Good Week/Bad Week

[Krafty]

Yes but those are assumptions. We found out last summer Modric wanted out. There was interest from big clubs for Bale, he only ever said he was staying at Spurs.

People attacking his ego are just assuming he has one now, which is completely baseless. Nothing he has said or done suggests he has developed a massive ego.

While I don't think he's the next Berbasulk, Bale definitely has more of an ego (which isn't necessarily a bad thing given he was quite timid to start of with) you can see in his play that he is more selfish. Again, that could be more belief in his ability but he's had a couple of games where he has taken upwards of 5 or more shots from 30yards+ looking for a wonder goal rather than look for team mates.

His comments in the press have changed, and while again it may not be Bale himself who is instigating the change when he came out and said he thought he could play like Cristiano Ronaldo I did think a good performance at Norwich does not make you the world's best player.

It's a number of straws but it will soon break the camels back. If you look at the reaction after the Walker goal I don't think Bale gets involved in the celebrations, and as I said he went down the tunnel without his customary wave at the crowd.

 

[Krafty]

Disagree entirely about Rose, thought he was poor

I thought he did well. Not perfect, but not bad and he showed plenty of effort, which has been missing from the team in recent games.

Also give me a bit of slack! I can't make this a regular feature if I only pick out players who have phenomenal performances or absolute shockers!

 

[UbeAstard]

I've seen him play many times for Bristol City and I can tell you that he absolutely does not have more to his game then what he showed on Sunday. His age is irrelevant here (in any respect he isn't even that young), you can tell that his technique is lacking and his delivery is sub standard.

Dont care about Bristol City's Rose, but Spurs Rose I do. He didnt impress me against Blackburn either but I have seen him with a run a games previously where I believe he is capable. I think he is someone that needs to be judged after a run of games and not just one. If were were to judge people on one or 2 games then Modric, King, Adebayor and Bale can all go now.

 

[kungfugrip]

Everyone has been going on about Walker's 25 yard free kick - give the guy some credit - it's clearly 33 yards out. Measure it by the squares that are cut on the pitch (6 yards each on Sunday).

 

[Last train to Newbury]

Gareth Bale is/will become a Left Back. That is his best position, it's what all the tools in his box are sharpened for. He just needs more time and good direction using them. All in good time.
He will never, ever play the role he appears to be trying to play effectively. He is not Rafa, he is not David Silva.

 

[Stoof]

Yes but those are assumptions. We found out last summer Modric wanted out. There was interest from big clubs for Bale, he only ever said he was staying at Spurs.

People attacking his ego are just assuming he has one now, which is completely baseless. Nothing he has said or done suggests he has developed a massive ego.

It's not completely baseless. 1) Did you read the article suggesting he'd consider his future if we don't get Champions League? A year ago, he came out saying the opposite. 2) His play has changed on-field. That isn't Harry's doing. That's his doing. You can see he's being told to stay out on the left, and he just doesn't. The number of times Lennon had to scurry over when he realised Bale was in his position. That's not Harry's tactical switch, that's Bale wanting to get involved in the game.

That's not necessarily a bad thing - but at the same time, if it upsets the balance of our team just so he can get ball time, I'm not sure it's worth the sacrifice - as per Sunday.

 

[tcyrus]

I've seen him play many times for Bristol City and I can tell you that he absolutely does not have more to his game then what he showed on Sunday. His age is irrelevant here (in any respect he isn't even that young), you can tell that his technique is lacking and his delivery is sub standard.

Watching Bristol City ,told you a lot about Rose did it ?

I know what it tell's me about you !

 

[thfc1989]

Watching Bristol City ,told you a lot about Rose did it ?

I know what it tell's me about you !

Yes, it did. Good players go out on loan and shine in their respective teams. Like Steven Caulker did at Bristol City for example. Rose on the other hand was particularly bad, regularly losing possession and sending wayward crosses into the stands. He therefore was regularly left out of the squad. Rose was playing for them at a time when they weren't relegation battlers as well. He simply wont develop into a quality player.

 

[greaves]

I think Rose had a mixed game. Some things he did really well, but others showed how Benny really does have a great left foot on him.

Capable, yes. Like-for-like replacement for Benny? Not a chance.

Agree re: Sandro. Best game he's had all season for us. Despite the vomit!

The vomit showed he had guts.

 

[greaves]

Has he demanded a move? Or wages? Who knows.

I think he's bought into the hype surrounding him, personally. Which is a shame, because the humbleness made him more awesome.

Yes, agreed, humility could keep him grounded. (and I don't mean diving!)

 

[Gaz_Gammon]

The man was a beast. Coming in for Scott Parker, the Brazilian Warrior put in a master class performance, breaking up play, making tackles, distributing the ball and also crashing a shot off the bar

Should be an automatic first team player in my opinion. Younger, quicker and a player who moves the ball forward. He tracks back and hunts down the ball can shoot head and use skill when needed. Parker has his good points but has faded in my opinon over the last third of the season.

 

[jolsnogross]

The attacks on Bale are baseless. Players should develop a bit of arrogance and it's been insightful to hear Martinez say that about the resurgent Wigan in recent weeks. After each win against a top side, he's praised his side's arrogance. That leads to a winning mentality, something we'd like Bale to acquire.

The 'evidence' for Bale's new egomanical ways are that (a) he shoots too much, (b) doesn't celebrate other's goals and (c) says he'll assess the situation if we don't get Champions League footy. This is really flimsy stuff.

He should shoot when there's space to do so because we could usually do without the next sideways pass on top of the 15 that happened before it. Shot shyness around the edge of the box is a problem for us, not selfishness. The exception that proves that rule may be Defoe, who can shoot sometimes despite a blindingly obvious better option to pass. I've yet to see Bale shoot when someone else is in a far better shooting position.

The other two pieces of evidence are even less convincing and the idea that Bale didn't wave on the way down the tunnel is some sort of indicator of anything is a bit silly.

But, I fear a meme has begun. Just like Harry doesn't know 'tactics' and Huddlestone is too slow for Premier League footy, Bale is now a selfish egomaniac. Shame.

 

[doom]

I tend to agree with you about Bale jolsnogross. He might actually be pissed off with our lack of support of him. Did no one see him jump into the qpr crowd to retrieve the ball as time was running out? That shows complete commitment. I disapprove of the the songs that he should stay on the left. He plays for Wales on the right and has been just as effective there. He does his best to get Spurs to score that's why he shoots from far or and gets involved so much in attacking positions. He seems to be one of a few who can head the ball, the others being defenders and it's a shame he can't be on the end of his own crosses. Get behind the guy as he will become a phenominal player and we want to see him develop with Spurs not Barcelona. Never mind a bit of arrogance, if that's what's needed.

 

[kungfugrip]

Yes, it did. Good players go out on loan and shine in their respective teams. Like Steven Caulker did at Bristol City for example. Rose on the other hand was particularly bad, regularly losing possession and sending wayward crosses into the stands. He therefore was regularly left out of the squad. Rose was playing for them at a time when they weren't relegation battlers as well. He simply wont develop into a quality player.

Didn't see him at Bristol, only playing for Spurs. Sorry Danny, we need a better quality option at LB as back up to put pressure on Benny / rest him when needed.