I'm proud to have Pochettino

[whitesocks]

I'd honestly rather have gotten 50 points if it meant I had a clue what Pochettino is trying to do. At least then I'd be going into the summer thinking well if we get this player or that it'll improve his way of playing.
I'm baffled right now and have been all season. I assumed as the season progressed it would become clearer, it's actually been the opposite.

He has been saying what the plan/philosophy is all along, but it passes us by without comment, as we just think he hasn't the language to express himself.
"We will work hard. We must work harder."
That is it.

 

[fortworthspur]

is he even managing? we do the same thing every week with the same players (allowing for injury), and it isnt working. but he trots the same players and plan out every week. I cant tell you how sick I am of Mason, Nabil, and Ericksen in the middle. The one position we have options at is CM.

 

[Imnotacticalgenius]

Personally i see these lackluster performances as a precursor to a great Pre-Season. I think MoPo priority right now is to see and have a real feel of who are the players that will continue to grind it out for the shirt, even if the odds are much against the team (or when there is seemingly nothing to play for anymore). I also believe MoPo is also looking at some players (by giving them a last few chance) to stake a claim in the squad next season). This is the what i truly believe and i hope i am not wrong.

Guys, let us continue backing MoPo and see what the Summer and Pre-Season has in store for us. With new players in, i hope the fans and supporters will not judge too soon. Personally i hope to see MoPo be given the full tenure of his contract. The short changing, the last 10 years have not really made us become a top 3 team anyway and it is not so bad since Jol's 5th Position.....So unless Spurs for some reason became a headless bunch fighting to be safe from relegation, i would give time to MoPo and his team to see out his contract. I had enough of the short foresight and shortchanging that we continuously have. COYS!!!

 

[glacierSpurs]

Personally i see these lackluster performances as a precursor to a great Pre-Season. I think MoPo priority right now is to see and have a real feel of who are the players that will continue to grind it out for the shirt, even if the odds are much against the team (or when there is seemingly nothing to play for anymore). I also believe MoPo is also looking at some players (by giving them a last few chance) to stake a claim in the squad next season). This is the what i truly believe and i hope i am not wrong.

Guys, let us continue backing MoPo and see what the Summer and Pre-Season has in store for us. With new players in, i hope the fans and supporters will not judge too soon. Personally i hope to see MoPo be given the full tenure of his contract. The short changing, the last 10 years have not really made us become a top 3 team anyway and it is not so bad since Jol's 5th Position.....So unless Spurs for some reason became a headless bunch fighting to be safe from relegation, i would give time to MoPo and his team to see out his contract. I had enough of the short foresight and shortchanging that we continuously have. COYS!!!

there actually is a whole lot more to play for, even right till the match last night.. mathematically we could still be in a shout for UCL, but everywhere this acknowledgement seems to be silent until the match was over, for we know we couldn't perform to expectations at all.. before the Stoke game, I couldn't even take it how could every media reported only Utd and Liverpool were fighting for 4th with us not totally mentioned when we still have a chance.. I mean I know the percentage of chance, but if Poch thinks we have nothing to play for and not feel disrespected with such omissions, I am utterly speechless.. and come on, why give oneself such an easy ride and save oneself from the expectations from not able to get a top-4 finishing when we had one of the easiest, if not the easiest, run-in to the season end! we had everything to play for, even after Burnley draw, after AV defeat, after Soton draw, after ManC defeat..

those players being given chances were the same players over.. some players like Stambouli and Dembele should be given last few chances more so than others.. some players like Yedlin should be given a first few chances.. these players have a higher stake claim to be in the squad next season IF the regulars are too comfortable in the starting XI..

sorry mate, but I too wish to be as optimistic as you in Poch.. in all the above I said, I actually wish you could be right.. is just getting depressing...

 

[Jaffer99]

Sorry, but starting to loose faith in MP, we have a nearly a full season with him and apart from a few games, we have looked
very ordinary in most. We have the 5th best goals scored in the league, but the joint 4th worst for goals conceded, every good team or teams that would like to progress to a higher level always make sure the defence is solid first, we are a joke in that department and I don't think he actually works on it, I think his attitude is the same a Ossie, you score two, will we score three. For me, that doesn't work and unless he starts to work on not conceding goals, I think he will take us no futher that what we have done this year..

 

[Wheeler Dealer]

At least Ardiles teams tried to play some attractive football. Poch's teams are turgid and clueless.

 

[EastLondonYid]

At least Ardiles teams tried to play some attractive football. Poch's teams are turgid and clueless.

 

[nedley]

I really don't know what to think.

I'm prepared to give him another season although I have been left totally underwhelmed by his ability to manage; his tactics (or lack of) and his stubbornness have been a major worry.

But what's Levy's position on this? How will he back him in the summer?

Give him his own players? Back him with a warchest?

And what will happen if we have a bad start to the season and we still see very little development? The fans will, and maybe justifiably want him out.

God knows what our strategy will be.

 

[stemark44]

I think we have seen this movie before.
I think he has lost the players because they now have NO faith in his methods,I think he has over-worked them with his tough training regime,I think he has confused them with his team selections and he has ostracised almost half the squad in the short time he has been here.
Tactically he is inept,you simply cannot play the same system every single fucking game and not be found out.
His substitutions are baffling to say the least and even worse is the length of time it actually takes him to make a decision when everyone can see the problem almost immediately.
This summer he will try and bring in a few of his former players in the hope that he can find an answer to something that he hasn't a clue how to fix.
He will be gone by Christmas and we will be back to square one.

 

[shelfboy68]

I think we have seen this movie before.
I think he has lost the players because they now have NO faith in his methods,I think he has over-worked them with his tough training regime,I think he has confused them with his team selections and he has ostracised almost half the squad in the short time he has been here.
Tactically he is inept,you simply cannot play the same system every single fucking game and not be found out.
His substitutions are baffling to say the least and even worse is the length of time it actually takes him to make a decision when everyone can see the problem almost immediately.
This summer he will try and bring in a few of his former players in the hope that he can find an answer to something that he hasn't a clue how to fix.
He will be gone by Christmas and we will be back to square one.

I think its unlikely poch will be gone by christmas unless we were bottom three and even then time will be afforded to him.
The points you make about his tactical abilities are spot on as he doesnt seem to be getting any part of his ideas across no matter how small.
Cant wait until the end of the season as i have seen and had enough of this campaign to last a couple of years its been painful to view.
Come the summer i expect more average low budget ordinary signings to appear and lose our one world class player in Hugo from this poor side and join a serious one which can achieve his ambitions and deserves him.

 

[EastLondonYid]

Is Poch clueless?

If he is genuinely doing his utter best to win games atm and is honestly picking players and formations because he actually believes in them, then we are fucked with him and he is infact clueless and has lost the plot.

If however he has given up on most of them, totally given up on the season and is trying to convince Levy that the squad needs dismantling and that he needs a bigger kitty to buy the players he needs as this lot are useless...then we may have a chance with him and he is not so clueless after all.

i am praying its option 2 or we are in serious trouble.

 

[stemark44]

Is Poch clueless?

If he is genuinely doing his utter best to win games atm and is honestly picking players and formations because he actually believes in them, then we are fucked with him and he is infact clueless and has lost the plot.

If however he has given up on most of them, totally given up on the season and is trying to convince Levy that the squad needs dismantling and that he needs a bigger kitty to buy the players he needs as this lot are useless...then we may have a chance with him and he is not so clueless after all.

i am praying its option 2 or we are in serious trouble.

I understand why you would say that but for me its simply not a viable option.
If Poch and his guys have ANY sense at all then they must realise that losing games and making the team look utterly useless really isn't going to give them any leverage with Levy.
He WILL sack the lot of them.

 

[EastLondonYid]

I understand why you would say that but for me its simply not a viable option.
If Poch and his guys have ANY sense at all then they must realise that losing games and making the team look utterly useless really isn't going to give them any leverage with Levy.
He WILL sack the lot of them.

I put the question out there for debate..... Poch giving up makes more sense then playing 4 CH's , or bringing on Soldado when you are a man short and already getting outplayed in midfield, or playing the same system week in week out that plainly doesn't suit the players you have,...i could go on but i hope you get my point.
I honestly find it hard to believe any coach would try to lose a game, but i am finding hard to accept or understand some of the things he is doing, and that they are for the right reasons.

 

[eddiebailey]

The first season was never going to be easy, even if Pochettino seems to have made harder going of it than than necessary. For me he starts next season with a clean slate. And absolutely no excuses.

 

[ethanedwards]

You cant polish a turd!!
Unless you are new to this forum and have never seen any of the player comments then you should know that this isn't really the common consensus. How many of our players would play for Chelsea, Arsenal, Man City or Utd??

A turd really.
I am well aware there are a few hysterical posters who vent there frustrations usually on match days.
The squad is full of seasoned internationals and its full potential is not being realised, to describe them as shit is silly.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

So how about we actually just give Poch time like we said we would.

A wrong manager is a wrong manager regardless of how many wrong decisions we already have made.

 

[Everlasting Seconds]

It's painful to admit but if I look at the games we won this year, there is a lot we didn't deserve to including all those last minute points. I think we're 15 points higher than probably deserve to be on performance and that isn't good enough with this squad.

I agree with everything except for this. I think we have gathered approx. the least amount of points the squad, player for player, would be able to do. Which is even worse.

 

[eddiebailey]

The squad isn't the problem.

It is not the entire problem. Pretty much any half decent manager could have this lot finishing sixth; not many could succeed in taking them higher

 

[EastLondonYid]

It is not the entire problem. Pretty much any half decent manager could have this lot finishing sixth; not many could succeed in taking them higher

Our problems aren't so much our position in the league, for his first season 6th is fine, its the way we are playing.

I am willing to give him a chance when he gets his players in.

 

[stemark44]

A turd really.
I am well aware there are a few hysterical posters who vent there frustrations usually on match days.
The squad is full of seasoned internationals and its full potential is not being realised, to describe them as shit is silly.

OK,they may not all be shit but they are certainly all of a very similar level....steady players with a sprinkling of some skill here and there.
To thrive,they needed someone who could gel them as a unit,breed togetherness as a squad and motivate them to die for the team.