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Weird timing for this topic, given Paulo's howler against Chelski
Hugo Or Paulo? Is It Time To Pass The Mantle?
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BringBack_leGin
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Hugo. There is not one aspect of goalkeeper where Gazzaniga is currently better, and I like Gazzaniga a lot.
Yid-ol
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Distribution of the ball, especially long kicks.
BringBack_leGin
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Long is based on one match where he was invoked in two goals, which isn’t accounting for the fact that most of our players couldn’t do what Harry did in those circumstances. Short, never in a million years. What Hugo does may look awkward but he does it very successfully and usually when it wrong it’s becuse Jan and Toby have made poor decisions.
Yid-ol
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His long ball kicking is on more than one game.....
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Could you be more patronizing? My point was despite his leader attributes, he will be replaced once he starts to lose form and someone we have gets better than him. Hopefully it wont be for a few years but no one captain or not is irreplaceable.
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You are giving Hugo too much credit. There is no way that Hugo's distribution is better than Gazzaniga's.
Gazza's long ball starting play has been one of the his key features which was observed and commented on in previous games before those two recent goals.
Hugo doesnt look awkward with the short ball, he is awkward with it. Blaming Jan and Toby is taking the biscuit
Oh and the jury is out on him too IMO, lets see after a run of about 20 games or so in the PL before we start coming in our pants about him. Oh and oh.....Hugo lets that first goal in on Thursday night? Bedlam & calls for his head on a plate here on SC. Absolutely no doubt about it, that's how bad we are when we really get a taste for scaping
The thing is regarding Gazzaniga: I already have started coming in my pants about him. He's quite handsome you know.
TropicalYid
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Anyone who seriously thinks we should drop Hugo for Gazza is out of his mind.
When Hugo is finished at the club, we’ll buy another first choice keeper. I have no doubt about that.
Gazza is perfectly fine and done a good job when called upon so far. He’s not the long term number one for us though imo
AnotherSpursFan
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Goals conceded by Gazza: ok, not his fault
Goals concede by Lloris: 2 paragraphs of how he could have done better and comments about his distribution.
Its like having a mistress is it not, you like her so much that even if she had flatulence you compliment her for the quality of the sound and smell.
Goals concede by Lloris: 2 paragraphs of how he could have done better and comments about his distribution.
Its like having a mistress is it not, you like her so much that even if she had flatulence you compliment her for the quality of the sound and smell.
TheBlueRooster
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The problem is that Loris is our captain and Frances' captain yet makes mistake after mistake. He isn't a great catcher of the ball and his foot distributon is questionable. He made an embarrassing fuck up in the World Cup Final which was disguised by the fact that France won it.
I'm not thinking that Gazza should replace Loris but should get a run out on three or four games that we should win without a problem when we have our full strength outfield team.
ralvy
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Oh please, stop being so insecure, there was nothing patronizing about that post. You seem to be under the impression that Hugo's WC success and captancy only mean that he's got some leadership attributes, and I was merley pointing out that those things mean much more than that. They indicate that Hugo is indeed a very good and experienced player who has proven himself at the biggest stage in football, which means that it's going to take a lot more to replace him than a decent goalkeeper who's good at kicking long balls.
CoopsieDeadpool
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I agree. However, even if this one is deleted, another scapegoat thread with a different player will appear when we next lose a game.
SargeantMeatCurtains
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I'm sure it's already been discussed, but had Hugo conceded the first goal vs Chelsea and the first goal against Palace yesterday, he'd have been relentlessly slaughtered for it.
It always the same debate when it comes to distribution. Going from a statistical point of view, Lloris is the closest thing to Ederson. Closest to him in terms of pass success both from long and shorter passes. Closest to him in keeping calm under pressure and play out from the back even when opponents close him down. Which is what Poch wants his keepers to do.
"But they lead to us conceding!"
When? Give me five examples.
"Ehrm, can't really think of any, but sometimes when we play out from the back, the guy that gets the ball ends up giving away a throw in, and it makes me uncomfortable."
Pressure is what we want. We want teams to move up the field, play through them and create opportunities that way. Gazzaniga is more prone to hoof under pressure, even if he's naturally gotten calmer with more game time, Lloris is still superior when it comes to doing what Poch wants in terms of playing out from the back.
I really think it's down to perception. Lloris doesn't look slick on the ball, and you'd have a hard time imagining him managing ten keepy-uppies, but he is geuninely good.
"But they lead to us conceding!"
When? Give me five examples.
"Ehrm, can't really think of any, but sometimes when we play out from the back, the guy that gets the ball ends up giving away a throw in, and it makes me uncomfortable."
Pressure is what we want. We want teams to move up the field, play through them and create opportunities that way. Gazzaniga is more prone to hoof under pressure, even if he's naturally gotten calmer with more game time, Lloris is still superior when it comes to doing what Poch wants in terms of playing out from the back.
I really think it's down to perception. Lloris doesn't look slick on the ball, and you'd have a hard time imagining him managing ten keepy-uppies, but he is geuninely good.
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He doesn't make mistake after mistake. What actually happens is every goal we concede is forensically analysed and if there's even a faint whiff of blame to be attached, he will get it. Of course, he's made mistakes but nowhere near as bad as is made out on here, but we see that with all scapegoats on SC, it builds and builds and builds until there's a frenzy of hate because the poor scapegoat is so shit. Sissoko was one, Trippier is the latest and after him it'll be someone else. Fair criticism is one thing but the way this all works on here goes beyond that.
