Injury Updates

[stevenurse]

Just saw someone on the infinite truth that is twitter say he's missed 342 and counting, active season days through injury or being awol.

Difficult position to be in and I'm not hot on employment law so I wouldn't have a clue of the legal issues around it but presumably we have a duty to care for our employee as long as it's required (which while he's still an employee of spurs is 100% the correct thing to do). But what about selling him? What are the rules there? Sad as when we go to sell him we'll probably end up with peanuts, especially as his contract is running down.

 

[Cinemattis]

I think everyone understands this is not just as simple as a normal injury. It's just a case of not making assumptions on what is the problem without knowing the facts.

A bit optimistic is it not: "everybody understands"?

 

[Hoddle_Ledge]

Was watching a few you tube compilations the other day, Lamela was involved in so many important goals!

Whatever's going on he's a big loss, for me anyway.

 

[Insomnia]

no news of H or Rosey then?

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

I like how Lamela gets sympathy and the benefit of the doubt whereas Adebeyor, who was a bit on the crazy side was despised by most.

 

[millsey]

I like how Lamela gets sympathy and the benefit of the doubt whereas Adebeyor, who was a bit on the crazy side was despised by most.

You earn respect by what you have done in the past

 

[Shadydan]

I like how Lamela gets sympathy and the benefit of the doubt whereas Adebeyor, who was a bit on the crazy side was despised by most.

lol what kind of comparison is this?

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

lol what kind of comparison is this?

Two Tottenham players go MIA.

One gets love.
One gets hate.

Adebeyor did more for us in his first season than Lamela has in his Spurs career so dont give me any bollocks about him not being important.

 

[Shadydan]

Two Tottenham players go MIA.

One gets love.
One gets hate.

Adebeyor did more for us in his first season than Lamela has in his Spurs career so dont give me any bollocks about him not being important.

Maybe because the former was a lazy, disruptive nuisance who has on more than one occasion continually had his professionalism questioned, and also if you think Lamela's been getting sympathy, you must have missed all of those people making up drug stories and poking fun at him?

 

[yankspurs]

Two Tottenham players go MIA.

One gets love.
One gets hate.

Adebeyor did more for us in his first season than Lamela has in his Spurs career so dont give me any bollocks about him not being important.

If you think Lamela is getting sympathy, I shudder to think of what you'd call not sympathizing

 

[jurgen]

Funny enough, he 'liked ' kyle walkers post on insta about an hour ago.

So he's alive

Shame that by now he could just be a brain in a jar wired up to a finger in order to do that , and the brain bit is pushing it with Insta..

More likely than some of the other 'theories.'

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Maybe because the former was a lazy, disruptive nuisance who has on more than one occasion continually had his professionalism questioned, and also if you think Lamela's been getting sympathy, you must have missed all of those people making up drug stories and poking fun at him?

How do YOU know Lamela isn't a lazy nuisance that's been ostracized from the squad?
Nothing different from spurs then there was when Adebeyor went missing for months.

 

[Shadydan]

How do YOU know Lamela isn't a lazy nuisance that's been ostracized from the squad?
Nothing different from spurs then there was when Adebeyor went missing for months.

Why would Lamela suddenly be a lazy nuisance when there's been nothing previously in his time at Spurs that has suggested that to be the case? Compare that to Adebayor who has been accused of downing tools on more than one occasion...And when exactly did Ade go missing for months, you're going to have to remind me?

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

Why would Lamela suddenly be a lazy nuisance when there's been nothing previously in his time at Spurs that has suggested that to be the case? Compare that to Adebayor who has been accused of downing tools on more than one occasion...And when exactly did Ade go missing for months, you're going to have to remind me?

Adebeyor had to start being difficult somewhere. Lamela is still young.
No one from tottenham officially accused adebeyor of anything. In much the same way nothing of value has actually been said about Lamela.
The injury is bs though. He's finished at Spurs.

 

[Shadydan]

Adebeyor had to start being difficult somewhere. Lamela is still young.
No one from tottenham officially accused adebeyor of anything. In much the same way nothing of value has actually been said about Lamela.
The injury is bs though. He's finished at Spurs.

So you're accusing Lamela of being difficult just to push your own agenda even though there's no evidence whatsoever that is the case...No one's going to come out and say anything officially from Tottenham accusing Ade of being disruptive but there's no smoke without fire and there were too many stories from media, ITK, fans or his previous clubs etc.. and if you have a shred of common sense you'd realise that he was a bad egg with a bad rep no matter how much you try and deny it, the evidence is overwhelming... By the way If you're going down the official route then no-one has come out and said anything about Lamela 'officially'.

You're comparing apples and pears...I do agree that he's probably played his last game for Spurs though

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

So you're accusing Lamela of being difficult just to push your own agenda even though there's no evidence whatsoever that is the case...No one's going to come out and say anything officially from Tottenham accusing Ade of being disruptive but there's no smoke without fire and there were too many stories from media, ITK, fans or his previous clubs etc.. and if you have a shred of common sense you'd realise that he was a bad egg with a bad rep no matter how much you try and deny it, the evidence is overwhelming... By the way If you're going down the official route then no-one has come out and said anything about Lamela 'officially'.

You're comparing apples and pears...I do agree that he's probably played his last game for Spurs though

Im not accusing Lamela of anything.
I'm asking the questions that a lot of people seem to want to avoid.

Why is it ok for him to miss 342 days of football with an unspecified injury, no comment from him, barely anything from the club but it's not ok for the same thing when Adebeyor did it?

There was no comment from Tottenham throughout that saga other than he's away for personal reasons etc.

I'll pay SC £20 if Lamela is at Spurs beyond the expiration of his current contract. IE he's offered a new one, signs it etc.
He's finished.

 

[Shadydan]

Im not accusing Lamela of anything.
I'm asking the questions that a lot of people seem to want to avoid.

Why is it ok for him to miss 342 days of football with an unspecified injury, no comment from him, barely anything from the club but it's not ok for the same thing when Adebeyor did it?

There was no comment from Tottenham throughout that saga other than he's away for personal reasons etc.

I'll pay SC £20 if Lamela is at Spurs beyond the expiration of his current contract. IE he's offered a new one, signs it etc.
He's finished.

I already answered the question...

Maybe because the former was a lazy, disruptive nuisance who has on more than one occasion continually had his professionalism questioned,

 

[Johnny J]

Just saw someone on the infinite truth that is twitter say he's missed 342 and counting, active season days through injury or being awol.

Difficult position to be in and I'm not hot on employment law so I wouldn't have a clue of the legal issues around it but presumably we have a duty to care for our employee as long as it's required (which while he's still an employee of spurs is 100% the correct thing to do). But what about selling him? What are the rules there? Sad as when we go to sell him we'll probably end up with peanuts, especially as his contract is running down.

As an employment lawyer I can tell you that you're absolutely right.

All employees (regardless of their sector) owe all their employees (regardless of how much they earn or how high-profile they are) a duty of care in several regards. This includes a basic duty of confidentiality.

Employers also have obligations under the Data Protection Act regarding the safeguarding/use of personal and sensitive personal data. Medical information falls squarely under the definition of sensitive personal data.

All people, including employees and Lamela, have rights under the Human Rights Act, derived from the European Convention on Human Rights. These rights include a right to privacy.

Spurs are entirely in their rights not to disseminate, to the general public, information about any player's health or wellbeing. Moreover, the club might well be in breach of various laws should they do so without proper consent and/or in an ill-considered (not a legal term) manner.

That's the basic legal position regarding the public. Everything else is just fans wanting to know what's going on. You can't blame them for that, but that's only because most of the time clubs put out basic info (in the right manner, and with consent) about "normal"/typical injuries. But fans need to understand that they don't have a right to this information.

Finally, if an employee has a mental health issue, then it is even more important to safeguard their interests. I'm not speculating on what is happening with Lamela. But an example of this is the recent case of the Team Sky cyclist, whom the team felt was essentially at risk of suicide. The team chose not to publicise anything, including reporting the situation to the anti-doping authorities.

(The above does not take account of legal obligations a club may owe to disclose certain information to relevant authorities etc. But that's not relevant to this discussion.)

Sorry for the long post!

 

[Trix]

Two Tottenham players go MIA.

One gets love.
One gets hate.

Adebeyor did more for us in his first season than Lamela has in his Spurs career so dont give me any bollocks about him not being important.

What a crock of shite!

 

[TottenhamMattSpur]

What a crock of shite!

Is that a cryptic?
Is it really IBS keeping Lamela out?
Dodgy lasagne?