Player Watch Player Watch: Giovani Lo Celso

[synththfc]

With no more incomings or outgoings, this window's success relies on us signing GLC for me. Get him in, and as things stands it's a terrific window IMO. Fail to do so and we're back to square one.

 

[walworthyid]

With no more incomings or outgoings, this window's success relies on us signing GLC for me. Get him in, and as things stands it's a terrific window IMO. Fail to do so and we're back to square one.

We need to replace the full backs imo. We were weak there before, if rose leaves we will be very weak. Having said that, Poch may change the way we play and a solid type of player like Davies will be fine. As it stands though, we rely on width and when Davies plays we struggle to create and use over laps effectively.

 

[Finchyid]

We need to replace the full backs imo. We were weak there before, if rose leaves we will be very weak. Having said that, Poch may change the way we play and a solid type of player like Davies will be fine. As it stands though, we rely on width and when Davies plays we struggle to create and use over laps effectively.

Dont agree we lost one game when aurier played, davies is more than capable, kwp and foyth will step up, we also have dier toby and jan should it be desperate... the killer is getting back on thread getting Lo C

 

[mil1lion]

I still think Lo Celso is the alternative to Barkley and Grealish of the past 2 summers and nothing to do with Eriksen who wasn't exactly for sale when we pursued them

 

[Finchyid]

I still think Lo Celso is the alternative to Barkley and Grealish of the past 2 summers and nothing to do with Eriksen who wasn't exactly for sale when we pursued them

You are comparing an argentine international worth £60m apparently with ross barkley and jack grealish??

 

[mil1lion]

You are comparing an argentine international worth £60m apparently with ross barkley and jack grealish??

Yes because they play a similar role so we've clearly identified we need that type of player. It's just funny that missing out on them lead to us going for much better quality further down the line (chasing De Jong and now Lo Celso). It made sense to go for them at the time given their contract situations though. Now we're going for a whole new level of quality for the same position.

 

[Charlie.W]

I hope this doesn’t throw a spanner in the works

 

[Ben1]

You are comparing an argentine international worth £60m apparently with ross barkley and jack grealish??

Not wrong though, we were chasing an additional midfielder for ages and nothing has really changed in that area. Ndombele/Dembele swap and Dier/Wanyama got worse, whilst Sissoko/Winks got better.

Its makes sense we want one more, we're just a bigger club shopping in a better market now.

 

[glospur]

I believe the plan would fall flat however has he would have had 4 seperate registrations in one season (PSG/Betis/RM/Spurs) which is not allowed by FIFA rules.

I believe a player can only be registered for 3 clubs a season and officially play for two.

So a transfer from PSG to Betis to Madrid to Tottenham simply can't happen.

The scenario suggested is probably bullshit, but I'm almost certain this wouldn't be a problem.

For one, the registration is for the 2019/20 season, so why would PSG register him when they've already sold him? Two, from what I understand, teams don't need to submit their respective squad lists until closer to the season, and just because you buy a player, you're under no obligation to register him for a competition. Real Madrid could feasibly buy him, not register him, and then sell him on.

 

[bbunc]

I sure hope we’ve got a backup plan ready.

Starting to feel like one of those situations where we believe with certainty that the selling team will eventually cave 25-30M off their selling price when there’s no evidence that they really need to or are likely to and we’re left empty handed by the time we finally realize it.

Hope the scouts are turning up some other options and just having success keeping it very quiet.

 

[Ben1]

The scenario suggested is probably bullshit, but I'm almost certain this wouldn't be a problem.

For one, the registration is for the 2019/20 season, so why would PSG register him when they've already sold him? Two, from what I understand, teams don't need to submit their respective squad lists until closer to the season, and just because you buy a player, you're under no obligation to register him for a competition. Real Madrid could feasibly buy him, not register him, and then sell him on.

I don't think 'registering' means including someone in your squad. Registering in this sense means having them under contract. I'm pretty certain he would legally be a PSG player upon the window opening, as deals cannot be completed outside of this time and it was an option to buy. Similarly, in order for Madrid to buy him and then sell him, his contract rights (registration) would have to be legally bound, therefore meaning he would be a Madrid player, even if for a short time.

I am not sure of the above (in particular the PSG bit), but im pretty confident this couldn't happen.

 

[glospur]

I don't think 'registering' means including someone in your squad. Registering in this sense means having them under contract. I'm pretty certain he would legally be a PSG player upon the window opening, as deals cannot be completed outside of this time and it was an option to buy. Similarly, in order for Madrid to buy him and then sell him, his contract rights (registration) would have to be legally bound, therefore meaning he would be a Madrid player, even if for a short time.

I am not sure of the above (in particular the PSG bit), but im pretty confident this couldn't happen.

Ok. I'm taking my info from an article I vaguely remember reading a while ago on this very issue. I'll see if I can find it, or somethign similar.

Haha I'm also kinda using FM as a backup reference because they usually get things like this right in their games, but I'll try to find that article which is a much better source, obviously.

 

[14/04/91]

You are comparing an argentine international worth £60m apparently with ross barkley and jack grealish??

But what was he worth when we originally looked at Grealish & Barkley? They weren’t possible/desirable for whatever reason at that time(s), but he is now?

 

[Univarn]

I hope this doesn’t throw a spanner in the works

Having read the article it doesn't say anything about him putting the brakes on a move. Just that he is not in a rush and willing to wait to see if another big club comes in while Betis and Lyon negotiate a deal.

 

[Fidget]

I hope this doesn’t throw a spanner in the works

We’re buying Fekir, cos they’re all feking us about!!!!!
Keep Erikson and buy the fek out of Fekir and cut out RM and Betis. We’ve pulled it off. ?

 

[Gloryhunter]

Btw, surely Levy stayed in London right? Or does he travel with the team?

He is in Singapore with the team. There are photos taken with fans in Singapore.

 

[glospur]

I don't think 'registering' means including someone in your squad. Registering in this sense means having them under contract. I'm pretty certain he would legally be a PSG player upon the window opening, as deals cannot be completed outside of this time and it was an option to buy. Similarly, in order for Madrid to buy him and then sell him, his contract rights (registration) would have to be legally bound, therefore meaning he would be a Madrid player, even if for a short time.

I am not sure of the above (in particular the PSG bit), but im pretty confident this couldn't happen.

From 2015:

Players can be registered for 3 clubs in a season, but can only play 'official' matches for two. Official matches can include u/21 or u/23 games. I doubt friendlies would count either. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/14/hatem-ben-arfa-limbo-clearance-fifa-nice-newcastle

And from what I can understand from a FIFA document, he wouldn't have to register at PSG. His loan means he's transferred his registration to Betis for a temporary period of time, and with an option, if Betis execute the transfer before that period of time is up, his registration would never return to PSG for the 19/20 season. https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/af...e_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf

 

[SpartanSpur]

From 2015:

Players can be registered for 3 clubs in a season, but can only play 'official' matches for two. Official matches can include u/21 or u/23 games. I doubt friendlies would count either. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/14/hatem-ben-arfa-limbo-clearance-fifa-nice-newcastle

And from what I can understand from a FIFA document, he wouldn't have to register at PSG. His loan means he's transferred his registration to Betis for a temporary period of time, and with an option, if Betis execute the transfer before that period of time is up, his registration would never return to PSG for the 19/20 season. https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/af...e_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf

So it is likely to be possible then (and let's be honest, FIFA/UEFA would probably allow it for them anyway), wouldn't put it past RM coming up with something crazy like that then!

 

[Fidget]

What the hell is all this fuckery? Have I fallen down the bloody rabbit hole?

 

[Luka Van der Bale]

From 2015:

Players can be registered for 3 clubs in a season, but can only play 'official' matches for two. Official matches can include u/21 or u/23 games. I doubt friendlies would count either. https://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/jan/14/hatem-ben-arfa-limbo-clearance-fifa-nice-newcastle

And from what I can understand from a FIFA document, he wouldn't have to register at PSG. His loan means he's transferred his registration to Betis for a temporary period of time, and with an option, if Betis execute the transfer before that period of time is up, his registration would never return to PSG for the 19/20 season. https://www.fifa.com/mm/document/af...e_status_and_transfer_of_players_en_33410.pdf

This is exactly why Chelsea were able to sign Kovacic too. His registration never returned to Real, so Chelsea weren’t ‘registering’ a new player.