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BoringOldFan

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About the anniversary game: Says that he was not invited to the it because of his comments about the Ramos fiasco. Press Officer called him to say the club didn't want GR to make any comments to the press. GR said when you pay my wages you can tell me what to do!

Also reckons (or says he knows) that Bent wasn't Jol's choice. Two CBs and and a midfielder were needed.

Says he still loves the club and would go back and work for free to sort out the defence!
 

worcestersauce

"I'm no optimist I'm just a prisoner of hope
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About the anniversary game: Says that he was not invited to the it because of his comments about the Ramos fiasco. Press Officer called him to say the club didn't want GR to make any comments to the press. GR said when you pay my wages you can tell me what to do!

Also reckons (or says he knows) that Bent wasn't Jol's choice. Two CBs and and a midfielder were needed.

Says he still loves the club and would go back and work for free to sort out the defence!

Wow! Graham Roberts got his fu*king beak in again, god forbid an average ex player like him should be out of the news for a while. What is it with him? he was never a great player and he's been a poxy useless manager and in all the time since he left Spurs I've never heard him say anything positive, he's a miserable sod.

Sorry about this I make it a point never to run down players current or past but this guy has realy got on my tits over the last few months, actually well before that because like I say he's always dis'd the Spurs, and nothing he said or done in the last 15 years would ever lead me to believe he loves the club. :bang:
 

BoringOldFan

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an average ex player like him should be out of the news for a while. What is it with him? he was never a great player

:rofl: Watched him a lot did you? Not a great player on the world stage, but what did you think of his performances at Wembley and in the UEFA Cup final?

If Zokora/Jenas/Huddlestone had half his drive, determination and effort they would be twice the players they are.
 

bomberH

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god forbid an average ex player like him should be out of the news for a while. What is it with him? he was never a great player

While i agree he's been a cock in the media over the last couple of years, how you can call him an average ex player is beyond me. If we had Roberts in his prime playing for us now, Jol would still be in a job. Roberts was one of our best defenders over the last 40 years.

Also, he was right about the whole Ramos thing, the board did fuck up royally. But that doesn't excuse the fact he's been getting digs in here and there for a while now. No need for it really, but i'd still rather listen to Roberts talk about Spurs than Tim fucking Sherwood.
 

worcestersauce

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Yes of course I watched him I saw him play loads and he was an average player who wasn't good enough for our team now, he had a big heart and he was hard and as you say he had drive I'll certainly give him that but I listen to talksport and every time they want someone to put the boot in to Tottenham they get Graham Roberts and he duly obliges so he has pised me off big time and that is why I have broken my rule about saying anything detrimental about Spurs players.
 

Legend10

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Graham Roberts great Spurs player and should alwyas be welcome at the club.

Graham Roberts bitter ex player and perfect Talk Sport guest to diss the club and stir up emotions.
 

bomberH

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Yes of course I watched him I saw him play loads and he was an average player who wasn't good enough for our team now, he had a big heart and he was hard and as you say he had drive I'll certainly give him that but I listen to talksport and every time they want someone to put the boot in to Tottenham they get Graham Roberts and he duly obliges so he has pised me off big time and that is why I have broken my rule about saying anything detrimental about Spurs players.

Don't let you heart rule your head. Roberts has been a cock on the radio and SSN but if you've genuinely seen him play for us loads of times and genuinely believe he's an average player, then you're mental. Honestly, i can't believe you really feel that, you must be letting your views about him now cloud your judgement over what a great player for us he was. If i said i didn't rate Ledley King (forgetting his injuries), people would think i was a plonker and would not take on board any future views i had about Spurs players.

Go and buy some Spurs DVD's showing 80's matches and then tell me Roberts was average. I'm pretty sure he has a large penis too.
 

arthurgrimsdell

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:rofl: Watched him a lot did you? Not a great player on the world stage, but what did you think of his performances at Wembley and in the UEFA Cup final?

If Zokora/Jenas/Huddlestone had half his drive, determination and effort they would be twice the players they are.

I did watch him a lot.
He was a better than average player, but never by the wildest stretch of one's imagination could he be described as great. His performances at Wembley and the UEFA Cup Final were typical of his early-to mid-career at Tottenham, dynamic, whole-hearted, quite talented, but not imbued with the greatest class. His goal at WHL in the UEFA Final helped us win the Cup, but to be honest, we were outplayed for long periods in that game and could easily have lost, and if I recall, the goal came about from the play of the recently introduced Ardiles.
His career at WHL after that game went downhill in my opinion because over the next season his wholehearted dynamism degenerated into cynical dirty play, for which I can't help feeling that the extra influence of Peter Shreeves came into play, exemplified by his public comment that he didn't want Tottenham to be regarded as "fancy-dans" any longer.
Roberts was never the sharpest tool in the box, and has always had a problem with his gambling addiction. His management career has rarely gone beyond the lower leagues, so he hardly has a pedigree that makes his opinions carry more weight than the average fan.
I too am regularly irritated by the persistent negativity of his, and Sherwood's comments, but am well aware that they are regarded as "pundits" and therefore feel the need to exaggerate their views to make them more "saleable".
 

BoringOldFan

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Yes of course I watched him I saw him play loads and he was an average player who wasn't good enough for our team now, he had a big heart and he was hard and as you say he had drive I'll certainly give him that but I listen to talksport and every time they want someone to put the boot in to Tottenham they get Graham Roberts and he duly obliges so he has pised me off big time and that is why I have broken my rule about saying anything detrimental about Spurs players.

By all means have a pop at him for what he says in the media. Just don't trivialise what he did for the club as a player. You repeat that he was an average player which suggests to me you don't have sound judgment. He was a captain and winner with our club. He won two FA Cups and the UEFA Cup. That is not 'average' for Tottenham, believe me!
 

speccy_spur

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I too am regularly irritated by the persistent negativity of his, and Sherwood's comments, but am well aware that they are regarded as "pundits" and therefore feel the need to exaggerate their views to make them more "saleable".

Exactly. Have to say something notable/controversial or they will not be asked to do it again. Roberts was a good player, but the coaching has not worked out because of his 'problems', and this is a key cash source for him methinks. He cetainly would never work for 'free' as he claims.
 

Kurtzen

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Not good enough for our current team? Please, he had more commitment than the sum of the shambles we have witnessed recently. Half of the current crop wouldn't have survived a training match with him, and I can't think of a player since who has instilled a genuine fear of bodily harm in opponents.
 

DC_Boy

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Roberts was a way above average player - good enough for England as well helping us & Rangers to trophies.

You can't compare generations easily, but given some kind of like for like comparision Robbo would be our best and most important mid/defensive player if we could field him on sunday - he'd also be Captain and I tell you what I think he'd lead us to a victory.

Apart from the obvious greats like Mackay Jones and Jennings, there are few players who we need so badly from our past as a Roberts style player at present.
 

bomberH

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His career at WHL after that game went downhill in my opinion because over the next season his wholehearted dynamism degenerated into cynical dirty play, for which I can't help feeling that the extra influence of Peter Shreeves came into play, exemplified by his public comment that he didn't want Tottenham to be regarded as "fancy-dans" any longer.

And the problem with that? We were crying out for someone like that for years before Davids came along. And we need it again now. He was an old school defender, not very bright but would let people know he's about after a couple of minutes. His own tactics suited the game back then just like Chopper etc before him.

You think players used to relish playing against Roy Keane? I very much doubt it. They knew they were in for a fight and they'd probably get a few knocks here and there. If Roberts was still playing for us now, how many opposing players would fancy a 50-50 with him. Not many i'd guess. You do need to mix it up, quality and fight. That's why Man U did so well in the 90's. Keane, Cantona, Giggs, Scholes, Schmeicel etc. Roberts game may have been cynical to a certain extent, but not that cynical - and he could play a bit of football too.
 

Real_madyidd

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Yes of course I watched him I saw him play loads and he was an average player who wasn't good enough for our team now,



SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSShhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! You are making a fool of yourself now.

Roberts says it how he sees it. Good on him. He is from a time before the club became a business, I wish we were still like it.
 

DC_Boy

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His goal at WHL in the UEFA Final helped us win the Cup, but to be honest, we were outplayed for long periods in that game and could easily have lost, and if I recall, the goal came about from the play of the recently introduced Ardiles.

Hi Arthur :) Somewhat off-topic but I'm glad to read that little piece re 84 game, as I often feel Spurs fans seem to suffer amnesia with regard to that game (completely understandly given the dramatic end :))

We were lucky to win that night and were outplayed overall by anderlecht, but not many spurs fans seem to remember that when the game is discussed.

Life is strange etc, football a funny old game, we've been robbed a few times in Europe, Benfica being the prime case, but sometimes you get the luck :)
 

worcestersauce

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Jan 23, 2006
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Sorry but he was an average player, he made up for that with his drive and wolehearted attitude, I don't deny that we could do with that attitude now but he's not good enough for our current team if we are serious about wanting real success, and by the way Stevie Perryman was our captain and he had all the drive guts and attitude that Roberts had but he is less remembered for it because he was a far better player with ability and skill way beyond; no one could ever call him average.

All of which I would have quietly thought but kept to myself if he hadn't decided to make a career out of slagging off my club, after all no one wants to ask him about anyone else and no one craves his opinion on the state of football in general and they don't want to have him on their radio show to say nice things about Spurs do they.
 

RussellYid

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Not here to discuss whether he's a great player or not. I'm 25, so wouldn't know.

But he's making his money nowadays slating the club. I heard him complain on SSN about not being invited to the legends night. I almost broke my TV. I wouldn't have invited him either.

Ex-players (captains no less) like Roberts and Sherwood should take a look at Gary Mabbutt - a true Spurs legend - and realise that sometimes you must ignore the mighty queens head and keep your mouth shut.

Roberts is a quote whore.
 

Real_madyidd

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Sorry but he was an average player, he made up for that with his drive and wolehearted attitude, I don't deny that we could do with that attitude now but he's not good enough for our current team

Two words. Michael Dawson. Now tell me Roberst wasn't (a) Braver (b) Better.
 

Kurtzen

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Worcester, sorry, but how many of our current team do you imagine will be involved in what amounts to a hypothetical success? At the moment I've got midtable pencilled in as a coup/success to which our unesteemed hatchet man would be more use than the frail posturings of a JJ? sori.
 
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