Huddlestone the new Carrick??

[brasil_spur]

Not just for his goal at the weekend, but taking into account his progress over the last couple of seasons, i really think Hudd could become our new Carrick.

Carrick joined us when he 23 for a fee of only £2.75m, and although was playing regularly at Wham he was hardly setting the world alight.

Hudd who's still only 22 (23 in December) is just starting to come into his own and really shine. He can get forward in attack and score a few goals. He has a better passing range IMO than Carrick does and defensively is strong. He's not the most mobile and agile of players, but neither was Carrick.

The only difference i think between the two is that Carrick had better positional play - but this will come if Hudd becomes our first choice CM alongside Palacios or Jenas.

So i reckon by the end of this season Hudd could be as valuable player to us as Carrick was before he joined Utd.

Also congrats to Hudd for getting in the England squad.

 

[van_Pommel]

I agree mate. I've been impressed with his progress and its easy to forget how young he is because of how long he's been with us.

I actually think that Huddlestone will be better that Carrick given time. I just hope its with us!

 

[Supersi32]

I think your underestimating Carrick...He (Carrick) gets about the pitch extremley well and is a lot more mobile and agile than you`re giving him credit for....The thing about Hudd is that good sides simply pass the ball around him in midfield. Hudd often looks slow and cumbersum and if he`s having an off day with his passing it makes him look out of his depth......

 

[davros]

Huddlestone will not be as valuable as pre-ManU Carrick by the end of the season. He is making progress, but JJ and Palacios are more effective in the middle so they will get the majority of games.

I'd love to see Huddlestone really make an impact, though. He is still young, and the gifts that he has will only be enhanced by the skills that more experience should yield. He could develop into quite a player over the next few years and I hope he does. Carrick level? Maybe.

 

[Robbiepope]

I have been a massive Huddlestone fan but I was at the Stoke and Sunderland match and apart from the fantastic goal he scored I thought he was poor to be honest, but so was a lot of others so I feel the jury is out with him for me

 

[spurs mental]

No, Carrick is better then Hudd. He can pass, is far more mobile then him too.

Also, as Supersi said, he can look out out of his depth when he's having a bad day, especially if it's against the good sides.

 

[fozzi44]

Huddlestone will not be as valuable as pre-ManU Carrick by the end of the season. He is making progress, but JJ and Palacios are more effective in the middle so they will get the majority of games.

I'd love to see Huddlestone really make an impact, though. He is still young, and the gifts that he has will only be enhanced by the skills that more experience should yield. He could develop into quite a player over the next few years and I hope he does. Carrick level? Maybe.

JJ? How can you say that. :roll:

 

[Rocksuperstar]

Huddlestone will not be as valuable as pre-ManU Carrick by the end of the season. He is making progress, but JJ and Palacios are more effective in the middle so they will get the majority of games.

That doesn't explain why Thud has started every game for us so far, with JJ quite obviously the one who will have to earn his place back.

Aside from that, i still don't understand where people get this faith in JJ from - he's never inspired me or, more worryingly, improved his game very much. Fair enough, he's worked hard on getting back and making more effort defensively, but it's all effort and not much attainment in his case. Thud will always be seen as clumsy, simply because of his size and the aggression he's started working into his game, but he's improved quite substantially since this time last year, looking much less the wrecking ball he was.

It's going to depend on what we want really - if we want all four of our midfielders hare-arseing forward at every opportunity then we play JJ alongside Wilson - they both like churning up the D in open play but it could leave us exposed considering our ranks of damaged defenders. We need to protect them where we can and Hudd provides that. He sits much, much deeper than JJ or the Sarge and creates himself the room/time to read the game and find them slick passes. There's none of the urgency of JJ and as long as the results keep going our way, that confidence can only build.

As i said, he's done a fine job so far this year, lets keep going and see where this young, very talented, intelligent midfielder can take us. :up:

 

[punky]

I'm proud of the way The hudd has developed himself. He's becoming an awesome prospect.

His tackling is also coming along nicely too.

 

[double0]

I've been an admirer of Huddlestone since he came to Spurs. This is a big season for him IMO, at the beginning of the season I thought he needed a full season first chioce under his belt to determine his future at the club. Good or bad I think it important to continually play him instead of the constantly rotating him, like Lampard he needs to play into and back into form

Admittingly against Arsenal he was a big disappointment partly for his distribution and work rate and the same question arose, is he good enough to take up forward? The following game against Sunderland he scored a cracking goal.

This season playing consistently will give us a better understanding.

 

[nicdic]

No, Carrick is better then Hudd. He can pass, is far more mobile then him too.

Also, as Supersi said, he can look out out of his depth when he's having a bad day, especially if it's against the good sides.

No one said he is better than Carrick, just that he is improving, and could be better.

That doesn't explain why Thud has started every game for us so far, with JJ quite obviously the one who will have to earn his place back.

Aside from that, i still don't understand where people get this faith in JJ from - he's never inspired me or, more worryingly, improved his game very much. Fair enough, he's worked hard on getting back and making more effort defensively, but it's all effort and not much attainment in his case. Thud will always be seen as clumsy, simply because of his size and the aggression he's started working into his game, but he's improved quite substantially since this time last year, looking much less the wrecking ball he was.

It's going to depend on what we want really - if we want all four of our midfielders hare-arseing forward at every opportunity then we play JJ alongside Wilson - they both like churning up the D in open play but it could leave us exposed considering our ranks of damaged defenders. We need to protect them where we can and Hudd provides that. He sits much, much deeper than JJ or the Sarge and creates himself the room/time to read the game and find them slick passes. There's none of the urgency of JJ and as long as the results keep going our way, that confidence can only build.

As i said, he's done a fine job so far this year, lets keep going and see where this young, very talented, intelligent midfielder can take us. :up:

Good post RSS :up:

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

Hudd who's still only 22 (23 in December) is just starting to come into his own and really shine. .

:rofl::rofl:
I must be watching a different player:shrug: he is even more inconsistent than JJ, and that is saying something - and to say that is "coming into his own" I hope not!

Still room for improvement, but hardly the finished article, and hardly beginning to shine. I would bite your hand off for a Carrick/Hudd swap tomorrow

 

[nicdic]

:rofl::rofl:
I must be watching a different player:shrug: he is even more inconsistent than JJ, and that is saying something - and to say that is "coming into his own" I hope not!

Still room for improvement, but hardly the finished article, and hardly beginning to shine. I would bite your hand off for a Carrick/Hudd swap tomorrow

Huddlestone is 22, we bought Carrick at 23, took him a year in the team to win a minority of Spurs fans round, was treated just like Huddlestone is now for most of his Spurs career. Most Spurs fans only realised how good he was gone, and probably because of the price and the club he went to rather than anything else.

No one is saying Huddlestone is the finished article, just that he is improving nicely and has been good this season, and could yet fill that hole left behind by Michael Carrick.

 

[Sanj]

Some fans have been too harsh on some of our midfield this year.
We have often lacked genuine wide options and hence teams find it easy to contain and neutralise our play.
For our central midfielders to be effective we need mobile wide players who will move into space and create space for the team. Since Modric has been out of the team, opposition can double up on Lennon knowing that he is our only real out ball in midfield - the other midfielders are too similar and don't possess the necessary pace/ skill/ movement to compenstae for the loss of our wide play - thats not their game. Therefore the wide players are very important for the way this current Spurs team is set-up.

 

[dontcallme]

I'm all for giving players time and experience but Huddlestone has not impressed me recently. The amount of misplaced passes against Sunderland was disgraceful.

He is improving but there's a long way to go.

 

[waresy]

gotta be doing something right for capello to call him up to the full squad. Always showed a lot of promise at u21 level but that isnt always an indication of developing into a top player.
3 goals in 15 games for a holding mid can't be bad and having played in every game this season it is good to see him being an integral part of the side

 

[WexfordTownSpur]

Huddlestone is 22, we bought Carrick at 23, took him a year in the team to win a minority of Spurs fans round, was treated just like Huddlestone is now for most of his Spurs career. Most Spurs fans only realised how good he was gone, and probably because of the price and the club he went to rather than anything else.

No one is saying Huddlestone is the finished article, just that he is improving nicely and has been good this season, and could yet fill that hole left behind by Michael Carrick.

And I am saying he has not improved - he is no better this season than last - he has been given more opportunities because JJ and modders were out, but it is not because he has improved so much.....sorry.

I have said for 3 years now, Hudd is a decent player, and I think what you see is what you get, he may improve a little, but he is just lacking to top 4 ability that carrick and other CM's have!

 

[nicdic]

And I am saying he has not improved - he is no better this season than last - he has been given more opportunities because JJ and modders were out, but it is not because he has improved so much.....sorry.

I have said for 3 years now, Hudd is a decent player, and I think what you see is what you get, he may improve a little, but he is just lacking to top 4 ability that carrick and other CM's have!

He has improved. You're only rating him off the last few games where the whole team has struggled with loss of Modric and Lennon. Read the whole of IOMLS's post on width, and you'll see why our whole midfield are struggling.

I'm not saying that Huddlestone would get into the starting lineup of any of the big 4 at the moment, but then neither was Carrick at 22, he definitely has the potential to play at that level though, unlike Jenas.

 

[Supersi32]

I think Hudd is equally as frustrating as Jenas....We all know that they can produce excellent performances, they are just not consistent enough....Hudd does have time on his side and probably has the potential for the most improvement....

 

[worcestersauce]

Carrick was not getting the rave reviews at West Ham at Hud's age in fact he took a lot of stick at times.
Tom Huddlestone is a better passer than Carrick even at this age, sorry but I remember the extra yard the forwards always had to run to get to his long passes not like Hud's inch perfect and did anyone see his pathetic efforts at goal against chelsea on Sunday? However Carrick sees more passes and protects his defenders better, whether he did at 22 or not I don't know but West Ham were relegated after all.

As for Tom's performances against Stoke and Sunderland it was clear that his passing wasn't at his best but to be fair when no sod is wider than the middle channel or further forward than the 18 yard line without ever getting wide of the oppositions box then his greatest asset is nullyfied and, it has to be said, by his own team.