Would expect nothing less from Jordan. It's good to know he's loyal, if not a little blinkered.

HR is NOT a stupid manager or a completely tactically naive manager - however to say, for example, he'll "change things when needed", I'll have to disagree. And, as for the England thing not affecting players, come on.

Anyway, like I said, couldn't expect anything less from a loyal friend like Jordan so...

Who would expect JJ to say anything else?

I saw a lot during HR time at Spurs but I can honestly say I didn't see many tactical masterstrokes, just a lot of knee jerk stuff and accomodating his favoured players out of position...

4th-5th-4th is the evidence that backs Jordan up. We'll see if AVB can equal or better it with his management style and tactics.

I don't know what evidence would point to a tactical genius. Results surely? Or is it only if your changes makes a difference like a sub comes on and scores? If it is a mesure of how you respond to turn around the way a game is progressing, doesn't that suggest you made a pigs ear of your tactics at the start?

Or am I forgetting - Harry never made three subs at once, which might well be the tell-tale sign of a master tactician!

Someone's wife is getting fed up of them being at home.

I don't think HR used the squad well enough. Players got burnt out towards the end of the last 2 seasons and he persisted with the same ideas ( the roving Bale experiment) when it clearly didn't work and we were going backwards. Good players sat on the bench week after week until they had no match fitness and little motivation and were then expected to hit the ground running when called upon. There's more to tactics than what you do over 90 minutes. it's how you manage your assets over the season that counts.

Tactics at set pieces would have been nice.

The truth as always lies somewhere in betweeen on both Harry and probably AVB.
I got the impression that Harry was always struggling to keep all the balls in the air at once
and everything eventually spun out of control, aided in large part by matters external to Spurs.

Harry is no more a tactician than any other manager in football, he knows the basics and the players always said that he would tell them to enjoy themselves out on the pitch. We should have scored more goals as we created a lot of chances but Harry's tactical failings can be spotted in the games against Norwich, Sunderland and Wolves at home and Villa, Arsenal, Sunderland away plus Chelsea in the FA Cup. The Arsenal game is the most damning evidence against Harry as we could all see that out midfield was outnumbered and Parker and Modric were chasing shadows, after scoring 2 goals away it just needed someone to tell either Saha or Adebayor to stay deep with the midfield and make things congested.

I'm fed up of people laying into a manager that had a better record than our newer younger manager with a squad that cost a fraction of the price of Chelsea's.

Every article even mentioning HR bring the same fucking tiresome bile out.

HR proved himself and did a great job for us, leave it out ffs. You don't see Harry fans laying into AVB, he deserves a chance and HR deserves credit for what he did.

Clearly this is an ironic article no? As if Jordan was speaking from his recent holiday in opposite land

Do you want to highlight any of the comments made so far in which "fucking tiresome bile" has even spouted? I can't see any. I see people questioning Jordan's comments, some accepting, some note. No bile though.

As for HR "fans" not "laying into AVB" u must having a laugh! Look, both pro- and anti-HR supporters have individuals in their midst who take things to extreme, who don't either see his negatives and positive traits. However, to say that the same "bile" is being spouted is condense ending and, in this case (out of the posts made) wrong.

Well you can't blame Jordan for this and no doubt he'll follow HR to another good job. With Harry we played a good shape but were clueless at free kicks and corners. The one game he did get right was home to Swansea when we all thought we were watching our new manager in Brendan Rogers because Harry was going to England so I wanted to see if Rogers was smarter than Redknapp and that day he definitely wasn't. Harry flooded the midfield and Swansea who were seeing off all comers at the time couldn't cope with it. The next game Everton copied our tactics and beat Swansea easily too. All in all though this sort of thing didn't happen often enough. Here's hoping AVB can do a lot more of it!

So by switching a player to a secondary position to alter tactics is wrong, but to set out the team the same way week in week out is correct? What the fook do you expect to see, and why would he play a player out of position unless it was to cover an injury or a change of tactics.

"Knee jerk" stuff can be seen week in week out in the Premier when any team is chasing a game or defending a lead. Do you actually watch football, or are you just part of Keanes Prawn Sandwich club?

I guess when we tore Inter a new ass, smashed nine past Wigan and finished 4/5/4 that was Harry just saying go and fucking run around a bit to the team?

Well said 'gaz'.