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dontcallme

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Liverpool have moved very quickly in the transfer market, even with the CL final.

Already they’ve added Fabinho to the incoming Keita which gives their midfield a new look for next season. We need to be as decisive as they are being. With another defender and a GK (Alison) reportedly on their radar, they could be in very good shape going into the new campaign, especially if you factor in Salah missing the WC through injury.

It’s more important than ever that we move quickly this summer and add quality not quantity to the squad. If Toby’s going, then get it done early.

Heard the same stuff last summer and yet we still finished above them.
 

FreddieYid

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Heard the same stuff last summer and yet we still finished above them.

I’m not suggesting we won’t be able to finish above them, irrespective of how quickly we act this summer.

That wasn’t the point I was making.
 

dontcallme

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I’m not suggesting we won’t be able to finish above them, irrespective of how quickly we act this summer.

That wasn’t the point I was making.
I know.

Every summer people go on about Liverpool being decisive and getting busy done early.

Then we do better than them anyway. Kind of suggests it is not as important as some think.
 
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nicdic

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Liverpool can move earlier with the type of money they have.

They're in a similar position to us in regard to needing to move quickly or get beat by the bigger fish, but have far more global appeal and cash than us to be able to make it happen.
 

dontcallme

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Liverpool can move earlier with the type of money they have.

They're in a similar position to us in regard to needing to move quickly or get beat by the bigger fish, but have far more global appeal and cash than us to be able to make it happen.

That is true. Also the market can change in an instant.

Real Madrid buy a world class centre mid and suddenly Modric or Kovacic can become available.

Getting business done early is not the be all and end all.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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I'm not overly bothered about the early Liverpoo business. Something tells me that it was simply 'reactive' to help their supporters quickly move on from Saturday evening's comedy show loss.

As @nicdic states above, they have that global appeal to actually be able to get a player to quickly say yes. We're not there yet. We have to do some serious wining & dining to seduce our targets.
 

nicdic

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I'm not overly bothered about the early Liverpoo business. Something tells me that it was simply 'reactive' to help their supporters quickly move on from Saturday evening's comedy show loss.

As @nicdic states above, they have that global appeal to actually be able to get a player to quickly say yes. We're not there yet. We have to do some serious wining & dining to seduce our targets.
I'd expect the Fabinho deal was well underway before Saturday's loss, and would have been completed just as quickly if they'd have won.
 

CoopsieDeadpool

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I'd expect the Fabinho deal was well underway before Saturday's loss, and would have been completed just as quickly if they'd have won.


Yeah that's fair enough. I was just attempting to quell the panic that appears to be building up in here.
 

FreddieYid

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That is true. Also the market can change in an instant.

Real Madrid buy a world class centre mid and suddenly Modric or Kovacic can become available.

Getting business done early is not the be all and end all.

Or you could argue that buying Salah before the Naymar transfer further skewed the market, could have been the difference between them being able to afford him or not.
 

dontcallme

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Or you could argue that buying Salah before the Naymar transfer further skewed the market, could have been the difference between them being able to afford him or not.
Not really, it’s not like every other transfer fee went up after the Neymar deal. In fact, I am not sure any did.
 

double0

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Sorry to go on about Liverpool just the Fabinho transfer caught me be surprise (very well played by them) by moving quickly I think you can actually save money. Mo Salah is a classic example had they waited last season they would of payed more when you had Siggy going to Everton for 50M pricing got silly.

Anyway that said we need to follow our own plan
 

bceej

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Our approach has served us very well really. We have been perennial overachievers.

Our targets should be the same as they have been - young, hungry and consistent. The consistency is the aspect most seem to feel is an issue. It is no surprise that our best signings have come off good seasons at their respective clubs where they have been playing week in week out as a key player. Our sidelined and bit-part signings have been disappointing.

We should be more reliant on our academy to fill in the gaps. I understand the need for experience however the likes of Sissoko and Llorente were not only unnecessary purchases, they harmed the chances of a number of our most promising from getting minutes, which really is one of our selling points and has been for Pochettino's time at the club. We cannot lose that.

The most glaring issue we seemed to have was the slowness in the middle of the park at times so a central midfielder with presence and purpose is necessary. We really need one out of the top drawer. I have no issue trying to get hold of your Riqui Puigs of the world, in fact I think we would do well to continue plundering talent from abroad, but we need to be aiming at players like Milinkovic-Savic, Thiago and Kovacic - though I appreciate these players are quite different.

We'll be OK. I trust in Poch and Hitchen, and in Levy to make the right choice - he above all people will realise how this season could affect the club long-term. It's not one to be taken lightly.
 

coys200

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Levy must surely recognise this is the summer to make a statement even if he has to borrow £150m off joe. It really is 2 or 3 players from being a title contending squad. In a dream scenario I’d upgrade both full back areas but what we have is just about ok. And hopefully Rose will recover his form and Aurier settle in. Personally I’d like to see us play 4141. So it really is a top draw CM and AM and we are virtually there. I’d buy a young promising as Kane back up as we have Son already. I’ve no doubt the squad will be stronger on August 9th than it is now. If that the case we won’t be far off.
 

ItsBoris

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Heard the same stuff last summer and yet we still finished above them.

Does that really matter that much? We finished 2 points above them with not as good goal difference and they made it to a Champions league final. I'd say they had a better season overall. Plus one of their two main signings last summer (Keita) isn't joining till this year.

But the point is that our closest rival in the league is buying players that are seriously top quality. We need to do the same or we're not going to step up, as the thread title says.
 

shelfboy68

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Levy must surely recognise this is the summer to make a statement even if he has to borrow £150m off joe. It really is 2 or 3 players from being a title contending squad. In a dream scenario I’d upgrade both full back areas but what we have is just about ok. And hopefully Rose will recover his form and Aurier settle in. Personally I’d like to see us play 4141. So it really is a top draw CM and AM and we are virtually there. I’d buy a young promising as Kane back up as we have Son already. I’ve no doubt the squad will be stronger on August 9th than it is now. If that the case we won’t be far off.
I don't think levy is worried about making a statement he has his vision and plan on how he feels it should be done and that won't change.
As for us being stronger at the start of the season I agree but then so will all of our rivals exciting times.
 

dontcallme

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Does that really matter that much? We finished 2 points above them with not as good goal difference and they made it to a Champions league final. I'd say they had a better season overall. Plus one of their two main signings last summer (Keita) isn't joining till this year.

But the point is that our closest rival in the league is buying players that are seriously top quality. We need to do the same or we're not going to step up, as the thread title says.

Us finishing above our rivals is pretty important.

We knew we were in for a tough season with playing at Wembley.

The point I was responding to was regarding buying players early. We hear this every year but there is nothing to suggest it is a defining factor.
 
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