How important is a quality goalkeeper

Hoops

Well-Known Member
Joined
Mar 15, 2015
Messages
3,650
Thread starter #1
How important is a quality keeper in terms of winning things?

What does a good goalie need?

curious to guage opinion
 

NinjaTuna

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 9, 2017
Messages
848
#2
Good to see you're back, Hoops, with your random thread creations :D

In regards to your question, i think it is very important to have a quality goalkeeper. We've seen from recent seasons at teams such as Arsenal (this season), West Ham (Hart) and Liverpool how having an incompetent gk can effect your results
 

Gbspurs

Gatekeeper for debates, King of the plonkers
Joined
Jan 27, 2011
Messages
20,498
#3
Id suggest if you ranked the league in order of best keepers you wouldn't be a million miles off the actual league table which tells you all you need really.
 

dontcallme

SC Supporter
Joined
Mar 18, 2005
Messages
13,451
#4
I think to an extent a team can carry a weak full back. Sometimes an experienced centre back can help a raw, young centre back into perofrming well. Or top quality defensive mids can protect an average defence into being defensively decent.

But I think no team can carry a truly weak goalkeeper.
 

Blake Griffin

Well-Known Member
Joined
Oct 3, 2011
Messages
11,935
#6
Id suggest if you ranked the league in order of best keepers you wouldn't be a million miles off the actual league table which tells you all you need really.
is that not going to be the case for pretty much every position?
 

'O Zio

Well-Known Member
Joined
Dec 27, 2014
Messages
2,343
#8
I think it depends on your other players and your style. For example, if you've got a really solid core of defenders/CMs and your tactics are to shut things down through the middle and limit the opposition to long shots from outside the area, then I guess you don't need such a great GK because they're likely to not face many shots and when they do, they're speculative efforts from 30yds.

However, if you've not got the best defense, or the way your team plays exposes you to facing a lot of shots, then obviously a good GK can make a huge difference.
 

UncleBuck

Well-Known Member
Joined
Aug 20, 2003
Messages
5,740
#10
So much now is dependent on formation and how a manager wants his keeper to play.
Take Hart, prone to the odd clanger before PG came in but he wasn’t a bad keeper, PG saw that he wasn’t a ‘sweeper keeper’ and chopped him, subsequently JH is pretty much a shadow of the keeper he was three seasons ago and his confidence has been shot.
Jack Butland and the Everton lad both fit into the Hart category, old school keepers with the ability to pull of worldies but will chuck one in every now and then.
I played as a sweeper keeper fifteen years ago for one team but that was after being an outfield player and had the ability to play out from 30 yds, I find it amazing that even now keepers are so uncomfortable on the ball though when they have so much time to train compared to what I had!
 

cider spurs

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 5, 2016
Messages
2,295
#14
The elite GKs can, and do, make a difference. Often heard it said the amount of points the likes of Schmichel and de Gea have earnt United by pulling of quality saves thus securing the 3 points from winning positions.
 

brendanb50

Well-Known Member
Joined
Jul 21, 2005
Messages
3,342
#15
The elite GKs can, and do, make a difference. Often heard it said the amount of points the likes of Schmichel and de Gea have earnt United by pulling of quality saves thus securing the 3 points from winning positions.
Top teams have top keepers more often than not and i agree Schmeichel earned United many points in his time there, top goalkeepers can be measured on this more often than not - earning points from draws and wins.

For me one of the big things about having a top keeper is that it allows your defence to play with confidence, not only does a good keeper organise his backline but he gives them an assurance which a dodgy keeper undoubtedly will not.
 

Klinsmannesque

Active Member
Joined
Jul 26, 2013
Messages
430
#18
Very. I play as a CB, and beginning of the season we were getting dicked every week. Always scored goals, but conceded loads. One week he got lobbed standing on his line he was that terrible. Anyway, changed keeper over Christmas, haven't lost since. Point is, no matter what level, confidence in your keeper breeds confidence throughout the entire team.
 
Top