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McArchibald

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Martial will be quality when United get a decent manager. No doubting he has it all.

He does have everything - except the right employer at this crucial early stage of his career.
United are so disjointed and unbalanced that it'll take years of rebuilding to turn them round. And they'll break more than a few promising careers in the process...
 

danielneeds

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He does have everything - except the right employer at this crucial early stage of his career.
United are so disjointed and unbalanced that it'll take years of rebuilding to turn them round. And they'll break more than a few promising careers in the process...
Not sure I agree with that at all. They're in absolute crisis and they're 5th, five points behind us who are flying high.

De Gea, Smalling, Schneiderlin, Rooney, Martial is a great spine to build around, and there is plenty more to come from the likes of Shaw, Depay and others.

It really wouldn't take a good manager long to sort it out, particularly with their spending power. They need to get rid of Woodward though, or shift him along to purely commercial stuff and bring in a technical director for footballing strategy.

Remember just 18 months ago we had Sherwood in charge, and a bunch of transfer "flops" and no discernible strategy at the club...
 

McArchibald

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Not sure I agree with that at all. They're in absolute crisis and they're 5th, five points behind us who are flying high.

De Gea, Smalling, Schneiderlin, Rooney, Martial is a great spine to build around, and there is plenty more to come from the likes of Shaw, Depay and others.

It really wouldn't take a good manager long to sort it out, particularly with their spending power. They need to get rid of Woodward though, or shift him along to purely commercial stuff and bring in a technical director for footballing strategy.

Remember just 18 months ago we had Sherwood in charge, and a bunch of transfer "flops" and no discernible strategy at the club...

I honestly think we are underachieving ourselves... we should have had 6-8 points more than we do now.

And United have an aeging Rooney and De Gea who may well leave. It could well get worse before it gets better. I can see them doing a Liverpool and go on a 20 year quest for the next title.
On the other hand, the do have the clout to bring in Christiano Ronaldo or any other superstar. So its hard to call...
 

danielneeds

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I honestly think we are underachieving ourselves... we should have had 6-8 points more than we do now.

And United have an aeging Rooney and De Gea who may well leave. It could well get worse before it gets better. I can see them doing a Liverpool and go on a 20 year quest for the next title.
On the other hand, the do have the clout to bring in Christiano Ronaldo or any other superstar. So its hard to call...
I severely doubt it will be 20 years. The Liverpool decline just happened at the worst time for them - when the PL started to boom.

Although if Pep stays at City more than his customary 3-4 years it could be a bit of a wait.
 

Sweech

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Not sure I agree with that at all. They're in absolute crisis and they're 5th, five points behind us who are flying high.

De Gea, Smalling, Schneiderlin, Rooney, Martial is a great spine to build around, and there is plenty more to come from the likes of Shaw, Depay and others.

It really wouldn't take a good manager long to sort it out, particularly with their spending power. They need to get rid of Woodward though, or shift him along to purely commercial stuff and bring in a technical director for footballing strategy.

Remember just 18 months ago we had Sherwood in charge, and a bunch of transfer "flops" and no discernible strategy at the club...
Still a tough call, De Gea could very well leave, although Real's transfer ban would likely delay this, but if Real file an appeal and their ban is postponed to the winter and 2017 summer he's as good as gone.

Rooney has been declining for quite awhile now and it's not just from LVG either.

Martial looks good dribbling, but he's never had much end product here or in France although I'd put faith in his youth and think he can find end product.

Depay needs coaching, everyone thought that would be LVG as they had a father son relationship and looked to get on well in the national team, so whether the new coach can do it is a mystery.
 

danielneeds

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Still a tough call, De Gea could very well leave, although Real's transfer ban would likely delay this, but if Real file an appeal and their ban is postponed to the winter and 2017 summer he's as good as gone.

Rooney has been declining for quite awhile now and it's not just from LVG either.

Martial looks good dribbling, but he's never had much end product here or in France although I'd put faith in his youth and think he can find end product.

Depay needs coaching, everyone thought that would be LVG as they had a father son relationship and looked to get on well in the national team, so whether the new coach can do it is a mystery.
If they lose de Gea, they'll just sign Butland who's outstanding.

Rooney needs to be given a free role in the hole, and he can still be a very effective player. His instinctual game just doesn't suit LVG's style at all.

It's all moot anyway. Who knows what will happen. I'm just saying they still have a lot of talent and money, and we'd do well not to crow too much at the moment, as we
know how quickly can change in football.
 
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