Huddlestone slows it down

jonnyrotten

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#41
agreed
anything is better than Jenas anyway -at least we keep the ball with hudd
After being a long time watcher and enjoyer of this board I feel inclined to finally post!
Jenas is inconsistent, as Huddlestone is (i think his past two performances have been average at best). The thing is that both players plus Zokora have HUGE potential to develop. Jenas in particular attacks the box well and this is something the team is crying out for. He should be back for the semi final 1st leg so here's hoping we watches out for those dirty fouling gooners!
 

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A bad performance for Hudd meant he wasnt quite on song and controlling the game like he was against Man City for example. He didnt lose the ball regularly for the team though. His pass completion was still well up there.Thats the standard hes already set for himself.
Jenas however is another kettel of fish. He gets foward - big deal - its at the expense of every other area of his game. Lets agree to disagree for now. When Jenas get back in the team as I fear he might do your own little player cam and watch him for a whole game or a good chunk of it. Watch what he contributes and then come back to me. Hes bad news.
 
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#43
To people talking about intelligence over pace...players these days are required to have BOTH. Arsenal players have BOTH, so its not a matter of Lindford vs Huddlestone etc
 

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Thanks for the condescension. I would hope that at least you would get behind him when he does return? I personally think Jenas and THud are tremendous players and will provide a great balance when they play together.
 

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people forget Malbranque is actually a Attacking CM. And the way hes been getting stuck in lately I think HUDD + MALBRANQUE is worth go.

Interesting, though lacking pace through the middle. Who out on the left? This new French kid who's name escapes me...

Can't see it happening. Could only see Malbranque in the middle if we played a 5 man midfield with 2 out and out wingers, which opens a can of worms
 

laskoir

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Jonny I hope your right!!!!!

Sugarman - I cant hekp feel Malbranque is wasted out wide but agreed where do we fit him in
 
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Our TEAM is not lacking pace. It is lacking muscle. Murphy, Malbranque, Lennon> Hud is huge buct cant do it all on his own. Hud is a much needed wall in the middle of the park. You will not see many "pacey" midfielders skipping past him as he has telescopic legs. And he will win everything in the air or a physical challenge. It is swings and roundabouts.
 

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I don't think that Hudd is a slow as he looks.
Sure, he's not lightning out of the blocks, and it does take a while to get his gigantic frame moving.
He's got a bloody big stride and because he's a such big lad and it just looks like he's running in slo-mo!
Hudd will never be a Colin Jackson type starter but if he gets a headstart in his mind with his reading of the game, he can set off before anyone else. Once he's got the ball. it's not like he has to outrun people - he just passes round them or shifts his bulk to block the ball.

That's exactly what we (nearly)all used to argue when someone accused Carrick of being slow (apart from the bits about being built like a bungalow!).
 

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To people talking about intelligence over pace...players these days are required to have BOTH. Arsenal players have BOTH, so its not a matter of Lindford vs Huddlestone etc

They are not 'required to have' anything. A good footballer is a good footballer. All players have different attributes.

I think sometimes people completely forget what the game is about. The players aren't robots, this is not a computer game where the only thing you need your players to have is pace because you can do the rest.

Arsenal aren't the best side in England, let alone europe or the world. Yes they have pace which is great but ability manifests itself in many ways and pace doesn't always win out. Its just nonsense.
 

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i dont want a team full of africans with a french passport,its not all about pace,huddlestone can be our new hoddle,i will take that anyday
 

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A bad performance for Hudd meant he wasnt quite on song and controlling the game like he was against Man City for example. He didnt lose the ball regularly for the team though. His pass completion was still well up there.Thats the standard hes already set for himself.
Jenas however is another kettel of fish. He gets foward - big deal - its at the expense of every other area of his game. Lets agree to disagree for now. When Jenas get back in the team as I fear he might do your own little player cam and watch him for a whole game or a good chunk of it. Watch what he contributes and then come back to me. Hes bad news.
Complete load of bollocks. Jenas isn't an out and out attacking midfielder - he puts in a lot of important tackles and isn't afraid of getting stuck in - I don't understand how anyone can watch him play and not notice his overall contribution.

My main gripe with Jenas is that he doesn't know what to do with the ball in forward situations, but having players like Malbranque, Berbs and Lennon next to him means this doesn't matter as much. Every team needs a box-to-box midfield type, and until Zokora can find some form again Jenas is ours.
 

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I don't think that Hudd is a slow as he looks.
Sure, he's not lightning out of the blocks, and it does take a while to get his gigantic frame moving.
He's got a bloody big stride and because he's a such big lad and it just looks like he's running in slo-mo!
Hudd will never be a Colin Jackson type starter but if he gets a headstart in his mind with his reading of the game, he can set off before anyone else. Once he's got the ball. it's not like he has to outrun people - he just passes round them or shifts his bulk to block the ball.

That's exactly what we (nearly)all used to argue when someone accused Carrick of being slow (apart from the bits about being built like a bungalow!).
Yes, have to agree, what we should call it is laidback, or very calm, controlled and amazing ability to control the ball and pass the ball. anyway who would you perfer to tackle against, Lennon or Huddlestone defending against you, me I would prefer little lennon. see we forget that Huddlestone is a defender/midfield and Lennon is a striker/winger.
 

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i dont want a team full of africans with a french passport,its not all about pace,huddlestone can be our new hoddle,i will take that anyday
Errr... well unless Zokora has a French passport (and I'm not sure that he does), we don't have any of those do we?
 

davidmatzdorf

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Errr... well unless Zokora has a French passport (and I'm not sure that he does), we don't have any of those do we?
Passing over for a moment my irritation with beefy's rather close-to-the-edge post, I think we have: Benoit Assou-Ekotto. French-born, plays football for Cameroon.

And, judging by his name and appearance, I reckon that Adel Taarabt's parents are from North Africa.
 

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That's it then. We just have to sign someone with technique, agility, balance, power and pace. In the meantime this lad will do for me.
 

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Just like to add my thoughts on the subject.

Hudds will not get much quicker than he already is, although at 20 he is still developing. What we need to realise is we have relatively new partnerships in all areas of the field which will manifest itself in the team looking disjointed and lacking in consistency. With time the mgt will get the partnerships and the balance of the team right.
For example we all know Murphy really is not going to cut it at the lane, whereas Hudds will, why? They both have about the same level of pace and mobility. The difference is class (in the football sense). Hudds oozes it Murphy does not. Put Hudds with an in form Zoko or JJ and you will notice the difference and we will not be questioning his lack of pace. Get a proper quality left winger who offers a threat along the lines of Lennon and you will notice the difference.

Also, Spurs have a history of classy players Hoddle, Gazza & Waddle to mention a few from our recent past, so we are a sucker for these types. On a number of occasions these players have failed to deliver us major honours but we have thoroughly enjoyed watching them, enjoy the Hudd for what he is....a 20 year baller with the potential to be even greater.

Sorry for the long post.

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The HUDD is going to be one of the greatest players ever to put on a spurs shirt i truely believe! he is young still learning but he has the tools, the best way to play him is defensive mid let jenas/zakora do the running he does the clearing up and putting in the killer pass and if this is the way he is played he will be up there with danny and jimmy
 
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