflects badly.

I think perhaps Comolli plays a big hand in identifying players but I would put my money that Jol approved every signing.

I think if I was the manager and I felt we had enough up front but badly needed eg a CB or DM then I would have said so quite explicitly and I think Jol would have done the same.

 

[liberty]

At the end of the day it's about winning games.

 

[g_harry]

Cant believe this shit.

Martin Jol is the best mangaer spurs have had in a long long long long long time. He brought pride, sportmanship, Charisma,Winning back to white hart lane something i have never seen at the lane since i have supported this great club. Most of all the team had an attacking flair, with some classic games and great goals.


As fans we owe Martin Jol alot, do not forget this. I think alot of fans and the board will realise how special Martin was when he is gone.

 

[alamo]

He won't though, will he?

I hear Big Ron is looking for a job.

 

[JKSpurs]

What people forget is things only started to go really shit, once the board got caught with Ramos. I firmly believe that if Kemsley wasn't caught in spain we would be doing just fine, the fact that Jol knew and all the players knew meant it was just a matter of time before he was sacked. He was totally screwed over when it came to trying to do his job. if I knew my boss was getting the sack, you wouldn't find me busting my balls for him and that what you got from the players, and also if I was a boss and I knew I was due to get the sack I'd find it very hard to keep my mind on the job. I'd be thinking about all those Millions and all that free time I was going to get.

The board are totally to blame for the results this season, to say that they had to sack him him is true but they only needed to sack him because of what they had let happen. They couldn't even sack him properly they screwed that up, sacked before a european cup night, what a clever idea. Leaked to the press, what a bunch of tossers.

 

[Gilzeanking]

What people forget is things only started to go really shit, once the board got caught with Ramos. I firmly believe that if Kemsley wasn't caught in spain we would be doing just fine, the fact that Jol knew and all the players knew meant it was just a matter of time before he was sacked. He was totally screwed over when it came to trying to do his job. if I knew my boss was getting the sack, you wouldn't find me busting my balls for him and that what you got from the players, and also if I was a boss and I knew I was due to get the sack I'd find it very hard to keep my mind on the job. I'd be thinking about all those Millions and all that free time I was going to get.

The board are totally to blame for the results this season, to say that they had to sack him him is true but they only needed to sack him because of what they had let happen. They couldn't even sack him properly they screwed that up, sacked before a european cup night, what a clever idea. Leaked to the press, what a bunch of tossers.

Presumably you have only been supporting Spurs since September . The team were shit before Ramosgate..

...If you're just going to make up stuff go into Chat or something .

Ahem ......Wot Liberty said

 

[sloth]

Martin Jol is a good man, a strong, charismatic guy. He can walk away with his head held high and I'm full of admiration for the guy. He's not a great coach however or a great manager. He's a good one, but not great. I won't go into all the reasons he wasn't up to it, they're all logged on here somewhere anyway and even his biggest supporters will probably acknowledge them, suffice to say that if you've produced a side which doesn't win when it's playing well and always loses when it's not then something's not right. I'm glad he's gone and I wish him luck.

 

[sloth]

What people forget is things only started to go really shit, once the board got caught with Ramos. I firmly believe that if Kemsley wasn't caught in spain we would be doing just fine, the fact that Jol knew and all the players knew meant it was just a matter of time before he was sacked. He was totally screwed over when it came to trying to do his job. if I knew my boss was getting the sack, you wouldn't find me busting my balls for him and that what you got from the players, and also if I was a boss and I knew I was due to get the sack I'd find it very hard to keep my mind on the job. I'd be thinking about all those Millions and all that free time I was going to get.

The board are totally to blame for the results this season, to say that they had to sack him him is true but they only needed to sack him because of what they had let happen. They couldn't even sack him properly they screwed that up, sacked before a european cup night, what a clever idea. Leaked to the press, what a bunch of tossers.

LOL, that's why you're not a premiership manager. It cracks me up how many people think the art to being a top class coach exists somehow in a vacuum. It doesn't, the art to being a top class coach is making the right decisions even when the pressure's on. Jol didn't and now he's gone. Simple as.

 

[yiddotilidie]

Martin Jol is a good man, a strong, charismatic guy. He can walk away with his head held high and I'm full of admiration for the guy. He's not a great coach however or a great manager. He's a good one, but not great. I won't go into all the reasons he wasn't up to it, they're all logged on here somewhere anyway and even his biggest supporters will probably acknowledge them, suffice to say that if you've produced a side which doesn't win when it's playing well and always loses when it's not then something's not right. I'm glad he's gone and I wish him luck.

Thats the sad thing, he never got to do that. He was snuck out the back door flanked by 8 security guards.

 

[RogerTCB]

I agree with most above. It's a sad thing for Jol the man, who I like imensely. He has indeed presided over the greatest Suprs era for some time and should be given his share of the credit.
It was time he went and he was not going to take us any further.

Let's hope to [insert deity of choice] that they pick someone better to take the reigns.

 

[Stoof]

the board have been very good so far

I'd really hate to be employed where you are if you think they've managed this situation well.

they have supported their managers

:lol:

I don't think we can complain that they sack a manager for having the worst start imaginable despite spending 40m on players to build on a 5th place finish.

I will complain as much as I fucking want. If we do that to our most successful manager in the last 20 years, then what are we going to do to someone worse?

We win two games and we're in mid-table and everything goes away.

Oh, that would have been the case if the Board hadn't gone behind his back and completely and utterly destroyed the working relationship between manager and Board.

I support the club, I happen to trust the board and I could not give one shit about the staff that come and go. Tottenham til I die.

Brilliant. :|

 

[Gin+Tonic14]

The board were more for the reason we got 5th two seasons running. The board are the reason for making the money available for the management staff to spend. The board are the reason why we run a good ship @ Spurs and have made record profits over the last few years.

Things started shit for us this season. Big time shit. The football we've been playing is diabolical. Okay the board maybe made a mistake. The journo's picked up on it and took us to the cleaners. Levy tried to smooth it out with Jol but it's not worked. Jol's heart hasn't looked in it and he lost the dressing room.

I love Jol. Such a nice man & comes across very well! One of the few managers the general football fan would enjoy listening to and watching.

However, onwards and upwards. Things HAD to change and a clear out of Hughton & Jol was NEEDED. We couldn't continue our season like this.

Get behind the board and our Club.

Things WILL start to improve!

COYS!!!!! :beer:

great post, agre 100% Should of removed him in the summer though

 

[teddyboy]

The board were more for the reason we got 5th two seasons running. The board are the reason for making the money available for the management staff to spend. The board are the reason why we run a good ship @ Spurs and have made record profits over the last few years.

Things started shit for us this season. Big time shit. The football we've been playing is diabolical. Okay the board maybe made a mistake. The journo's picked up on it and took us to the cleaners. Levy tried to smooth it out with Jol but it's not worked. Jol's heart hasn't looked in it and he lost the dressing room.

I love Jol. Such a nice man & comes across very well! One of the few managers the general football fan would enjoy listening to and watching.

However, onwards and upwards. Things HAD to change and a clear out of Hughton & Jol was NEEDED. We couldn't continue our season like this.

Get behind the board and our Club.

Things WILL start to improve!

COYS!!!!! :beer:

Wrong..!!

Don’t make me laugh liberty that bunch of clowns aren’t responsible for jack shit, it us fans that buy the shirts and tickets that make the fucking difference..

I do stand corrected, those arseholes are responsible for one thing, making us look like second rate european circus…

 

[tototoner]

We've been a shambles since the board were caught with their pants down in Spain - Jol was undermined from that moment, he knew it, the board knew it, the team knew it, the fans knew it and the press, especially, knew it.

I can't help but think that we're back to square one again, or possibly worse - the Senior management team are still in place - so far as I'm concerned, they're to blame for our league position and general poor form. Good to hear the crowd behind Jol last night.

Anyone who thinks under Ramos we will be successful is living in cloud cuckoo land

 

[Coneilly]

yer i agree...

 

[Adam456]

Jol is great at coaching players and at getting the team to play good passing football and he's a great fella. I so wanted us to be successful with him and I acknowledge that the Kemsley-Ramos affair really didn't help. However, if everybody is honest I think there are three main areas that were wrong:

1. Failure to defend without King playing (whole system shouldn't break down over 1 player)

2. Player selection - poor use of subs (taking off our best players and replacing with dross) and constantly picking slow midfielders who just aren't up to it (Malb and Tainio)

3. Failure to tactically out-think the other manager in the really big games

 

[batigol]

We've been a shambles since the board were caught with their pants down in Spain - Jol was undermined from that moment, he knew it, the board knew it, the team knew it, the fans knew it and the press, especially, knew it.

I can't help but think that we're back to square one again, or possibly worse - the Senior management team are still in place - so far as I'm concerned, they're to blame for our league position and general poor form. Good to hear the crowd behind Jol last night.

Anyone who thinks under Ramos we will be successful is living in cloud cuckoo land

Right, we've been in a shambles since the board screwed up. Jol was great but I'm first and foremost a Spurs fan. Seems like some people love Jol more than Spurs so maybe they can follow him wherever he goes. They may have a better board at his new club so go cheer them on yeah?! And get this straight, Jol is not Spurs and he is not the reason I support Spurs so him leaving has got nothing to do with me continuing to support the team and wanting things to get better with a new man in charge. Bet Liberty feels this way too.

The board was wrong but its about time we got behind the club and cheer them on as from what I can see, our beloved Spurs need all the help it can get. Ramos, and we don't even know if he is coming in ffs, cannot be judged successful or unsuccessful until he takes over. If you are really a Spurs fan then you would want him to be successful, won't you. I'm a Spurs fan and if he comes, then I rather be in cuckoo land thinking he can turn things around at Spurs than sitting at home pining for Jol who has left for better or worse.

 

[worcestersauce]

We've been a shambles since the board were caught with their pants down in Spain - Jol was undermined from that moment, he knew it, the board knew it, the team knew it, the fans knew it and the press, especially, knew it.

I can't help but think that we're back to square one again, or possibly worse - the Senior management team are still in place - so far as I'm concerned, they're to blame for our league position and general poor form. Good to hear the crowd behind Jol last night.

Anyone who thinks under Ramos we will be successful is living in cloud cuckoo land

Not true I'm afraid, we los to a poor Sunderland side and we were humiliated by Everton at White