What's new

I've no idea why I've slipped out of team but I won't give up - Dembele

Mullers

Unknown member
Jan 4, 2006
25,914
16,413
You slipped out of the team because you were shite. You cost 15 million and you offer fuck all attack wise that's why Mason took your place.

You're welcome.
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2005
16,047
18,013
You see, this is interesting because other players have said poch has one-to-one meetings with them and there is an open door policy and players are free to walk through it and speak to poch.

It's international time and dembele is trying to muddy the water.

You're not getting picked because you're not playing well enough, moosey. The water is still crystal clear to me.




Because every other player is tearing it up right now i guess?

We have more movement, strength and creativity across the pitch and going forward with him playing than with that tit Capoue.

But hold on a mo, let's just keep picking the same two players in front of the back four because it's working swimmingly at the moment.
 

philip

Well-Known Member
Jan 4, 2009
1,349
2,494
With his raw strength and ridiculous dribbling abilities. Dembele should be running games with ease like Yaya Toure.


maybe s spell out will wake up up.

And if he had more drive, passed forward and released the ball quicker, he would be in first team.
 

CosmicHotspur

Better a wag than a WAG
Aug 14, 2006
51,069
22,383
He is undoubtedly talented but at present there's a lack of communication and understanding between a lot of the players and I think this has affected him. It takes time and he needs to be allowed playing time to get that missing rapport back.

It was there at one time and when it is, he is brilliant.
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
45,893
68,893
Because every other player is tearing it up right now i guess?

We have more movement, strength and creativity across the pitch and going forward with him playing than with that tit Capoue.

But hold on a mo, let's just keep picking the same two players in front of the back four because it's working swimmingly at the moment.
Overall capoue is more effective in a DM2 than dembele. Capoue has had a few very good games, not sure why people are willingly ignoring them actign like he's been shite all season.
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2005
16,047
18,013
You slipped out of the team because you were shite. You cost 15 million and you offer fuck all attack wise that's why Mason took your place.

You're welcome.


If cost were a factor you could go through the whole team with that assumption. He is one of our most creative midfielders and will play as well as those around him, and certainly offers more than Capoue from what i have seen this season so far.
 

Gassin's finest

C'est diabolique
May 12, 2010
37,531
88,249
Doesn't release the ball anywhere near fast enough to keep it alive in the centre of the pitch. Would probably be far better in a hook (the classic 10) role, where he can use his strength and close control to more creative effect.

Maybe go talk to the manager before talking to the press first though next time, eh?
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2005
16,047
18,013
Overall capoue is more effective in a DM2 than dembele. Capoue has had a few very good games, not sure why people are willingly ignoring them actign like he's been shite all season.


Fourteen points from twelve games would suggest that picking the same (or almost the same) team is well, pointless.

In Capoue's position having a "few good games" is perhaps why we are capitulating after taking a lead in a game, or folding like a pack of cards when teams attack. Stoke's opener on Sunday was a perfect example. But, lets just continue rolling out the same old, same old, because eventually it will work. After all the likes of WBA, Stoke, Newcastle cannot keep getting lucky now can they?
 

Mullers

Unknown member
Jan 4, 2006
25,914
16,413
If cost were a factor you could go through the whole team with that assumption. He is one of our most creative midfielders and will play as well as those around him, and certainly offers more than Capoue from what i have seen this season so far.
That's not really saying much I would hope he offers more than Capoue too, seeing as he supposed to be a DM.
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2005
16,047
18,013
That's not really saying much I would hope he offers more than Capoue too, seeing as he supposed to be a DM.

He can defend as well as Capoue, and with Mason would at least provide a better service to the four in front of them. In the Newcastle game once Pardew had Mason marked out of the game in the second half we offered nothing else going forward. At Villa ( a terrible fucking side) it was almost the same story. We offer zero going forward and create little, and this won't really change until the team lineup does.
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
45,893
68,893
Fourteen points from twelve games would suggest that picking the same (or almost the same) team is well, pointless.

In Capoue's position having a "few good games" is perhaps why we are capitulating after taking a lead in a game, or folding like a pack of cards when teams attack. Stoke's opener on Sunday was a perfect example. But, lets just continue rolling out the same old, same old, because eventually it will work. After all the likes of WBA, Stoke, Newcastle cannot keep getting lucky now can they?
Do you think Demebele is more effective than capoue in DM2?
 

LexingtonSpurs

Well-Known Member
Aug 27, 2013
13,456
39,042
I am not in training sessions but I doubt players, including Dembele, do not understand that Pochettino is trying to play uptempo quick passes. Dembele is the antithesis of quick passing.
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2005
16,047
18,013
Do you think Demebele is more effective than capoue in DM2?


No worse, and offers more when he has the ball. I'd like to see something different from that position, anything that would change the dire situation that we find ourselves in. And it is dire, make no mistake.
 

thinktank

Hmmm...
Sep 28, 2004
45,893
68,893
No worse, and offers more when he has the ball. I'd like to see something different from that position, anything that would change the dire situation that we find ourselves in. And it is dire, make no mistake.

A transfer window.
 

Mullers

Unknown member
Jan 4, 2006
25,914
16,413
He can defend as well as Capoue, and with Mason would at least provide a better service to the four in front of them. In the Newcastle game once Pardew had Mason marked out of the game in the second half we offered nothing else going forward. At Villa ( a terrible fucking side) it was almost the same story. We offer zero going forward and create little, and this won't really change until the team lineup does.
But I'm not talking his defensive ability it's his attacking which is the problem, This is third season with us and he's just not good enough.
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2005
16,047
18,013
I am not in training sessions but I doubt players, including Dembele, do not understand that Pochettino is trying to play uptempo quick passes. Dembele is the antithesis of quick passing.


Because it's working so well isn't it? I see no "uptempo quick passing" just Ray Wilkinsesque side to side laboured passing, where we seem to give the opposition just enough time to get back before we pass the ball to Naughton or Rose. Thirty three times that happened on Sunday. It would have been more i guess but for the sending off.
 
Last edited:

E17yid

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2013
17,044
30,690
A transfer window.

So basically, when we were all excited about Poch working with our existing group of players and improving them, like he did at Southamton, what we really meant was let's totally change the squad as he can't work with them.

No doubt he needs backing but personally speaking I had a slight preference for Poch over FDB for the above reason, now we know he's not the magician we thought we have to let go of half our squad.

What do we do if we sign 4 or 5 of his top targets and it doesn't work out? We're proper fucked then, surely?
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2005
16,047
18,013
A transfer window.


Not kicking you in the nuts on that one but.........

Because that has always worked in the past hasn't it. That magical Saha moment is always a wonder to behold. That last minute Pav signing or someone that Baldini finds down a backstreet in Bogota.










Always works.
 

Gaz_Gammon

Well-Known Member
Apr 16, 2005
16,047
18,013
So basically, when we were all excited about Poch working with our existing group of players and improving them, like he did at Southamton, what we really meant was let's totally change the squad as he can't work with them.

No doubt he needs backing but personally speaking I had a slight preference for Poch over FDB for the above reason, now we know he's not the magician we thought we have to let go of half our squad.

What do we do if we sign 4 or 5 of his top targets and it doesn't work out? We're proper fucked then, surely?


According to quotes attributed to him when he took over he thought the squad was (translated) "super, smashing, great"?

All of a sudden the players ain't good enough and the pitch is way too small for crab football to be played.
 

E17yid

Well-Known Member
Jan 21, 2013
17,044
30,690
According to quotes attributed to him when he took over he thought the squad was (translated) "super, smashing, great"?

All of a sudden the players ain't good enough and the pitch is way too small for crab football to be played.

To be honest, I am a bit miffed, I would have thought his remit was "work with and improve the players we signed last summer"

Obviously he's not keen on that after a few months.

Meh, don't know why I bother buying into the BS. All managers will want players they know. Fuck me, Davies was meant to be his number 1 target for LB wasn't he yet he doesn't play him.
 
Top