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Huddlestone-The most overrated player at our club.

muffwah

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I agree that he is overrated, he is still young though and he could improve dramatically in two or three seasons. At the moment he is average at best, his fabled passing is a myth and he is shit at plugging the gaps. Why the fuck Jol picks him and Zokora together I don't know, that was the selection which coincided with our terrible winter run last year. Sames mistakes again and again and again.....
 

Annabel

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He's made nearly forty league appearances for us now and hasn't turned into Fabregas. This is totally unacceptable and I'm very unhappy indeed about the situation.

:rofl: That made me giggle.

I love the Hudd. If he could just get a little more agression into his play he'd be absolutely fantastic. Nothin' wrong with his passing.
 

SpurSince57

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I agree that he is overrated, he is still young though and he could improve dramatically in two or three seasons. At the moment he is average at best, his fabled passing is a myth and he is shit at plugging the gaps. Why the fuck Jol picks him and Zokora together I don't know, that was the selection which coincided with our terrible winter run last year. Sames mistakes again and again and again.....

You don't?
 

Netty

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I'm a big fan of Huddlestone, think he'll be a really good player, he's still so young, a bit more prem & europe experience & he'll come good.
 

bubble07

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i hate when people say his still young, he will improve ect ect. Well if they do improve you can bet your bottom dollar they will end up at man united.

We need to buy experience in january. Someone that can make an immediate impact virtually strait away
 

18Klinsmann

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Tom Huddlestone is a good prospect, but lately he has not been playing well. He has good vision and I don't agree that his passing rate is limited, but due to his size he does have a few problems covering the space that needs covering when you play the one part of a two-player midfield.
To me the jury is still out on his future, but for now I hope Jol will consider Boateng en central midfield on Sunday. With the Prince and Zokora in the middle the Merseysiders will at least be collecting a few bruises along with the points they will most likely bank unless we get lucky or brilliant.
 

Rupstoh

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Same old story. Tom Huddlestone is a fringe player at the moment due to age and experience.

We need to buy/be loaned 2 clever players; one that can hold a ball, pass simply and slow the play down. We could benefit from another that can hold a ball, pass the ball even more simply and then change the pace.

We haven't got that.
 

SpurSince57

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Same old story. Tom Huddlestone is a fringe player at the moment due to age and experience.

We need to buy/be loaned 2 clever players; one that can hold a ball, pass simply and slow the play down. We could benefit from another that can hold a ball, pass the ball even more simply and then change the pace.

We haven't got that.

Apart from Davids and Naybet, our recent experiences with veterans haven't been too happy. Tugay may be close to qualifying for his free bus pass but he runs Blackburn's midfield; more to the point, he has run ours in the last two or three meetings. If you've still got last season's game at the Lane, just look at the way he challenges for the ball and then spreads it out to their wide men easy as kiss-my-hand. He doesn't wait for the ball to come to him, he goes for it, and in doing so draws our midfielders out of position. He may be slow as fuck, but his experience allows him to compensate for that. Campo's another one. If Lee hadn't brought him back we'd have mullered Bolton the other week, but he protected their dodgy CBs and pulled their midfield together. And scored their equaliser. MOTD ran an analysis of the stuff he was doing, which I don't think you'd have noticed even if you'd been at the game, mainly because you'd have been watching our players.

We would really benefit from one of those two, or someone like them, because they're exactly the kind of players the Hudd should be emulating. He's always going to be a bit ponderous, and even if he does a bit of speed training he'll still have the turning circle of a small oil tanker, which is the real problem, not pace. What he's got to do is learn to compensate for this, how to anticipate and stuff, and that's going to take time.
 

Partizan

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Apart from Davids and Naybet, our recent experiences with veterans haven't been too happy. Tugay may be close to qualifying for his free bus pass but he runs Blackburn's midfield; more to the point, he has run ours in the last two or three meetings. If you've still got last season's game at the Lane, just look at the way he challenges for the ball and then spreads it out to their wide men easy as kiss-my-hand. He doesn't wait for the ball to come to him, he goes for it, and in doing so draws our midfielders out of position. He may be slow as fuck, but his experience allows him to compensate for that. Campo's another one. If Lee hadn't brought him back we'd have mullered Bolton the other week, but he protected their dodgy CBs and pulled their midfield together. And scored their equaliser. MOTD ran an analysis of the stuff he was doing, which I don't think you'd have noticed even if you'd been at the game, mainly because you'd have been watching our players.

We would really benefit from one of those two, or someone like them, because they're exactly the kind of players the Hudd should be emulating. He's always going to be a bit ponderous, and even if he does a bit of speed training he'll still have the turning circle of a small oil tanker, which is the real problem, not pace. What he's got to do is learn to compensate for this, how to anticipate and stuff, and that's going to take time.

Another example is Hamann, a player that is slow as fuck but reads the game like few others
 

SpurSince57

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Yes. My brother-in-law is a long-standing/suffering City ST holder, and reckons that despite all the fuss over Elano and Petrov, Hamann's been the unsung hero behind their improvement, orchestrating all the fancy stuff in front and covering a very good CB pairing.
 

Bus-Conductor

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Apart from Davids and Naybet, our recent experiences with veterans haven't been too happy. Tugay may be close to qualifying for his free bus pass but he runs Blackburn's midfield; more to the point, he has run ours in the last two or three meetings. If you've still got last season's game at the Lane, just look at the way he challenges for the ball and then spreads it out to their wide men easy as kiss-my-hand. He doesn't wait for the ball to come to him, he goes for it, and in doing so draws our midfielders out of position. He may be slow as fuck, but his experience allows him to compensate for that. Campo's another one. If Lee hadn't brought him back we'd have mullered Bolton the other week, but he protected their dodgy CBs and pulled their midfield together. And scored their equaliser. MOTD ran an analysis of the stuff he was doing, which I don't think you'd have noticed even if you'd been at the game, mainly because you'd have been watching our players.

We would really benefit from one of those two, or someone like them, because they're exactly the kind of players the Hudd should be emulating. He's always going to be a bit ponderous, and even if he does a bit of speed training he'll still have the turning circle of a small oil tanker, which is the real problem, not pace. What he's got to do is learn to compensate for this, how to anticipate and stuff, and that's going to take time.

If you go back to my post (posibly in the match ratings) this touches on what i said. What greatly helps Tugay is Blackburn have two very talented and hard working wide men. We don';t because Jol rarely plays two wide men in their correct positions. And even if he does ours (Lennon & Bale) are still very green.

It's OK blaming Huddlestone or Zokora for stuff, but they would be helped greatly if we had wide man that gave options and strikers that moved off the ball better and more of the time.
 

Bus-Conductor

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And another thing. I don't think it is Huddlestone's talent that is over rated, just his general effectiveness and the consistancy with which it is applied.
 

Rocksuperstar

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hah! funneh thread :lol:

Huddlestone is barely even 20, has a fantastic footballing brain and shows the promise that could, in 3 or 4 years, have him playing that holding role with the best in the world. Last season he was lambasted for his size and weight, and the fact that he was pretty immobile, earning his place mainly from his holding up and passing.

This season he's lost weight, got into better shape and he's showing he's been working hard on the areas of his game that he lacked last year. He's started getting stuck in in the tackle now, instead of the way he used to pressure people last year, marking and standing off - he's made some superb tackles this term. He's been much more mobile, moving the play from left to right and picking up on some great runs.

The original whiner says he only goes for long balls or crosses to the far corners - so Dawson and Kaboul don't do that? Robbo doesn't plump for the hoof it over the measured knock out to midfield? Chimbo doesn't float every chance he gets over to the far edge of the box? :shrug:

It's obvious that Martin wants them to mix up the long ball with one-two's, watching the way we often play, so if you're going to slate Hudd for doing it you're basically slating the tactics of the squad.

By no means do i think Hudd is first name on the sheet, but the more games he gets this year the better he will be next year, and the next year. He has so much promise, he just needs to keep focussed and moronic, pointless slating by his own fans when the entire team is playing like monkeys won't help him.
 

Doctor Who

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huddlestone got fat ass , that`s his problem , he needs to be faked more from fag`s to lose weight
 

Roobear

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Huddlestone is class, yeah he has bad games, but his vision is amazing!!!! Against Villla he was shocking though. But all We do is moan about our players, but then thats what we are good at......
 
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