Hugo Or Paulo? Is It Time To Pass The Mantle?

[Fredo]

Gazzaniga has some of the best distribution out of the GKs in the PL. Find this so important as he actually create chances with his great kicking, its like an extra player on the field. On the other hand, Lloris' poor distribution increases our vulnerability to concede.

Overall though it has to be Lloris purely for his ability to make world class saves most GKs can't.

 

[Gassin's finest]

Fucks sake... still with this?

 

[TheBlueRooster]

I think Gazza needs a run of PL games. As much as I love Hugo he's not been the same since coming back from the World Cup.

As for Loris being captain I've never liked a GK being captain most times if the ref needs to talk to our captain about something or one of our players it's Kane that is involved not Hugo.

 

[double0]

I can't believe Southampton let him go....that was a big mistake from them.

Lloris at his best is truly world class but lets himself down now and then

 

[bubble07]

Still Hugo but now because of gazzaniga isn't as indespensible as he was 2 years ago

 

[Bulletspur]

Not saying that Lloris should not maintain the captaincy, but for those who are advocating for him to hold the mantle based on the fact that he is Captain and a World cup winner is shallow thinking imo.

If he is off form, or Gazza (or anyone else) proves to be better than him, then he should be replaced irrespective of his status or the accolades.

For the record I voted Hugo

 

[mark87]

I can't believe Southampton let him go....that was a big mistake from them.

Lloris at his best is truly world class but lets himself down now and then

He was terrible at Southampton, but improved alot since coming to us.

 

[Archibald&Crooks]

At some point I think that we could do with an upgrade in this department. Someone like De Gea or even Allison don't concede the Rashford goal the other week.

I appreciate your point but how far are we going to take this error thing? We aren't ever going to sign a goalkeeper who doesn't make errors and yes, I know I'm leaving myself open to someone posting a list of his supposed errors but a lot of what people call his 'errors' often really aren't, during his 'main' scapegoat phase he took the blame for stuff that wasn't down to him because people were looking to do it, so bah humbug to that.

Perfection in any player doesn't exist, much more so with goalkeepers. De Gea has made some pretty bad mistakes in his time and say we signed him, you'd eventually be saying the same thing, De Gea wouldn't have let in this goal or that goal. Overall, we've got one of the best goalkeepers in the world playing for us and this upgrade people are banging on about would be very very difficult to find, it's a search and an expense we don't need to think about until the time comes and I think we're a couple of years away from that at the moment especially being adequately covered with Gazzaniga or whatever his name is.

Oh and the jury is out on him too IMO, lets see after a run of about 20 games or so in the PL before we start coming in our pants about him. Oh and oh.....Hugo lets that first goal in on Thursday night? Bedlam & calls for his head on a plate here on SC. Absolutely no doubt about it, that's how bad we are when we really get a taste for scaping

 

[Yid-ol]

I am a big fan of Gazzaniga and before the start of the season was vocal in saying he should be ahead of Vorm, but he isn't better than Lloris overall yet.

Yes kis kicking is a lot better but I still feel lloris's overall game is better and better for us still.

 

[daryl hannah]

Lloris nearly cost us CL qual this year. That's where we're at.

 

[Westmorlandspur]

Loris has never been World class Just a notch below. Gazza is good competition for him but not first choice. Not sure I’ve seen Gazza play sweeper keeper yet. Should have had that shot though. It didn’t deviate that much.

 

[Gbspurs]

Next time you watch a match i want you to count how many times Hugo saves us. And not routine keeper style but actually stops an expected goal.

I'm not sure if there are stats like expected goals for keepers but if there are I'd wager he is high up there.

 

[eViL]

Overall though it has to be Lloris purely for his ability to make world class saves most GKs can't.

As long as it's in the top corner and not a low shot.

Lloris refusal to use his feet and legs is a massive issue.

 

[gp13tot]

Not voting as i still think hugo is better all round but he's declined in the last 2 years and when he's out of sorts it would be good to see him dropped, if only to see if gazza can play week in, week out at the level he has in some of the cup games. May also sharpen hugo up knowing he's not nailed on for the big games regardless of his performance level.

I actually think we need to upgrade the position in the next season or two, just not sure who is available that would be good enough.

 

[parj]

On current requirements, Gazza for me. He mixes up the distribution and his long ball accuracy is fantastic

 

[parj]

Loris has never been World class Just a notch below. Gazza is good competition for him but not first choice. Not sure I’ve seen Gazza play sweeper keeper yet. Should have had that shot though. It didn’t deviate that much.

Enough of a deviation if you were expecting the ball to not deflect at that distance. We are talking about a keeper that is actually really good with his feet

 

[Dr Know]

Just the fact that this is even up for discussion excites me!

We have 2 excellent keepers and I think we should focus more on how lucky we are than if it should be one or the other

 

[Jaddas]

I appreciate your point but how far are we going to take this error thing? We aren't ever going to sign a goalkeeper who doesn't make errors and yes, I know I'm leaving myself open to someone posting a list of his supposed errors but a lot of what people call his 'errors' often really aren't, during his 'main' scapegoat phase he took the blame for stuff that wasn't down to him because people were looking to do it, so bah humbug to that.

Perfection in any player doesn't exist, much more so with goalkeepers. De Gea has made some pretty bad mistakes in his time and say we signed him, you'd eventually be saying the same thing, De Gea wouldn't have let in this goal or that goal. Overall, we've got one of the best goalkeepers in the world playing for us and this upgrade people are banging on about would be very very difficult to find, it's a search and an expense we don't need to think about until the time comes and I think we're a couple of years away from that at the moment especially being adequately covered with Gazzaniga or whatever his name is.

Oh and the jury is out on him too IMO, lets see after a run of about 20 games or so in the PL before we start coming in our pants about him. Oh and oh.....Hugo lets that first goal in on Thursday night? Bedlam & calls for his head on a plate here on SC. Absolutely no doubt about it, that's how bad we are when we really get a taste for scaping

All keepers make errors A&C but for me it's a question of how often and costly is it. Also, do they gain or cost you points over a season? Before Poch joined, Lloris was 100% gaining us points though we were crap then so he was called into action more.

For the past few years, we've had a much better defence and his errors seem more noticeable. We've also had more high profile games whereby any errors seem to be magnified.

Also, we play out from the back and Lloris is not very good with his feet so doesn't really suit Poch's style of play. Quite often he puts us under unnecessary pressure. Gazzaniga's distribution is much better and he started a couple of counter attacks the other night which Lloris doesn't have the capability of doing.

I'm not saying we need to get rid of Lloris, and I agree it is an unnecessary expense, but if we want to improve then it is something we may have to look at.

 

[ralvy]

Not saying that Lloris should not maintain the captaincy, but for those who are advocating for him to hold the mantle based on the fact that he is Captain and a World cup winner is shallow thinking imo.

If he is off form, or Gazza (or anyone else) proves to be better than him, then he should be replaced irrespective of his status or the accolades.

For the record I voted Hugo

Ehmmm, you do know there are great reasons for why he is both our captain and the captain of the World Cup winning team, right? He just wasn't awarded those high honors just because.

I like Gazza, he's looking good and his quick thinking when releasing the ball is like a new weapon for us but, he's just not even close of being as good statistically as Hugo. Look how many goal keepers were looking amazingly great on a short sample, just too fade away soon after? Diego Lopez, Bravo, Ochoa and Ospina, just to name a few. I wouldn't be against Gazza playing the odd league game next season but, we all know that's not how Poch rolls.

 

[AnotherSpursFan]

Still Hugo for me, but I like the way Gazzaniga is developing. Good confidence, great distribution and a real presence with his size and agility. Saw a couple of journalists say he made mistake for Kante’s goal the other night - thought that was very harsh after taking 2 deflections

if hugo made the same mistake, he'll be shot, all thats left of Hugo Lloris would be Ugo Loris