Hillsborough inquests

dontcallme

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#83
So they're just removing the option of people having a choice whether or not to buy the paper.
There will be plenty of people in Liverpool who have no affiliation whatsoever with the club or the events of 1988, who buy the paper. But stupidity wins...
TBH I respect anyone who stands up to the evilness and stupidity of Murdoch's publications.
 

DJS

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#84
The Sun isn't the only tabloid that prints lies though, not sure why everyone is always seems so obsessed with it...
 

SpursBhoys

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I don't like the Sun as much as the next bloke, but can we seriously start getting over Hillsborough already? Christ.
 

dontcallme

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I don't like the Sun as much as the next bloke, but can we seriously start getting over Hillsborough already? Christ.
I'm not sure they should.

The Sun's misreporting was beyond disgusting and it continues to this day. Their agenda over facts has very real consequences.

Read the case of Chris Jefferies and how The Sun tried to portray him as a pervert and a freak to sell papers.

Read Fake Sheikhs and Royal Trappings showing how The Sun's malicious reporting has resulted in people committing suicide and courts wasting time with crimes their reporters have invented.

Anyone buying the Sun or reading it online is funding a very evil corporation and the fact someone is standing up to them is a good thing.
 

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I don't like the Sun as much as the next bloke, but can we seriously start getting over Hillsborough already? Christ.
I'm not sure they should.

The Sun's misreporting was beyond disgusting and it continues to this day. Their agenda over facts has very real consequences.

Read the case of Chris Jefferies and how The Sun tried to portray him as a pervert and a freak to sell papers.

Read Fake Sheikhs and Royal Trappings showing how The Sun's malicious reporting has resulted in people committing suicide and courts wasting time with crimes their reporters have invented.

Anyone buying the Sun or reading it online is funding a very evil corporation and the fact someone is standing up to them is a good thing.
The Sun and News International generally continue to be very snidey about Hillsborough as well.

When the verdict was announced recently I'm not sure if the Sun even ran the story, and the Times did but only in the second edition that day (the first edition goes to Liverpool apparently).

Fair play to Liverpool I say.
 

dontcallme

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The Sun and News International generally continue to be very snidey about Hillsborough as well.

When the verdict was announced recently I'm not sure if the Sun even ran the story, and the Times did but only in the second edition that day (the first edition goes to Liverpool apparently).

Fair play to Liverpool I say.
Yeah if someone tried to blame my family members for their own deaths when nothing of the sort occurred I don't think I'd be very forgiving.

Like to think I have enough empathy for others going through the same thing.
 

Flynn

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I last bought any tabloid in 1998 after going to the World cup. The lengths the rags were going to wind up England fans to get reaction shots was an eye opener for me.
 

TheChosenOne

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But Liverpool's ex-players will prostrate themselves for the Sky Sports Dollars ?

Strange. Considering.
 
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Pellshek

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Laying the blame for what was an accident waiting to happen on 1 cop - Duckenfield alone is on the hook for 95 manslaughter charges - is clearly iniquitous. It makes an ass of the law, which demands that justice is evenly applied and proportional. It's prima facie absurd to think 1 person is responsible, and if you can only charge 1 person, you probably shouldn't charge anyone.

The obstruction cases are far stronger, and much more rational.
 

Topeka

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With all due respect, how long will this keep going for, don't the victims families need closure?
 

brendanb50

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With all due respect, how long will this keep going for, don't the victims families need closure?
I used to think similarly because for a long time a review of the disaster didn't seem to be happening - but as time has gone on and the inquiry has dug through the mess and lies over the decades i actually think closure comes from punishing those responsible. That's justice IMO.
 

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Laying the blame for what was an accident waiting to happen on 1 cop - Duckenfield alone is on the hook for 95 manslaughter charges - is clearly iniquitous. It makes an ass of the law, which demands that justice is evenly applied and proportional. It's prima facie absurd to think 1 person is responsible, and if you can only charge 1 person, you probably shouldn't charge anyone.

The obstruction cases are far stronger, and much more rational.
I think the person who really should be on the hook for it is the guy who put Duckenfield there (his name escapes me atm) when Duckenfield and his command unit had no experience in how to handle a matchday at the stadium, but I believe he's escaped via that old trick of getting old and dying already.

Duckenfield was ultimately the Commander though, part of that duty is being the one responsible when things go wrong.
 
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