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Mr Pink

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in the case of Sandro, I'm sure Levy/Harry made the decision on the basis of positive scouting reports....thats obvious.
 

brett.spurs

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Based on that then - Fergie cant take credit for Chicarito, I doubt Wenger went to Luton to watch Wilshere before taking him, i also doubt he went to watch Barca's youth side to get fabregas..........

Of course the scout was the one who identified the player - thats their job isnt it????????????? Redknapp would then have looked at the player (maybe videos) discussed it with the scouts and then made a decision. Once he decided he wanted the player Levy would then have done all the contract stuff. I am convinced you dont have a clue how football works at times? Do you think managers go and watch every player, do the contract negotiations and just ask the chairman to sign the cheques?? :bang:

Ofcourse he'll have some say, but the driving force behind those players was Levy.

Of our signings since Harry took over;

Defoe - Harry
Palacios - Harry
Cudicini - Harry
Chimbonda - Harry
Keane - Harry
Walker - Levy
Naughton - Levy
Crouch - Harry
Bassong - Harry
Kranjcar - Harry
Gudjohnson - Harry
Kaboul - Harry
Sandro - Levy
Pletikosa - Harry
VDV - split
Gallas - Harry
Khumalo - Harry
Pienaar - Harry
Freidel - Harry

Harry's signings average age = 28.7
Levy's signings average age = 19.6

I didn't count VDV as I see that as a split effort and one that fell into our laps.
 

Graysonti

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Must admit, Arry short te thinking worries me.

Think we are okay re money cos of Levy though
 

Ndot17

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Sky Sports Darren Lewis has just confirmed that he had brief with Spurs and that the Club insist that Joe "alien head" Cole is definitely not on their agenda..
 

Mr Pink

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Sky Sports Darren Lewis has just confirmed that he had brief with Spurs and that the Club insist that Joe "alien head" Cole is definitely not on their agenda..

does he not work for the Mirror?

you mean he was on SSN saying that?
 

Pringle

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btw how did you get an average of 19.6 for levy when:
Walker was 19 years and 2 months
Naughton was 20 years 8 months
Sandro was 21 years 0 months
VDV was 27 years 7 months

??
 

Pringle

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why though? You have said many times previously that he was a Levy signing? Or are you leaving him out because he changes your stat?

Quite funny tbh!

oh and you never explained how you know levy signed naughton/walker - still awaiting that one?
 

Ndot17

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Confirmed it on his Twitter mate and yeah think does write for the mirror i just hope its true
 

StartingPrice

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Brett, Good Pard'Ner, seriously, for the sake of your health I think you need to take a break for a month or so and avoid all discussion of THFC & transfers...I fear you may blow a gasket:hump:
 

SpursSince1980

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i somehow doubt that harry's strategy for getting us into the CL next year is signing over-the-hill players... the cheeky chappy may be guilty of many things, but he's fairly intelligent when it comes to strategy regarding playing resources. i think our record under his guidance strongly indicates that he knows what he's doing.
 

brett.spurs

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why though? You have said many times previously that he was a Levy signing? Or are you leaving him out because he changes your stat?

Quite funny tbh!

oh and you never explained how you know levy signed naughton/walker - still awaiting that one?

I think Harry had him on his list but we were quoted too much for him so we left it, then on the last couple of days Levy asked again and got it down to £8m and Harry said yeah, so it was a split venture but ultimately one that fell into our lap.

As for Walker and Naughton, why would Harry spend £8m on a couple of right back kids that might be good in 5 years time? That was Levy's work.
 

C0YS

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Ofcourse he'll have some say, but the driving force behind those players was Levy.

Of our signings since Harry took over;

Defoe - Harry
Palacios - Harry
Cudicini - Harry
Chimbonda - Harry
Keane - Harry
Walker - Levy
Naughton - Levy
Crouch - Harry
Bassong - Harry
Kranjcar - Harry
Gudjohnson - Harry
Kaboul - Harry
Sandro - Levy
Pletikosa - Harry
VDV - split
Gallas - Harry
Khumalo - Harry
Pienaar - Harry
Freidel - Harry

Harry's signings average age = 28.7
Levy's signings average age = 19.6

I didn't count VDV as I see that as a split effort and one that fell into our laps.

Pretty sure Sandro was scouted out and then signed by 'Arry based on recommendation if he said "I don't want him" then I doubt he would of been signed. Only the two Kyles seemed like a move 'Arry was indifferent to and pushed by Levy. But having said that the whole way transfers work is not even close to being that simple.
 

dvdhopeful

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I haven't seen your post, what was it?



Common sense.

Before Sandro's 1st game, Harry even said "Sandro better be good, or Ian Broomfield's getting the sack" obviously in a jokey banter way but the underlying truth is that it's not Harry's signing. Why would he buy an unproven 21 yr old from the other side of the world? He knows he's not going to be here in Sandro's peak years so why would he take £6m out of his transfer budget? Answer is, he didn't. Levy aims to keep young players ticking over while Harry buys the 30yr olds(40yr olds even)

The same goes for Leandro if he signs, he'll be Levy's signing on our scuts recommendation and Harry buys Drogba - which I'd be in favour of by the way.

The scouts job is to find talent, the manager's job is to decide if we need that particular individual and give the go ahead for a bid to be lodged. In this particular case, Broomfield may have been particularly vociferous in wanting to sign Sandro, to say Harry had little or nothing to do with it is making an enormous leap - something you cannot possibly know but will not stop you, obviously.

So if Leandro is signed, that has nothing to do with Harry? Let us ignore the part where you again have not a clue if that is true and skip to the part where you claim you can make that comment based upon 'common sense'. Scout makes report, gives to Harry, Harry reviews report, gives go ahead to Levy, Levy makes an offer...isn't that how every manager works? Is that not common sense? Or does it make more sense that anyone under 30, nothing to do with Harry, everyone over 30, all Harry. To call that 'common sense' makes no sense.
 

Pringle

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I think Harry had him on his list but we were quoted too much for him so we left it, then on the last couple of days Levy asked again and got it down to £8m and Harry said yeah, so it was a split venture but ultimately one that fell into our lap.

As for Walker and Naughton, why would Harry spend £8m on a couple of right back kids that might be good in 5 years time? That was Levy's work.

2 years on 1 of them is in the england squad...........

Good to see you have no evidence whatsoever to suggest that either were anything other than signings from Harry.

I think thats enough for me to end my contribution in this rubbish thread. What i will say is - you shouldnt take ITK too seriously like you have.

Look forward to September 1st and reminding you to pay £50 towards the upkeep of the site!

Have a good evening all :grin:
 

Matt C

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But he hasn't filled the squad with players in their 30's :)

Look at Arsenal, they've not been able to win anything since they got rid of their older players, we have loads of brilliant players under or around 25 who sometimes lack the required composure to see out games. If Harry brings in a few players over 30 then I think we have a better chance of a trophy next year, there just seems to be a load of panic over nothing.

I was playing devils advocate, apart from Friedel none of the old men linked have signed and may well not.

I agree that there needs to be a couple of experienced hands but they need to be at the peak of their game (Parker/Drogba) and not injury prone (Cole/Rio) or distinctly average (Neville/Friedel)
 

danielneeds

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I think Harry had him on his list but we were quoted too much for him so we left it, then on the last couple of days Levy asked again and got it down to £8m and Harry said yeah, so it was a split venture but ultimately one that fell into our lap.

As for Walker and Naughton, why would Harry spend £8m on a couple of right back kids that might be good in 5 years time? That was Levy's work.

You are just making assumptions again thought, infact most of your Harry thesis is based on wild assumptions.

It could be just as feasible that Levy said to Harry whilst appointing him, "look I know you favour experienced players, and I am not going to tell you who to sign, but I want you to identify a couple of young players with resale value each summer that we can add to the squad as part of keeping it within the PL squad rules..."
 

bryanabutler

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We need experienced players, they're the ones who will pick us up more points against the lower teams. This thread is stupid.

You will not see the top 5 teams, IE City, United,Chelsea, Arse, and yes L/Pool, buy any of the players we are linked with
 
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